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MattR
2005-12-28, 09:44 PM
Date Event Location
APRIL
1 Solo2 School Stead
2 Solo 2 Test-n-Tune Stead
8 Solo 2 Event #1 Stead
9 Solo 2 Event #2 Stead
29 Club Trials #1 Reno Fernley

MAY
13 Solo 2 Event #3 Stead
14 Solo 2 Event #4 Stead
27 Solo 2 Event #5 Hawthorne
28 Solo 2 Event #6 Hawthorne

JUNE
10 Club Trial #3 Lovelock
11 Club Trial #3 Lovelock
24 Solo 2 Event #7 Stead
25 Solo 2 Event #8 Stead

JULY
15 Solo 2 Event #9 Stead
16 Solo 2 Event #10 Stead
22 Club Trials #4 Reno Fernley
23 Club Trials #4 Reno Fernley

AUG
? Solo 2 Event #11 ????
? Solo 2 Event #12 ????

SEPT
9 Solo 2 Event #13 Lovelock
10 Solo 2 Event #14 Lovelock
16 Club Trial (Championship) Reno Fernley
17 Club Trial (Championship) Reno Fernley

OCT
7 Solo 2 Event #15 Stead
8 Solo 2 Event #16 Stead

NOV
4 Awards banquet (TBA)

dknv
2005-12-28, 10:06 PM
So, no more east/west matchup with Idaho, huh?

Divisional? (June 24/25?)

MattR
2005-12-28, 10:09 PM
So, no more east/west matchup with Idaho, huh?

Divisional? (June 24/25?)
No, No more Winnemucca Challenge, the airport wants a large site deposit now, and it's just not worth it.

Also, we have yet to decide on the divisional. We will put it to vote at the Wed Club meeting. As of right now, it looks like there will be no divisional, but I think Dave D is still pushing to get it on the schedule. IF we do decide to have a divisional, it will indeed be that weekend of June 24-25.

dknv
2005-12-28, 10:16 PM
No, No more Winnemucca Challenge, the airport wants a large site deposit now, and it's just not worth it.

Also, we have yet to decide on the divisional. We will put it to vote at the Wed Club meeting. As of right now, it looks like there will be no divisional, but I think Dave D is still pushing to get it on the schedule. IF we do decide to have a divisional, it will indeed be that weekend of June 24-25.Same weekend as nascar at infineon. Again. :(

sperry
2005-12-28, 10:21 PM
Same weekend as nascar at infineon. Again. :(
You mean "Same weekend as Grand Prix du Canada". Which is fine for me, 'cause now I got a great excuse to miss the Divisional, if we happen to have one that weekend.

dknv
2005-12-28, 10:23 PM
You mean "Same weekend as Grand Prix du Canada". Which is fine for me, 'cause now I got a great excuse to miss the Divisional, if we happen to have one that weekend.I think directors and officers are required to be there. :lol:

MattR
2005-12-28, 10:25 PM
I think directors and officers are required to be there. :lol:


Well, 2 directors will be in Montreal!

Dean
2005-12-29, 07:39 AM
I'll be there to vote against the divisional. Until the division can put together a solid program that adds value, it is way to much effort for to little reward i nmy mind.

I'd much rather have a normal 10 or so run casual weekend than a 6 run bust my ass weekend with a side of extra BS.

Nick Koan
2005-12-29, 08:10 AM
I don't think I could have said it better myself Dean.

dknv
2005-12-29, 08:44 AM
Re: divisional, I like the idea of having a number of out-of-region high caliber drivers who come here as opposed to traveling somewhere else to drive with them at the same event; but I didn't necessarily like the fact that it was considered two of our points events, and diluted the distribution of points. (Same thing goes for N/S challenge in Hawthorne as well as the now-defunct Winnemucca challenge.)

And Dean, what was your experience about the extra side of BS? Yes, it was a ton of work, is that your definition of bs?

MikeK
2005-12-29, 08:49 AM
I vote for no divisional!! Three runs, on what was easily the crappiest track we had all year, along with all the extra paperwork and hassle, and having to be there all day ... for 1:30 on track? No!

Re: divisional, I like the idea of having a number of out-of-region high caliber drivers who come here as opposed to traveling somewhere else to drive with them at the same event

pffftt! They were all slow! :P

Dean
2005-12-29, 08:56 AM
And Dean, what was your experience about the extra side of BS? Yes, it was a ton of work, is that your definition of bs?No. I can clearly define BS; dealing with Kattie, as well as the additional T&S headaches.

There is nothing in the rules saying you can't run 5 runs, but Kattie won't let us. Here claim is you don't get 5 runs at a tour, or nationals. BFD! This is not those events. She does none of the prep work and then swoops in the day of the event and tells everybody what they should be doing, and why what they are doing is wrong. I won't go into the T&S crap, but lets just say there is a bunch.

Also, I would be surprised if anybody who experiences last year's fiasco of a total of six 30 second runs is likley to drive from anywhere, much less Reno for such an event with gas prices where they are likely to be.

dknv
2005-12-29, 09:12 AM
There is nothing in the rules saying you can't run 5 runs, but Kattie won't let us. Here claim is you don't get 5 runs at a tour, or nationals. BFD! This is not those events. She does none of the prep work and then swoops in the day of the event and tells everybody what they should be doing, and why what they are doing is wrong. I won't go into the T&S crap, but lets just say there is a bunch.

Also, I would be surprised if anybody who experiences last year's fiasco of a total of six 30 second runs is likley to drive from anywhere, much less Reno for such an event with gas prices where they are likely to be.You mean, that there's nothing in the rules for allowing 5 runs, (although only the first 3 count), right? I must be losing my mind, didn't we have fun runs on Sat.

But as steward, that's her role (make sure everybody's doing it 'right' according to the rulebook, because the out of region drivers for the most part expect things to be run by the book) -- sorry it affected you as bs.

But you reminded me of the other issue that's been discussed, that the divisional, as a series of Norpac events, doesn't provide the right incentives to get the participation that a divisional deserves.

MattR
2005-12-29, 09:12 AM
No. I can clearly define BS; dealing with Kattie, as well as the additional T&S headaches.




EXACTLY! That lady creates stress and conflict.

dknv
2005-12-29, 09:14 AM
pffftt! They were all slow! :PDidn't some out of town mini cooper take pax both days? :(

MattR
2005-12-29, 09:16 AM
But you reminded me of the other issue that's been discussed, that the divisional, as a series of Norpac events, doesn't provide the right incentives to get the participation that a divisional deserves.


At the upcoming NORPAC convention, the direction of a Divisional series will be discussed at length. I agree with the stance Dean has had all along...If there's no incentive, or organized series, then the events will fail. There is too much effort in both putting on the event, and attending them from a distance. I think given the state of the Divisional series (non-existant for the most-part) we should at least take a year off from hosting a divisional while the series is built.

dknv
2005-12-29, 09:21 AM
At the upcoming NORPAC convention, the direction of a Divisional series will be discussed at length.

Good. Are you going to attend that discussion (Mr. Director)?

I agree with the stance Dean has had all along...If there's no incentive, or organized series, then the events will fail. There is too much effort in both putting on the event, and attending them from a distance. I think given the state of the Divisional series (non-existant for the most-part) we should at least take a year off from hosting a divisional while the series is built.The other troubling part of a divisional series, is that the two other major west coast events that are (were) part of it were National Tours. In NT's, you can also race for contingency winnings, cash or tire allowances, something not available here.

Dean
2005-12-29, 09:26 AM
You mean, that there's nothing in the rules for allowing 5 runs, (although only the first 3 count), right? I must be losing my mind, didn't we have fun runs on Sat.

But as steward, that's her role (make sure everybody's doing it 'right' according to the rulebook, because the out of region drivers for the most part expect things to be run by the book) -- sorry it affected you as bs.

But you reminded me of the other issue that's been discussed, that the divisional, as a series of Norpac events, doesn't provide the right incentives to get the participation that a divisional deserves.The rules say minimum of 3, there is no limitation to 3. You could run 7 for all the rule book cares. We Ran 4 on Sat. two years ago, and Kattie had a caniption! The series can't look like the tour because it isn't. it has to find it's own character/personality.

Yes, that was one of my points. Until the division has a concrete plan for marketing, and benefits for the series, it is a waste, and a burden. It was such a great thing to get my 2003 division "trophy" in June/July of 2004... What an incentive. Not!

That may be the Chief stewards role, but her methods and attitude are not approriate for a voulenteer organization.

The last unrelated straw for me was at Wendover while I was working the entry gate and Kattie and Kevin came blasting through the gate without slowing or stopping for arm band check, and ignoring my direction to slow down. The egos are out of control.

dknv
2005-12-29, 09:29 AM
The last unrelated straw for me was at Wendover while I was working the entry gate and Kattie and Kevin came blasting through the gate without slowing or stopping for arm band check, and ignoring my direction to slow down. The egos are out of control.Who was driving?! :lol:
(Sorry, I know it wasn't funny at the time; I know others who agree with you on this point.)

dknv
2005-12-29, 09:31 AM
Changing the subject - 3 weekends of club trials at RFR, are those locked in? I really want to get the rx8 out there ...

Dean
2005-12-29, 10:04 AM
Who was driving?! :lol:
(Sorry, I know it wasn't funny at the time; I know others who agree with you on this point.)Kevin, but when I brought it up politely and privatly later to Kattie, she got all deffensive and pissy, not appoligetic. Kevin was a little better.

AtomicLabMonkey
2005-12-29, 10:28 AM
Autocross already has a low payoff/work ratio even if you're doing 5 or 6 runs per day. If you get down to 3 runs, it's almost worthless. IMO.

MattR
2005-12-29, 12:52 PM
Changing the subject - 3 weekends of club trials at RFR, are those locked in? I really want to get the rx8 out there ...


Yes, Locked in and committed. Also, the roll bar rules have been lifted, so your car and mine are legal for trials. should be a lot of fun.

dknv
2005-12-29, 08:16 PM
Also, the roll bar rules have been lifted, so your car and mine are legal for trials. should be a lot of fun.oops, oh yeah, these are Club Trials, not Solo Trials.

M3n2c3
2005-12-30, 02:52 AM
I'm going to go stir-crazy waiting for April.

M3n2c3
2005-12-31, 03:02 PM
Shouldn't this get stickied in place of the 2005 sched?

Joeyy
2006-01-03, 10:53 PM
April will be here before you know it. Are you going to run Novice or something else? Did you ever get any wheels or tires?

Bob Danger
2006-03-09, 10:06 AM
What's it going to cost to run in the Autox school on the 1st? Will it be the same as a regular track day 20 for members 30 for non-members.?

MikeK
2006-03-09, 10:15 AM
What's it going to cost to run in the Autox school on the 1st? Will it be the same as a regular track day 20 for members 30 for non-members.?

I'm not sure about the school, but this year regular days will be $25 for members and $35 for non members

Pat R.
2006-03-09, 12:57 PM
What is the cost for RNP if you want to run AM for points and PM for no points?

I have a new RNP toy coming soon...

MattR
2006-03-09, 01:06 PM
$10 US Dollars.

dknv
2006-03-09, 02:23 PM
What is the cost for RNP if you want to run AM for points and PM for no points?

I have a new RNP toy coming soon...Can I guess?

Pat R.
2006-03-09, 02:32 PM
You can try. The class has an "F" in it...

sperry
2006-03-09, 02:40 PM
You can try. The class has an "F" in it...
Sweet, I didn't know "PFR" was a class this season.

Pat R.
2006-03-09, 03:06 PM
:lol:

dknv
2006-03-09, 03:19 PM
You can try. The class has an "F" in it..... and some numbers? Cool!

cody
2006-03-09, 03:29 PM
What's a Test and Tune?

What's a Club Trial? I think that's what I went to...just driving no competition?

sperry
2006-03-09, 03:51 PM
What's a Test and Tune?

What's a Club Trial? I think that's what I went to...just driving no competition?
The nomenclature has changed for this season. Here's the current naming scheme:

Autocross:
School - the annual n00b school to teach people what autocross is about
Test-n-Tune - a non-points event where runs are available for testing your car
Points Event - a normal regional event, points are awarded towards the regional championships
Divisional Event - a more involved event, points are awarded towards the regional championships and the divisional championship (we are not holding a Divisional this year)
National Tour Event - even more involved than a divisional, very tough competition, points are awarded towards the National Tour championship
Nationals - the week-long year end National Championship event held in Topeka

Trials:
PDX (Level 1) - Performance Driving Experience, i.e. a "track day" where the point is simply track time and instruction, no timing
Club Trial (Level 2) - A time trial event where instruction is available, think of it as a timed track day
Track Trial (Level 3) - A time trial event where competition is the focus
Hill Climb (Level 4) - Think "Pikes Peak"... this is the top level of SCCA time trials

You've done a PDX. We don't have any of those scheduled this season. We'll be running Club Trials w/ Track Trials available for some of the higher preped cars.

cody
2006-03-09, 04:02 PM
Well mark me down for the Hill Climb! :lol:

dknv
2006-03-09, 04:12 PM
mm, also in Autocross (now known also as Solo) is ProSolo - mirror courses with dragstrip start. These are national level events and a points series; closest to Reno would be Atwater in May.

MattR
2006-03-09, 05:06 PM
You can try. The class has an "F" in it...
As much as I'd love to see Pat in a Camaro...I'm guessing this car has no fenders.

Pat R.
2006-03-09, 05:18 PM
Both correct, F125.
Was it the "F" or the "toy" that tipped you off?

MattR
2006-03-09, 05:29 PM
Process of elimination for me. You are from wisconsin, but I can't see you with a "Wisconsin Waterfall" haircut, so no Camaro. A "Toy" wouldn't be an F-Mod car. So, F125 it is.

I think that is a good move man. Maybe you can start racing it on the track in lemmon valley once you get good.

dknv
2006-03-09, 05:42 PM
Both correct, F125.
Was it the "F" or the "toy" that tipped you off?Toy. How will you get both vehicles to Stead?

Pat R.
2006-03-09, 05:43 PM
That's the plan: Wheel-to-wheel baby.

dknv
2006-03-09, 05:46 PM
That's the plan: Wheel-to-wheel baby.Whew. You had me worried you were going for a double-decker already. It s/b a blast!
(So when you RNP'ing the kart, want to let me RNP the S2000? ;) )

tysonK
2006-03-09, 06:38 PM
(So when you RNP'ing the kart, want to let me RNP the S2000? ;) )

I'd like to sign up for that also!

A1337STI
2006-03-28, 10:24 AM
Help I'm blind :
So i looked in this thread, a few others, and on renoscca.com and i can't find the starting Time for the April 1st auto X Class . can someone kindly tell me at what time the classes start at ?

MikeK
2006-03-28, 10:44 AM
Good question, I have a couple of guys at work asking the same thing. I'm sure someone will chime in with an answer.

On a mildly related note, weather.com was predicting sunshine and 60 degree temperatures for the weekend when I checked first thing this morning. I just checked again and they have changed their mind to rain every day. Could they be any less accurate?

Kevin M
2006-03-28, 10:48 AM
Good question, I have a couple of guys at work asking the same thing. I'm sure someone will chime in with an answer.

Ask your new buddy Jim. :p

Could they be any less accurate?

Not intentionally.

cody
2006-03-28, 11:08 AM
Help I'm blind :
So i looked in this thread, a few others, and on renoscca.com and i can't find the starting Time for the April 1st auto X Class . can someone kindly tell me at what time the classes start at ?
I sent an email to John Evans asking if there was pre-registration and what time I should be there. Here's his response:
There is no pre-registration for students. Arriving slightly before 8:00AM will be best to get your car tech'd and registration done. Bring a Snell 95 or later helmet if you have one. We have loaners but they will be in short supply during the school. Dress warmly as it is often cold and windy at Stead this time of year.

cody
2006-03-28, 11:12 AM
On a mildly related note, weather.com was predicting sunshine and 60 degree temperatures for the weekend when I checked first thing this morning. I just checked again and they have changed their mind to rain every day. Could they be any less accurate?

Here's what NOAA Weather (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/rev/) has to say:


Friday Night: Mostly cloudy. Chance of rain. Probability of measurable precipitation 30 percent. Low 32.

Saturday: Partly cloudy. Slight chance of rain showers. Probability of measurable precipitation 20 percent. High 58.

A1337STI
2006-03-28, 11:21 AM
Great thanks for the info. wonder if i order a helmet if it will come in time , guess i'll find out , my luck i'll spend a bunch of time running down to reno on thrusday to pick up rims, and get summer tires mounted and then work late, then it will rain :( rain would be fun to drive in, but sucks to drive all around the sierras to get a set ready asap and not need em. lol

cody
2006-03-28, 11:26 AM
I PM'd Aaron about his fender roller but he hasn't responded. Anybody know if he will be at the class? I just need a tiny bit of exra clearance for my tires.

Kevin M
2006-03-28, 11:28 AM
No response because he's in Tokyo today. ;) I think he said he'd be up here for the event depending on weather.

Kevin M
2006-03-28, 11:30 AM
Great thanks for the info. wonder if i order a helmet if it will come in time , guess i'll find out , my luck i'll spend a bunch of time running down to reno on thrusday to pick up rims, and get summer tires mounted and then work late, then it will rain :( rain would be fun to drive in, but sucks to drive all around the sierras to get a set ready asap and not need em. lol

If you order by 3 PM or so today from a west coast vendor, it almost certainly will get here in time. Better to have your new tires ready and not need them than vice versa. ;) And rain, schmain... we ran in snow two years ago. It's still fun. Well, driving is... being an instructor sucks ass. :p

cody
2006-03-28, 11:32 AM
No response because he's in Tokyo today. ;) I think he said he'd be up here for the event depending on weather.
Cool, thanks Kevin.

A1337STI
2006-03-28, 12:04 PM
thanks BanSUVs ;)

i'm going to order a helmet before 3pm. i think from soloracers.com as it was mentioned in a diff thread as a place with great prices. i'm worried that a full helmet will cut down on my visibility a lot versus the open face. But in the very rare/fluke chance that something goes through the windshiled eye protection could be a good thing, or is it way to hard to see with the visor down ? (108 , versus 138 ) or is that something i really don't have to worry about ? (if my windshield breaks i'll definatly stop and quit for the day )

Kevin M
2006-03-28, 12:29 PM
Soloracer.com is located in Ohio; I doubt they'd get your shipment to you by friday without paying for 2 day air. Summit carries G-Force stuff don't they?

Open vs. closed face is really a matter of personal preference in closed cars. Open is more comfortable, but closed is nice if you have a big off at Lovelock or RFR. ;)

Bob Danger
2006-03-28, 01:02 PM
Don't forget to set you clocks forward for saturday. Day Light Savings

cody
2006-03-28, 01:03 PM
Oh lame.

MikeK
2006-03-28, 01:25 PM
Don't forget to set you clocks forward for saturday. Day Light Savings

Actually it's Sunday :lol:

cody
2006-03-28, 01:47 PM
Thank god.

A1337STI
2006-03-28, 02:00 PM
Thanks a bunch BanSuvs , called summit and reserved the last medium open faced helmet they had in stock. (didn't realize they had a sparks store front) This way i can try it on before i buy it (sizing chart says i should be a medium ) , perfect :) worst case it doesn't fit and i go with a loaner

Kevin M
2006-03-28, 03:16 PM
Well, worst case is it doesn't fit and you end up with a loaner that doesn't fit. :lol: But glad you got yourself all set. You should be okay, my helmet is a medium and I wear a 7-1/4 to 7-3/8 hat. Or at least I used to, I am getting older so it might be 7-1/2 now!

M3n2c3
2006-03-28, 07:24 PM
Don't forget to set you clocks forward for saturday. Day Light Savings
Oh shnapp. . . I didn't even see that coming. Thanks man. :eek:

(Mike's right - 2am on sunday)

dknv
2006-03-28, 10:15 PM
Open is more comfortable, but closed is nice if you have a big off at Lovelock or RFR. ;)Only if you have a convertible, or if you forget, and leave your window(s) open [dknv <----:lol: ]

Oh, actually, we Are having a solo2 are Lovelock this year?

Kevin M
2006-03-29, 07:13 AM
Matt's windows were down for his 'exhibition' run at Lovelock. :) And yeah, I think we have 1 Solo at Lovelock.

A1337STI
2006-03-29, 02:17 PM
Well i think they are out of close faced in medium, but i'll check that out. if not i can always use my snowboard googles (or just some sun glasses) :) or uhm .. windows up ?

Pat R.
2006-04-03, 09:01 AM
What is the run order this weekend?

sperry
2006-04-03, 09:05 AM
What is the run order this weekend?
Pat you run when the track is the wettest. The rest of us will wait for clear skies.

Pat R.
2006-04-03, 09:09 AM
I won't mind if its wet as long as there's no gravel. Should I hit up one of my customers to loan me a mongo blower for the weekend?

Nick Koan
2006-04-03, 09:13 AM
According to the little schedule in my wallett

WY GB on Sat.
GW YB on Sun.

W = AS, BS, CS, DS, ES, FS, GS, HS
Y = Novice, SM, XP, CP, DP, AM, BM, CM, FM, Karts
B = SS, ASP, BSP, SM2, SU, DM, EM
G = Novice, CSP, DSP, ESP, FSP, STS, STS2, STX

sperry
2006-04-03, 09:13 AM
I won't mind if its wet as long as there's no gravel. Should I hit up one of my customers to loan me a mongo blower for the weekend?
Actually, what would it take to find a power broom? I don't think anything shory of a jet-dryer will clear off that tarmac, and then we'd be making a bigger mess blowing dust and gravel all over the runway.

This is what we really need:

http://www.quadivator.com/lawncare/broom1.jpg

Pat R.
2006-04-03, 09:27 AM
That's a sweet helmet!

Actually, the blowers work better than brooms.

Kevin M
2006-04-03, 09:43 AM
If it's more effective than a pushbroom, bring it on dude. :cool:

sperry
2006-04-03, 10:14 AM
That's a sweet helmet!

Actually, the blowers work better than brooms.
I'm just imagineing the massive dust clowd and hail of rocks a big blower would create... two things most pilots don't appreciate at their airport.

cody
2006-04-03, 10:15 AM
What class would a street sweeper run in? I'll drive it. :P

A1337STI
2006-04-03, 02:09 PM
According to the little schedule in my wallett

WY GB on Sat.
GW YB on Sun.

W = AS, BS, CS, DS, ES, FS, GS, HS
Y = Novice, SM, XP, CP, DP, AM, BM, CM, FM, Karts
B = SS, ASP, BSP, SM2, SU, DM, EM
G = Novice, CSP, DSP, ESP, FSP, STS, STS2, STX

Thanks a bunch. And i'm still confused. why does it show novice in 2 different color groups? Yellow and Green :?: Do novices get to pick Either group? (hope so cuase that way i can sleep in) Do novices get twice as many runs :?:

Nick Koan
2006-04-03, 02:12 PM
Thanks a bunch. And i'm still confused. why does it show novice in 2 different color groups? Yellow and Green :?: Do novices get to pick Either group? (hope so cuase that way i can sleep in) Do novices get twice as many runs :?:

Nope, they split up the novices between the two groups to balance the numbers. I don't think you can pick and choose.

MikeK
2006-04-03, 02:19 PM
Thanks a bunch. And i'm still confused. why does it show novice in 2 different color groups? Yellow and Green :?: Do novices get to pick Either group? (hope so cuase that way i can sleep in) Do novices get twice as many runs :?:

Yes, you can pick either group.

Yes, you can get twice as many runs. It is an extra $10 if you want to run in the afternoon and you have already run in the morning.

A1337STI
2006-04-04, 03:57 PM
If we run in both groups do we get to pick the best run out of all 6-10 runs for use in points ? (novice points for now, saturdays goal. 1 pt ) in either case that's a lot of Extra seat time :) (a great mod i hear)

Kevin M
2006-04-04, 04:09 PM
As a novice, you aren't running for points. That's the idea. ;)

cody
2006-04-04, 04:33 PM
Oh now I see why you guys are forcing us to run Novice. <_<


















Just Kidding! :P

A1337STI
2006-04-04, 05:24 PM
Ooooh. So we can Switch out of Novice (at some point) and then we can start collecting points (if we finish in 10th place or higher in our class) . wish the manual or the renoscca had a section on points and what not . I think I understand it now though :) so if i switch out of Novice after 4 events i can run the last 12 and treat the first 4 as my drops . (so i'll end up with how ever many points i get) Cool Beans.

also i noticed there is some sorta event in san fran, 15/16 IIRC (could have been 22/23 though) it was in one of the hand outs, i've was already planning on going down to SF one of those 2 weekends. our SCCA membership is good when we travel? do we get a card or something to prove we are a member? (lol anything for extra seat time right? lol)

cody
2006-04-04, 05:27 PM
If you joined the SCCA, you should get a membership card in the mail. You have to add a self pic and get it laminated though...I still gotta do that.

Kevin M
2006-04-04, 05:34 PM
The pic isn't required for anything we're doing.

cody
2006-04-04, 05:36 PM
Oh sweet. The lady at registration on Sat. said I needed to, but I trust ya.

Kevin M
2006-04-04, 05:42 PM
I'm sure there are things it would be needed for (like keeping you from ripping us off with someone else's ID card :p ) but I've never even had it mentioned to me. I suppose Track Trials and Hill Climbs might require it, and road racing.

A1337STI
2006-04-04, 06:51 PM
Hill Climbs? is that around here ? will i need my card with proper photo and lamination for out of region events ? specifically the april 16th San Fran region Solo ? (i was already planning on going down to SF that weekend sooo ) ;)

Kevin M
2006-04-04, 07:02 PM
Hill Climbs are way down the road man. There's nobody on this board even qualified for an SCCA Level 4 Club Trial, aka Hill Climb, except Gary Sheehan. ;) And I don't think you need to get a photo on your ID to get into an SFR event. Your membership card + DL should be enough.

dknv
2006-04-05, 05:50 AM
also i noticed there is some sorta event in san fran, 15/16 IIRC (could have been 22/23 though) it was in one of the hand outs, i've was already planning on going down to SF one of those 2 weekends. our SCCA membership is good when we travel? do we get a card or something to prove we are a member? (lol anything for extra seat time right? lol)I've run with SFR, and yes, you'll need your SCCA membership card. When did you register? (If it was just last weekend, you could contact the membership person at the scca.com website, I'd probably call them if I were you, and ask them to fax you a confirmation letter that you are a member - If you want to run in SFR.)
Keep in mind - SFR typically has 3 runs total.

Kevin M
2006-04-05, 07:17 AM
You have to be a member to run with SFR at all? Man, they really suck. I don't think I'd drive ten miles to run with SFR for fee. :|

dknv
2006-04-05, 09:13 AM
You have to be a member to run with SFR at all? Man, they really suck. I don't think I'd drive ten miles to run with SFR for fee. :|They have to do that because they'd have 500 people showing up to run, and then the actual paying members would have to contend to run. That wouldn't be fair.

For non-members, there's always American Autox.

sperry
2006-04-05, 10:05 AM
wish the manual or the renoscca had a section on points and what not .

Points are regional in nature. They're documented in the Reno SCCA Supplemental Rules:

http://www.renoscca.com/results/2006/2006%20Solo2%20Sups.htm

And I second Debbie's recommendation of American AutoX. AAX is run by a great group of people... they're not quite as pro-active as the Reno SCCA group as far as helping out new drivers IMO, but if you ask for help, someone will always be willing to point you in the right direction. In addition, the events they run out at Castle AFB in Atwater tend to be amazing, high-speed, extremely fun courses. I try to make at least one of their events every year. Somehow, I managed to keep my annual tech through 2004 with them, but lost it in '05 'cause my car was down for so long. :(

Also, AAX has some *incredible* cars. They're very "American Iron" in nature and there are some serious C-Prepared beasts out there. Keep an eye on the Maier Racing cars... Mike Maier is consistantly in the running for the top spot at Nationals in his CP mustang.

Check out their website: http://www.americanauto-x.com/

A1337STI
2006-04-14, 02:57 PM
I've run with SFR, and yes, you'll need your SCCA membership card. When did you register? (If it was just last weekend, you could contact the membership person at the scca.com website, I'd probably call them if I were you, and ask them to fax you a confirmation letter that you are a member - If you want to run in SFR.)
Keep in mind - SFR typically has 3 runs total.

Well i checked and there are no phone numbers listed on the renoscca.com contact page. And i just checked my mail. And i do not have have proof of being a member. Does anyone happen to have a contact number of someone who may be able to fax me proof of membership?

Thank You

Dean
2006-04-14, 03:02 PM
http://www.scca.com/Inside/Index.asp?IdS=0098DD-92D5B60&reference=staff

A1337STI
2006-04-14, 03:11 PM
Thank you. Their office is closed today for a holiday. Guess i'm SOL, I've got all the hand outs from the stead events, But nothing that specifically prooves i'm a member. I'll leave a message with the national office. Thanks again Dean.

A1337STI
2006-04-14, 04:00 PM
Well i was persitant and found this :
http://www.scca.com/Inside/Index.asp?IdS=000003-55ACC80&Reference=436796&%7E=
got a hold of Patty who tracked down my app, and is faxing proof of membership over to me. (Thanks again) Now i will get to show a friend of mine some Auto Cross fun .

cody
2006-05-10, 03:07 PM
According to the little schedule in my wallett

WY GB on Sat.
GW YB on Sun.

W = AS, BS, CS, DS, ES, FS, GS, HS
Y = Novice, SM, XP, CP, DP, AM, BM, CM, FM, Karts
B = SS, ASP, BSP, SM2, SU, DM, EM
G = Novice, CSP, DSP, ESP, FSP, STS, STS2, STX

Is this valid for this weekend too?

Dean
2006-05-10, 03:12 PM
Is this valid for this weekend too?NO!

http://www.renoscca.com/

Click on the event schedule tab... Or look at the pocket schedule you should already have in your wallet...

cody
2006-05-10, 03:19 PM
NO!

http://www.renoscca.com/

Click on the event schedule tab... Or look at the pocket schedule you should already have in your wallet...

Okay, so the top one is the run order for Sat. and the bottom is for Sunday I take it? Lunch falls in the middle of the 4 run groups? Since I'm in the G rungroup on Sunday, what time should I come?

BGWY
YBGW

Nick Koan
2006-05-10, 03:20 PM
7:30am!

You could probably get away with showing up around 10:30-11 on Sunday.

Dean
2006-05-10, 03:22 PM
Get there in time to get your car teched and make the driver's meeting...

From the Suplemental regulations, also on the web site...:

Autocross Schedule*

Registration 8:00am - 12:00 pm

Tech Inspection 8:00am – 8:45 am for morning
10:00am – 11:45 for afternoon
Drivers’ Meeting*** 9:00am
& not earlier than 12:00pm
Official Runs 9:15am
& not earlier than 12:15pm to completion

Registration will be open at a minimum from 8:00AM to 12:00PM except for possible closure during drivers' meetings.

Tech inspection will be open at a minimum from 8:00AM to 8:45AM and 10:00AM to 11:45AM. Tech may be closed during drivers' meetings.

Drivers' meetings will not start before 9:00AM for the morning run groups and not before 12:00PM for the afternoon run groups.

Official runs may begin by 9:15AM for morning groups and by 12:15PM or afternoon groups.

A drivers' meeting is mandatory each day for all drivers before driving.

Changes to start times may be made if circumstances warrant.

cody
2006-05-10, 03:26 PM
Thanks.

Kevin M
2006-05-10, 03:37 PM
No, the groups rotated forward. Saturday starts with Yellow, Sunday starts with White.

cody
2006-05-10, 03:42 PM
No, the groups rotated forward. Saturday starts with Yellow, Sunday starts with White.
What happened? So it's:

Sat: YWGB
Sun: WGBY

So if I'm running ESP (Green), I can come at 10:30 or 11 on Sat and 7:30 on Sun?

MattR
2006-05-10, 03:44 PM
No, the groups rotated forward. Saturday starts with Yellow, Sunday starts with White.
No, it looks like Saturday is BGWY and Sunday is YBGW.

cody
2006-05-10, 03:45 PM
Aw, rotated fwd, not reversed. :idea:

bruspeed
2006-05-10, 03:45 PM
What happened? So it's:

Sat: YWGB
Sun: WGBY

So if I'm running ESP (Green), I can come at 10:30 or 11 on Sat and 7:30 on Sun?


Just show up around 7, both days, and help set up, then you won't have any problems. :)

MattR
2006-05-10, 03:46 PM
Just show up around 7, both days, and help set up, then you won't have any problems. :)
Good Attitude, Lucas would love you guys.

cody
2006-05-10, 03:48 PM
I'm just trying to schedule my hangover accordingly. :P

Kevin M
2006-05-10, 03:50 PM
Whoops, I hadn't noticed the turned page before I replied with the schedule rotation. :lol:

MattR
2006-05-10, 03:55 PM
Whoops, I hadn't noticed the turned page before I replied with the schedule rotation. :lol:
It still makes no sense.

Dean
2006-05-10, 07:57 PM
You run one group "later" each event until August when it bumps 2 forward. I am not sure if this was a mistake, a remnant of last year when we had a single day event in there, or an attempt to even out the number of spit weekends everyone gets.

Until August White, and Blue get to run the same half of the day both days, and Green and Yellow are always spit one early, one late. In august, that flip flops.

I'm guessing that is just an artifact from last year's schedule because there was a one day event last year that did that to us without mucking with the bumps per event.

Bob Danger
2006-05-10, 08:44 PM
Dean do you plan on running the STI, or are you going to finish the season in the Miata?

M3n2c3
2006-05-10, 09:27 PM
Just show up around 7, both days, and help set up, then you won't have any problems. :)
Yeah, Cory and I have been doing our best to get there in time to help with the layout. The bonus is that we can get a little more familiar with the track. :)

Dean
2006-05-10, 10:19 PM
Dean do you plan on running the STI, or are you going to finish the season in the Miata?I plan to continue to compete in the Miata.

I already know I can whoop all you yongins in a FWD, or AWD car :P , learning to drive a low HP light well balanced rear wheel drive car is my challenge for the year. :cool:

I think next year I'll go kick some Corvette ass... :lol:

dknv
2006-05-10, 10:39 PM
I think next year I'll go kick some Corvette ass... :lol:Why wait until next year? ;)

MikeK
2006-05-29, 06:36 PM
Results are done up to round 6. Scott and Matt are currently equal 2nd for overall pax behind Lucas!

dknv
2006-05-29, 07:01 PM
Thanks for getting results up so quickly!

Kevin M
2006-05-29, 07:06 PM
Yeah, nice job dude.

MattR
2006-05-29, 08:30 PM
Results are done up to round 6. Scott and Matt are currently equal 2nd for overall pax behind Lucas!
Wow Just wow!!!! Thanks for getting the results up so quickly Mike, you rule.

MikeK
2006-05-29, 08:41 PM
Wow Just wow!!!! Thanks for getting the results up so quickly Mike, you rule.

I decided to punish (http://www.renoscca.com/results/2006/round5_class.txt) you guys (http://www.renoscca.com/results/2006/round6_class.txt) for beating me both days. It's like the rat in the maze who gets zapped everytime he goes for the cheese, and after a while he learns to let me win at autoX ;)

MattR
2006-05-29, 08:45 PM
Is that why we're listed as "ladies"? :lol:

You beat us into the ground all last season, so I don;t feel bad for you yet. You'll be back, I have no doubt in my mind.

Dean
2006-05-30, 07:14 AM
What, no love for the web master? That's it, there is going to have to be some Subaru PAX Ass kicking by a Stock Miata... Oh wait, that already hapepened Sunday except for Matt and some LV guy in a AS car who spanked you all... :P

Seriously, we had some really good driving this weekend. Congratulations to all.

MattR
2006-05-30, 12:52 PM
Thanks webmaster Dean for clicking the buttons and posting the info that Mike sent to you.

sperry
2006-05-30, 12:57 PM
Thanks webmaster Dean for clicking the buttons and posting the info that Mike sent to you.
Yeah it looks like the April 29th trials event results got posted. 'Course, they're not sorted by class, nor do they included points... didn't we have all that data? What happened?

dknv
2006-05-30, 01:01 PM
Thanks webmaster Dean for clicking the buttons and posting the info that Mike sent to you.Well, it used to have to be reformatted to display correctly on the web page, maybe that all changed though.

Thanks Dean.

Dean
2006-05-30, 01:30 PM
Yeah it looks like the April 29th trials event results got posted. 'Course, they're not sorted by class, nor do they included points... didn't we have all that data? What happened?I think I posted what was in the zip file Mike sent me. I'll double check tonight.

A1337STI
2006-05-30, 01:49 PM
Thanks to all for the results. I finally won !! (in a class of 1) :lol:

MikeK
2006-07-16, 03:28 PM
Everyone spare a thought for Mr Danger, who hit a cone on every run yesterday (including his DNF)

MPREZIV
2006-07-17, 07:04 AM
Everyone spare a thought for Mr Danger, who hit a cone on every run yesterday (including his DNF)

My deepest sympathies...

I tried to hit all my cones for the day on my first run! DNF twice on one lap! Sweet!

sperry
2006-07-17, 08:22 AM
I think I only has 2 cones on the weekend... one was blatant, as I understeered off the course, the other was just from clipping one in the slalom w/ the rear of the car.

Much better than the 15 cones I hit at Hawthorne. 'Course at Hawthorne I took overall PAX on Saturday and 9th on Sunday... perhaps I should go back to hitting enough cones to tear off the front bumper. :?:

MikeK
2006-07-17, 09:54 AM
It looks like there are 3 people who can win their class at the next event: John Evans, John III Riggs, and ... <drum roll> ... Carrie!

Carrie, you should finish the season in the mini after you win SML :)

Nick Koan
2006-07-17, 10:12 AM
So, have I at least taken second place away from the cheese wagon?

Kevin M
2006-07-17, 11:07 AM
It looks like there are 3 people who can win their class at the next event: John Evans, John III Riggs, and ... <drum roll> ... Carrie!

Carrie, you should finish the season in the mini after you win SML :)

I was going to say that I should be on that list too, except I think I just clinched CSP this weekend. :eek: I have 190 points, and I think the most Wes Friesen can finish with is 180. Do I have that right Mike?

MikeK
2006-07-17, 11:23 AM
No, he could finish with 222

Kevin M
2006-07-17, 11:43 AM
Does that include 4 drops or 2?

MikeK
2006-07-17, 11:44 AM
4

Kevin M
2006-07-17, 11:47 AM
Crap, I see my error now. I guess I just have to cross my fingers nobody else shows up in CSP, or that he misses Squaw and/or Lovelock.

MikeK
2006-07-17, 12:04 PM
Crap, I see my error now.

I agree, you would make a great timing chief next year!

Kevin M
2006-07-17, 12:30 PM
I agree, you would make a great timing chief next year!

/me runs away

p.s.- I will clinch CSP next weekend, provided I can find a miata to drive and Wes shows up to make sure I get my 42 points.

dknv
2006-07-17, 02:17 PM
Carrie, you should finish the season in the mini after you win SML :)Yeah, but there's still pax position, which you're in good position for, Carrie. ;)
[edit]Just an opinion - bring the mini out one of the days when you run in the morning, then run the mini in the afternoon for no points, and see how it performs. We might find out that your mini is even faster paxed than Matt's STI in SM/L. :)

dknv
2006-07-17, 02:18 PM
I think I only has 2 cones on the weekend... one was blatant, as I understeered off the course, the other was just from clipping one in the slalom w/ the rear of the car. Was your car any better/faster with the a/c out? (Didn't get to see run group 1 on Sunday.)

sperry
2006-07-17, 02:32 PM
Was your car any better/faster with the a/c out? (Didn't get to see run group 1 on Sunday.)
It was a lot hotter on the way to/from the event! :lol:

Actually, it's hard to say how the A/C removal effected the car. I figured out that my rear struts are blown out (zero rebound damping :eek: ), which explains why the car was so inconsistant, and wouldn't turn at all when the track got slick Sat afternoon. Sunday, when the track was cooler, I found some grip, but still couldn't perform to the Roy/Khamis level (though Mike got me by less than 0.05 seconds :mad: ).

I've got new suspension on the way, hopefully to be in the car by the trials this weekend, and Cory's mounting up some RA1's for me by then as well. It should be a totally new animal this weekend. I just hope I can figure out how to drive it! :lol:

Joeyy
2006-07-17, 02:49 PM
The weekend was fun but I have alot of cone marks to work on. I don't think some will come out but we'll see.

Dean
2006-07-17, 03:17 PM
Windex... Don't know why, but it cuts through cone marks that tar and paint remover won't...

It's good on cuts, and burns and other stuff as well. Ask Grandpa... What the hell is that from? Some movie or show where grandpa uses Windex for everything...

MikeK
2006-07-17, 03:40 PM
Windex is for chumps. Just stop washing the car and the marks will eventually blend in.

Dean
2006-07-17, 04:04 PM
Found it... "My Big Fat Greek Wedding"...

Toula Portokalos: [narrating] My dad believed in two things: That Greeks should educate non Greeks about being Greek and every ailment from psoriasis to poison ivy can be cured with Windex.

Allen_A
2006-09-06, 09:21 PM
Hello All - (I think this is the correct place to post something like this) just wanted to let you know that I will be RFR on the 17th. I can't make it on the 16th (traveling back that night). My pops is going to join me on the 17th, should be fun.

Anyway, looking forward to driving with you guys again.

sperry
2006-09-07, 10:42 AM
Cool man. It'll be good to see you out there again!

Joeyy
2006-10-03, 04:30 PM
As I look into my families future vacation plans I think....darn I need to know the 2007 schedule. How soon will the SCCA elders start looking into my dilemma.

sperry
2006-10-03, 05:52 PM
As I look into my families future vacation plans I think....darn I need to know the 2007 schedule. How soon will the SCCA elders start looking into my dilemma.
You'll be lucky if there's a schedule by January. Hell, you'll be lucky if there's a schedule by the 1st event... we didn't even know where/when the August auto-x this season was going to be until May or June!

MikeK
2006-10-03, 07:20 PM
As I look into my families future vacation plans I think....darn I need to know the 2007 schedule. How soon will the SCCA elders start looking into my dilemma.

To be on the safe side just tell your wife you need to keep every weekend free :P