Gary Sheehan Teams with ESX to run Speed GT!

[MattR]

U saw this blurb on Nasioc, what exciting news!


ESX Motorsports debuts Subaru Impreza WRX STI at the Long Beach SPEED GT event Easy Street Motorsports enters SCCA SPEED World Challenge GT Championship with the versatile Subaru Impreza WRX STI driven by touring car ace Gary Sheehan VALENCIA, CA (Mar 09, 2006)

Easy Street Motorsports (ESX) announces a new entry in the highly competitive SCCA SPEED World Challenge GT field, with the team making its debut at the famed Long Beach Grand Prix, held April 7-9. Coverage of the one-hour GT race will be shown on SPEED TV, Sun., April 16, at 2 p.m. EST. ESX owner, Ali Afshar said, “We've seen much success with the Subaru Impreza WRX STI winning 10 NHRA Championship ‘Wally's’, and we look forward to taking ESX and Subaru into battle against the world's best in the SPEED GT series." Managed and engineered by Indycar and Sportscar veteran Marshall Pruett, the ESX team will look to capitalize on its success with the Impreza WRX STI last December, placing 3rd overall in the world's longest endurance race, the 25 Hours of Thunderhill. Lead driver of the 25hr race, and Subaru road racing veteran Gary Sheehan has been chosen to race and develop the ESX STI in 2006. "Gary was my first choice when Ali and I decided to put this program together--Gary brings the raw speed, technical feedback, experience with the WRX platform, and professional demeanor I need to get the best results possible,” said Pruett. He's an incredible driver and racer--we're lucky to have him.” Gary Sheehan was ecstatic to learn he'd been chosen to pilot the ESX STI. "Ali and Easy Street have been phenomenal supporters of my driving, and I'm glad we can put our combined Subaru experience together to race in SPEED World Challenge,” said Sheehan. “I raced and won in an all-wheel drive Subaru Impreza WRX in a different touring car series between 2001-2003, and fell in love with the car. I can't wait for the first practice session at Long Beach to begin." With Long Beach serving as the home race for ESX, the team looks forward to their first appearance being in front of the 175,000 fans in attendance. "We're fortunate to launch the team at our home race,” said Afshar. “We know the huge potential of the Impreza WRX STI, and we hope that it will develop into a front runner.” The Subaru/SPT/ESX drag racing team is sponsored by Subaru of America, Inc. and Subaru Performance Tuning (SPT). The ESX team will carry special sponsorship at Long Beach including Arceo Wheels, Subaru Ontario, Santa Monica Subaru, Heuberger Subaru, and Impact Engineering.

Further details on the team can be found at www.esxmotorsports.com

[Dean]

Secret Project revealed... Congratulations Gary.

[sybir]

Congrats, man :)

Give 'em hell!

[Nick Koan]

Sweet. Congrats man.

[Kevin M]

Friggin' sweet!

[GarySheehan]

Goddammit!!!! You beat me to it!!!!

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[JonnydaJibba]

Bad ass, can't wait to watch that.

[Nick Koan]

Wait a second, I just read that again.

You're running in GT not TC? Does that mean you guys have some monster HP under the hood?

[Dean]

You're running in GT not TC? Does that mean you guys have some monster HP under the hood?Same class they ran the car in at the 25 hour race and came in 3rd.

[dknv]

Sounds like a great team-up to me! Go Gary!

[GarySheehan]

Yep, we'll need big power. We'll be up against the Cadillacs, Vipers, Vettes, Porsches, etc.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[doubleurx]

Yep, we'll need big power. We'll be up against the Cadillacs, Vipers, Vettes, Porsches, etc.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

Congratulations Gary. We'll be watching!

[MPREZIV]

Best of luck dude! Livin' the dream! A career in racing is the one thing I've always wanted! Do us proud bro!

[sperry]

Awesome news Gary! Welcome to the team:

http://www.seccs.org/gallery/Car%20Pictures/Doink%20WRX/ESX%20Photos/ESX%20Decals%20Front%20Left.jpg

:lol: Okay, not quite...

Speaking of the "big power" needed for Speed GT... I always thought the WRX would be an awesome TC car, but never thought the step up to the STi was quite enough to hang w/ the GT cars. I'm stoked you guys are gonna give it a shot, but I hope you found a way to get about at least 600 reliable hp out of that car, 'cause if you're going to be racing at about a 2700 lb weight, you're gonna need it! :eek:

Congrats again Gary, this is terrific news! We've got our own race when you guys are at Sears Point, but I'm writing in the Seca event on my schedule immediately! Good luck!

[MattR]

Goddammit!!!! You beat me to it!!!!

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
Sorry Man, I couldn't help it. The news is too exciting to keep a lid on. I can't wait to see you guys out there kicking ass. You know we're all going to get together to watch the races and cheer on the ESX team. :cool:

[cody]

Sounds Exciting. Sombody record this fo shizzle.

[JonnydaJibba]

Speed GT is sick, it will be awesome to see a Subie finally.

[sti deede]

Yep, we'll need big power. We'll be up against the Cadillacs, Vipers, Vettes, Porsches, etc.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

Congrats Gary!! This is exciting news indeed. Good luck!

It seems weird to see Cadillacs listed with Vipers, Vettes and Porsches.

[sperry]

Congrats Gary!! This is exciting news indeed. Good luck!

It seems weird to see Cadillacs listed with Vipers, Vettes and Porsches.
The CTS-V is basically a Corvette under a Cadillac body.

http://www.terra.com/addon/img/autos/1502e84gal01-cts-v-race-car-frontp.jpg

[MPREZIV]

^^^ I'd cut parts of me off with a rusty knife for that car...

[Kevin M]

I, too, would cut parts off of Cory with a rusty knife for a CTS-V!

[cody]

Dude, Kevin, he said he'd cut parts of himself, not off himself. That's just crossing the line. :P

[MikeK]

he said he'd cut parts of himself, not off himself.^^^ I'd cut parts of me off with a rusty knife for that car...

I disconcur with your analysis

[cody]

Shinanigans!

[JonnydaJibba]

I disconcur with your analysis

:lol:

[cody]

Okay, fine I was wrong. I still like saying shenanigans though.

[cody]

I disconcur with your analysis

But my name is Cody, not to be confused with Cory. You can call me White Cody if it helps. :lol:

[sti deede]

The CTS-V is basically a Corvette under a Cadillac body.

http://www.terra.com/addon/img/autos/1502e84gal01-cts-v-race-car-frontp.jpg
I did not know that. OMG that is a sexy beast.

[GarySheehan]

Consider that our STi will be wearing a widebody kit to fit over the 275/35 tires and 18"x10" wheels. I'm hoping that "sexy beast" will apply to our STi as well :)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[cody]

Consider that our STi will be wearing a widebody kit to fit over the 275/35 tires and 18"x10" wheels. I'm hoping that "sexy beast" will apply to our STi as well :)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

TTIWWOP! :D

[Nick Koan]

I haven't even seen pictures yet, but widebody + STi + 275/35 on 18"x10" == sexy beast no matter what.

[sperry]

Consider that our STi will be wearing a widebody kit to fit over the 275/35 tires and 18"x10" wheels. I'm hoping that "sexy beast" will apply to our STi as well :)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
I wonder if that means I'm gonna fail in my attempt to put 255/40/17's on my 17x8" wheels under a non-wide body set of fenders. :(

[Dean]

I wonder if that means I'm gonna fail in my attempt to put 255/40/17's on my 17x8" wheels under a non-wide body set of fenders. :(On your pre '05 suspension, Yes.

[sti deede]

Consider that our STi will be wearing a widebody kit to fit over the 275/35 tires and 18"x10" wheels. I'm hoping that "sexy beast" will apply to our STi as well :)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

Sweet ass!!! You bet it will:D Even more exciting because it is a Subaru! I can't wait to see the car with the wide body, course I'll have to excuse myself once I do ;)

[sperry]

On your pre '05 suspension, Yes.
What's the '05 suspension have to do w/ it? I've got camber adjustable top mounts, coilovers, and camber bolts, so I've already got tons more room than the '05 suspension provides. Plus, I've got rolled fenders, something you *can't* do on an '05 in the rear.

[Dean]

What's the '05 suspension have to do w/ it? I've got camber adjustable top mounts, coilovers, and camber bolts, so I've already got tons more room than the '05 suspension provides. Plus, I've got rolled fenders, something you *can't* do on an '05 in the rear.I was under the impression that the new geometry allowed for more strut to fender clearance and inner fender wall/liner clearance, stock or coilover. I could be wrong though. Thus Alon's 275s was it on his '05. Feel free to split this discussion into another thread.

[Kevin M]

You mean more backspacing Dean?

[Dean]

You mean more backspacing Dean?If you mean wheel offset, no. I was under the impression that the hub/spindle, lower arm, and even attachment points had changed in '05.

[JonnydaJibba]

Wow, 18x10 and 275s is amazing. So you must mean wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide body STi. Mmmm, that's gonna be so hot.

[GarySheehan]

TTIWWOP! :D

TPWBWWTBKIPBP!!!















(Those Pictures Will Be Worthless Withouth The Body Kit Installed. Please Be Patient)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[JonnydaJibba]

I dunno how stupid of a question this is but are you guys using the Sti that you raced in the 24 hour race? Or do you have another one? I dunno how these things work. Seems to me if you are in Speed GT then starting from scratch with another car would be the best choice, but I'm not a racer (wish I was).

[Kevin M]

If you mean wheel offset, no. I was under the impression that the hub/spindle, lower arm, and even attachment points had changed in '05.

Backspacing does not mean offset. It's 1/2 width plus offset- the distance from the mounting surface back towards the strut that the wheel goes. I was under the impression that the new suspension had more backspacing, meaning a given width wheel could be run with a higher numerical offset, giving more fender clearance.

[cody]

TPWBWWTBKIPBP!!!

(Those Pictures Will Be Worthless Withouth The Body Kit Installed. Please Be Patient)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

Patience=a virutue. Cody!=virtuous.

[GarySheehan]

OK, here are some pics of a car with the APR Performance body kit that is going on our car...

http://www.teamsmr.com/images/SSGT_IMG_5916.jpg

http://www.teamsmr.com/images/SSGT_IMG_5929.jpg

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[JonnydaJibba]

So new car? That's hot (Paris Hilton voice)

[GarySheehan]

I dunno how stupid of a question this is but are you guys using the Sti that you raced in the 24 hour race? Or do you have another one? I dunno how these things work. Seems to me if you are in Speed GT then starting from scratch with another car would be the best choice, but I'm not a racer (wish I was).

Really? What is it about the 25 Hour car that you think would be bad for World Challenge GT?

There was nothing done to the 25 Hour car that would make a fresh car a better choice. The cage that was in the 25 hour car is amazing, it already has the a ton of work in it that is completely appropriate for WCGT (fuel cell, suspension, seat, plexi windows, etc.)

The car is getting an entirely new body, aero, wheels and tires as well as other safety mods. Starting with a fresh chassis would just give us lots of additional work without any advantages. The 25 Hour car was built with World Challenge GT in mind ;)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[cody]

OK, here are some pics of a car with the APR Performance body kit that is going on our car...

http://www.teamsmr.com/images/SSGT_IMG_5916.jpg

http://www.teamsmr.com/images/SSGT_IMG_5916.jpg

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
Holy Hot! I was thinking it would be a new STI. Glad to see you guys will be using a Peanut Eye.

[JonnydaJibba]

Really? What is it about the 25 Hour car that you think would be bad for World Challenge GT?

There was nothing done to the 25 Hour car that would make a fresh car a better choice. The cage that was in the 25 hour car is amazing, it already has the a ton of work in it that is completely appropriate for WCGT (fuel cell, suspension, seat, plexi windows, etc.)

The car is getting an entirely new body, aero, wheels and tires as well as other safety mods. Starting with a fresh chassis would just give us lots of additional work without any advantages. The 25 Hour car was built with World Challenge GT in mind ;)

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

See I told you I didn't know what I was talking about.

[GarySheehan]

See I told you I didn't know what I was talking about.

Right. I just wanted to ruthlessly drive the point home :)

Now, starting next week, when the car is out of our hands and back in Socal, I'll focus on kicking your ass in GT4 :p


BTW...anyone know a good driving sim with Long Beach in the tracks?


Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[sperry]

Right. I just wanted to ruthlessly drive the point home :)

Now, starting next week, when the car is out of our hands and back in Socal, I'll focus on kicking your ass in GT4 :p


BTW...anyone know a good driving sim with Long Beach in the tracks?


Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
Long Beach was in the original Papyrus Indycar and Indycar II... but that game is so old it's from before the Champ/IRL split. :lol: But that's the last time I remember driving LB in a game.

http://www.technofile.com/images/indycar2-2.jpg

I don't think there's a game out there right now w/ LB, however, there are mods that add it to other games. Grand Prix 3 has a champcar mod that includes that track, and I think you can drive it w/ the Celicas from the Celebrity race.

There's a mod to EA's F1 Challenge game that add champ cars and tracks, including LB: http://idt.rscsites.org/ Hopefully those same guys will add that track to rFactor soon (the hands-down best driving simulator on the PC, IMO).

Does Forza have it by any chance? I played Forza for about 10 minutes before going back to GT4.

[JonnydaJibba]

No Forza doesn't have it. It does have some cool tracks, but no LB.

[JC]

That's sweet Gary. Scott your car needs a widebody too. Just get some bolt-on fender arches.

[doubleurx]

That's sweet Gary. Scott your car needs a widebody too. Just get some bolt-on fender arches.


Just take the fenders off and go as wide as you can!

[doubleurx]

Almost forgot- beautiful car Gary. Can't wait to see the two of you in action.

[Dean]

Can't wait to see pictures of your actual car with the WB kit. Somebody go P-Chop those fenders onto the 25 hour car on www.teamSMR.com

You have any pics of the cage in the 25 hour car? Did TC Design up here, or Sabina down south do it? A couple of us are threatening to finally bite the bullet and put one in. Even if we don't use TC, some good detailed pics of an "amazing" cage would really help.

Thanks

[MattR]

Even if the Long Beach track was in one of the games, I read that they are changing the turn 1-2 complex this season to make it faster.

[A1337STI]

Congratulations Gary !!!

I wish i could be a pro driver. but i'm a web monkey , but at least I can watch you racing on the speed channel :) I'll be supporting you by yelling at my TV lots and drinking some beer while you Race though :)

can't wait to see the pics of your Car when its all done :)

[GarySheehan]

Congratulations Gary !!!

I wish i could be a pro driver. but i'm a web monkey , but at least I can watch you racing on the speed channel :) I'll be supporting you by yelling at my TV lots and drinking some beer while you Race though :)

can't wait to see the pics of your Car when its all done :)

The louder you yell, the faster I'll go. More beer will help, too, but disproportionally to the yelling part.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[cody]

:lol: Beer makes me yell.

[GarySheehan]

:lol: Beer makes me yell.

Odd, it only makes me burp. Or drunk if I have too much.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[cody]

Hmmm, I'll have to conduct some tests to see if I concur.

[doubleurx]

Odd, it only makes me burp. Or drunk if I have too much.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com


Wait, you said it would make you go faster!

Beer just makes me fatter!

[sperry]

Wait, you said it would make you go faster!

Beer just makes me fatter!
Yeah, if we drink and yell at the TV, it will make Gary go faster. It's the armchair quarterback effect. :D

Edit: 'course the last time we got together to watch Gary on TV, we had to watch a poor Audi get pushed off the track and into the worlds biggest block of styrofoam. :(

[cody]

Wait, you said it would make you go faster!

Beer just makes me fatter!
Try yelling at your stomach (or other offending area). It really helps.

[GarySheehan]

Wait, you said it would make you go faster!

Beer just makes me fatter!

No, I said if A1337STI drinks, it will make me go faster, but that him yelling at the screen will have more of an effect.

Drinking and driving don't mix. Except in GT4.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[cody]

Now I know why Gary never wins the GT4 Challenges. :P

[Kevin M]

Try yelling at your stomach (or other offending area). It really helps.

So, sort of like the opposite of talking to your houseplants? :p

[cody]

Exactly!

[A1337STI]

Sweet. i'll drink and yell tons and you'll win ;)

Is anyone planning a get together / group viewing ? who has a huge TV ? :)

and i'm with Gary on drinking and driving -> Only for video games . Crashing is only fun when you have a reset button

[Kevin M]

Crashing is only fun when you have a reset button

Or a disposable car. See the Escort thread. ;)

[MPREZIV]

+1 for the drinking and yelling! I'll be there for ya Gary!

[JonnydaJibba]

Yay let's have a drinking and yelling party.

[GarySheehan]

That sounds like fun! I wanna go!

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[MPREZIV]

^^^dude, you need to be RACING at the time. I don't think you can come...

[sperry]

That sounds like fun! I wanna go!

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
Cool, I'll drive for you, and you can hang out with these guys and watch me wreck out the field in T1 on TV. :lol:

[MattR]

Ali @ ESX offered me a job driving the hauler two years ago...I wonder if I can still get in on that :) I think I'd do it for free at this point.

[JonnydaJibba]

Ali @ ESX offered me a job driving the hauler two years ago...I wonder if I can still get in on that :) I think I'd do it for free at this point.

And you turned it down because...

[MattR]

Because I didn't want to quit the job I had at the time, and being an over the road truck driver is a tough life.

Edit: I'm bummed we have an autocross the same say as the LB race, I would actually try to go if it was a free weekend. To make matters more difficult, Scott and I are in charge of the event that weekend, so I'm going nowhere :D

[JonnydaJibba]

Like living on the road in your truck basically? Yeah sucky.

[doubleurx]

Ali @ ESX offered me a job driving the hauler two years ago...I wonder if I can still get in on that :) I think I'd do it for free at this point.


Do it for a some beer and a megaphone. It will help Gary feel like he is part of the party.

[cody]

I've always wanted to rent a big truck and load the back with couches, beer and chicks and go to a concert or somthing. Matt, can you go ahead and set that up?

[MattR]

I've always wanted to rent a big truck and load the back with couches, beer and chicks and go to a concert or somthing. Matt, can you go ahead and set that up?

We need a trailer and it's on. :lol:

[sperry]

I've always wanted to rent a big truck and load the back with couches, beer and chicks and go to a concert or somthing. Matt, can you go ahead and set that up?
Let's do a roller disco like they did on the Jackass movie. :lol:

[MattR]

Let's do a roller disco like they did on the Jackass movie. :lol:

That was brutal.

[Kevin M]

Edit: I'm bummed we have an autocross the same say as the LB race, I would actually try to go if it was a free weekend.

Damn, another one. Mt. Hammy is the same day as points event #9 this year. :( Hopefully Seca and/or Sears Point is on an unused weekend for us.

[MattR]

Looks to me like the Nasioc thread is the best to follow the progress of the car...

There are some new pics up today. Gary, I didn't know you were wrenching on the car too! You are the man.


http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13062505&postcount=72

[sperry]

Hey Gary, I noticed in the NASIOC thread that you're going to a Perrin FMIC on your car. Since I'm running the same thing, I'm wondering how you're routing your brake ducting. Are you using intakes in the front bumper, or on the lower splitter like you did on the USTCC WRX? Are you going to be running 3" ducting? Are you routing it below the frame of the car, or have you found a location through the engine bay and fenders?

I'm going to be trying to fab up my ducts this weekend... I had a decent 2.25" set of ducts coming off the stock fog-light buckets before the FMIC, but I'm sorta at a loss for what to do now that 2/3's of my space is taken up by intercooler now.

[GarySheehan]

Trust me, I live for the day when I don't HAVE to wrench on a car. If and when I get to that point, I probably will continue to at some level. I really get to know the guys on the team that way and they know that I have just as much invested in the prep of the car as they do. Also, I think it gives me a little more empathy for the car. I'll burn it down if I have to, but otherwise I take it easy on the equipment.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[MikeK]

"G-Diddy" :lol:

[GarySheehan]

Hey Gary, I noticed in the NASIOC thread that you're going to a Perrin FMIC on your car. Since I'm running the same thing, I'm wondering how you're routing your brake ducting. Are you using intakes in the front bumper, or on the lower splitter like you did on the USTCC WRX? Are you going to be running 3" ducting? Are you routing it below the frame of the car, or have you found a location through the engine bay and fenders?

I'm going to be trying to fab up my ducts this weekend... I had a decent 2.25" set of ducts coming off the stock fog-light buckets before the FMIC, but I'm sorta at a loss for what to do now that 2/3's of my space is taken up by intercooler now.

We don't know yet :)

We just received the new body kit last night around 8pm. So we'll have to see how it fits and what space we have available to us.

One thing to consider is that we're not going to have the same constraints as a street car, meaning we can run the ducts as the lowest part of the car by far without worrying about speedbumps and stuff like that.

We'll take pics and you'll see what we come up with.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[sperry]

We don't know yet :)

We just received the new body kit last night around 8pm. So we'll have to see how it fits and what space we have available to us.

One thing to consider is that we're not going to have the same constraints as a street car, meaning we can run the ducts as the lowest part of the car by far without worrying about speedbumps and stuff like that.

We'll take pics and you'll see what we come up with.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
Awesome, pictures would be much appreciated!

I'm not too concerned with my ducts being the lowest part of the car either, since it's only street driven to/from the track, and to the occational Subaru meet. However, I still haven't found a good location for mounting the intakes for the ducts... I guess I'll be playing with it this weekend and we'll see what I can come up with.

[cody]

Scott, have you seen this thread? This should bring you to a post that addresses your situation.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12992139&highlight=fmic#post12992139

[GarySheehan]

Car is looking pretty Bad Ass!

http://www.teamsmr.com/images/World%20Challenge%20GT/1ED.jpg

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[cody]

Do you have any mods Gary?
























:P

[AtomicLabMonkey]

Car is looking pretty Bad Ass!

Looking very good. Is that all the front splitter you're allowed in the rules?

[Kevin M]

Friggin' hawt!

[JonnydaJibba]

Yeah that's bad ass. Can't wait to get drunk and yell at the toob when you race.

[zpeed]

The car look sweet, love the rims.

[dknv]

Wow, that picture looks poster-isable. If you guys ever get some made - I'd like one.

[kidatari]

That's hot. [/Paris Hilton]

[sperry]

Gary, what's that tow hook bolted/welded to? I've got IC pipine in the way in there, and I'm running the same IC as you, so I'm wondering how you pulled it off.

[GarySheehan]

Gary, what's that tow hook bolted/welded to? I've got IC pipine in the way in there, and I'm running the same IC as you, so I'm wondering how you pulled it off.

It's welded to the chassis frame right under the IC piping. It's where the front bumper structure would normally bolt to.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[sperry]

It's welded to the chassis frame right under the IC piping. It's where the front bumper structure would normally bolt to.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com
That hook must be significantly longer than mine... I think if I welded mine there, it'd stick out about half an inch... looks like I need to get a piece of steel welded in there to attach the hook to.

[doubleurx]

That hook must be significantly longer than mine... I think if I welded mine there, it'd stick out about half an inch... looks like I need to get a piece of steel welded in there to attach the hook to.


Classic! I just assumed mine would still screw in.

[A1337STI]

I should get someone to show me how that works (screwing in the front toe hook thingy)

[cody]

1. Use a coin to pop out the hole cover in the bumper
2. Take towhook from toolbag in trunk and screw into bumper
3. Do not install FMIC

[MattR]

1. Use a coin to pop out the hole cover in the bumper
2. Take towhook from toolbag in trunk and screw into bumper
3. Do not install FMIC

The sti does not have that little cover...Instead, you just remove the entire fog light cover and the hole is exposed.

[cody]

Oh. :oops:

[sperry]

The sti does not have that little cover...Instead, you just remove the entire fog light cover and the hole is exposed.
Either way, I've got a FMIC in the way of my stock tow hook, so I picked up one of these:

http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/img-body/tow-eye.jpg

But I haven't figured a way to mount it yet.

[cody]

I really liked the tow hooks sticking out of one of the Vettes at the autoX last weekend. They were bright green or somthing. Sorry, I know I'm no help.

[ivanko]

It will be tough for the Subaru. Even the Nissan Skyline R34 is having a rough time being competitive in the GT class.

[ivanko]

Btw Scott, where did you get the tow hook?

[sperry]

Btw Scott, where did you get the tow hook?
Primitive Racing... they do a lot of rally type stuff for Subarus, like skid plates and the like:

http://www.get-primitive.com/

[doubleurx]

Primitive Racing... they do a lot of rally type stuff for Subarus, like skid plates and the like:

http://www.get-primitive.com/

Time for some research. I'll look at this also. I do have some steel fabricator resources for a custom piece. I haven't looked at the piping and how it covers the hole.

I still think it's pretty classic that I didn't even realize this problem with the FMIC. At RFR I made a point to take out the tow hook and put it in the car so I would be ready! (on more than one occasion)

[sperry]

I think a steel bracket welded to the frame with holes that allow for the mounting of the above pictured tow hook and a slot cut into the bumper should be fairly straightforward. If I knew how to weld, I'd probably just tackle it myself.

[AtomicLabMonkey]

If I knew how to weld, I'd probably just tackle it myself.

There's only one way to learn!

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55247

:D

[sperry]

There's only one way to learn!

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55247

:D
I tell you, every time I walk by the welders at Lowes, I'm tempted... but frankly, I need to at least read up on welding to know what I need to buy and what the difference is between MIG/TIG/ARC. All I know about welding is that I don't know anything about welding.

[JC]

I tell you, every time I walk by the welders at Lowes, I'm tempted... but frankly, I need to at least read up on welding to know what I need to buy and what the difference is between MIG/TIG/ARC. All I know about welding is that I don't know anything about welding.

All I know is I've done it once and it's a lot harder than it looks. :p Isn't bruspeed a welder?

[zpeed]

It will be tough for the Subaru. Even the Nissan Skyline R34 is having a rough time being competitive in the GT class.
Gary is way better driver than a kid in that Skyline..

[JonnydaJibba]

All I know about welding is that I don't know anything about welding.

HAhahahaha.

[AtomicLabMonkey]

I tell you, every time I walk by the welders at Lowes, I'm tempted... but frankly, I need to at least read up on welding to know what I need to buy and what the difference is between MIG/TIG/ARC. All I know about welding is that I don't know anything about welding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welding

If you end up doing any welding yourself, you'll be doing wire-feed MIG. It's the easiest to use & cheapest of the arc welders. Stick is a pain in the ass (at least I thought it was), because you go through electrodes so fast & have to keep changing them out. TIG makes some sweet-ass welds but a machine is going to be at least $1000, where a light-duty 110v MIG is less than $200.

[A1337STI]

rubber biscuit is a welder

[Dean]

Bump because the race is on from 11-noon today on Speed...

[Dean]

So I'm guessing the team learned alot, and the car survived, so I guess it was a succesful race.

[sperry]

I'm watching the race right now on the DVR. :D

[cody]

Cool Race.

[tysonK]

I saw the last 12 laps. no STi shots!

[Dean]

Best STI shot was the starting of the race...

[sperry]

I gotta say, I'm very impressed that *anyone* is attempting to run an STI in that series. Right now it's sort of a "knife to a gunfight" situation... it's going to take a ton of work to make the necessary power out of a 2.5L 4-banger to match a racebred Viper or Vette. But it looks like the rest of the car is there: handling, reliability, braking, etc.

From what I've gathered the car is running a GT35R turbo on a built motor.... something that a ton of people are running on the street. Which means two things: a) they've got their own development program funded by idiots like us that spend a ton of money on our own cars trying stuff out :lol:, and b) since they're basically running a "streetable" motor right now, changes are there are some gains yet to be made at the expense of reliability and streetability.

Unfortunately, I don't know the WC-GT rules, so I'm not sure what their options are for power adders. Perhaps WI might help, but they're already running the spec 104 octane fuel, so I'm not sure how much there is to gain there. A bigger turbo and more boost is always an option, but then you have to think about anti-lag to combat the slow spool... which may or may not be legal in the series. Hopefully the smart people working on the car will be able to come up with something!

Bottom line is: Gary did a great job getting an STI into World Challenge, and finished the race placing higher than he qualified. You can't ask for anything more than that considering the stage of development of the car. Congrats Gary! :D

[JC]

Good first showing Gary, congrats! Sorry to hear about the brake problems you were having. Have you gotten those sorted out? Did I read somewhere that you were running fans in your brake ducts or am imagining things?

Looks like WC-GT is coming to Road Atlanta in Oct, I'll have to come out and watch.

[JC]

Gary's recap from NASIOC...

OK, well, this is long overdue! I don't even know where to start!

Man, what a ride Long Beach was! Seriously, it felt like the four days I was down there stretched out a couple of weeks. I'm still recovering and I didn't even have to work on the car.

Everything is still pretty much a blur. I'll just put up some random cool memories as they come to me.

World Challenge GT and the Long Beach GP really are big time! On Thursday, John Horton from West Coast Vipers brought us a few scooters to get around the paddock with. Marshall and I took them out on track to do a few recon laps so that Marshall and I could discuss some of the more critical point on the track. So there I am, out surveiling the track, right alongside Christiano Dematta, Adrian Fernandez, Christian Fittipadi, etc., all doing the same thing. Pretty sweet!

After the first lap, Marshall went back to the paddock and I just circulated for several laps, just getting the feel of the track. At one point I noticed a whole gaggle of people standing around the fountain turn after having just piling out of several minivans. I slowed down as I approached them, looking for a way through. As I go through, a little guy in the front gives me a nod and a quick wave. What the hell is Frankie Muniz waving at me for?! He sure as hell doesn't know who I am. I must've looked like a race car driver or something! I make my way through the rest of the Pro Celebrity drivers and move on. Very strange feeling!

Marshall introduced me to Andy Pilgrim, who proceded to share his wealth of WCGT experience with me over the next 15 minutes. What a cool guy! He definitely accelerated my learning curve and provided several points that definitely helped me prepare for my first WCGT race. And he made himself available for me to ask questions throughout the weekend, which I took him up on. What an honor to have the series champion help out the most recent rookie and make him feel welcome. Thanks Andy!

The Cadillac team was gracious enough to have us work out of their trailer with them over the weekend. It was a little odd to be changing into my racing suit mixed in with all these Caddy guys that I didn't know. But they were all really cool, friendly and easy to talk to. David Spitzer is a VERY nice guy and was always willing to listen to what I had to say and offer advice based on his experience. The most awkward moment of the weekend was opening the sliding door into the trailer to meet Ron Fellows in his underwear as he was suiting up for practice. "Hey, sorry about that Ron! Ha, I'm the new guy, can you tell? Just let me know the next time you want to show the world your underwear and I'll be the guy to open the door!" sheesh. Ron was a really nice guy as well.

The waiting just about killed me. These guys head out to grid really early. We get out there and wait. I must've been strapped in for 45 minutes prior to the first practice at 5:30pm on Friday. At least Saturday practice and Sunday qualifying was nice and early in the morning and the wait didn't seem long at all. But race day, holy crap. I'm all keyed up to get out in my first WCGT race and the cars are in pre-grid an hour beforehand. AHHHHH!!!!! But it was a great time to just hang out with the crew and chat. It was one of the few times they weren't busting their asses getting the car ready for a session. Their work was done and they could finally relax a bit. Thanks for all the hard work!

I don't know who it was, but while I was sitting on the starting grid on Shoreline Drive, I distinctly heard someone shout, "Kick some ass, Gary!" or something like that. I don't remember exactly what was yelled out, but I do remember clearly hearing my name and cracking a huge smile. I gave a thumbs up out the window and I hope whoever said it saw it. Thank you, to whoever it was, because I still had that smile plastered on my face as I dumped the clutch when the red lights went out!

Surreal moment. On the parade lap just prior to the start I was going through the Fountain corner and Andy Pilgrim drove right past me on my right, going the opposite direction! WTF?! As I'm radioing in to Marshall to find out what happens to Andy for the start, he goes zipping past me on the left on one of the straights. Craziness.

Speaking of which, I had decided to go to the outside for the race start. Just seemed like the best place to go with the room that we had. Shoreline seems really tight there, so any kind of pass off the line was going to be snug. When the lights went out the STi just WENT! I quickly steered left to get around the Vette in front of me. I was already about to overlap him before he started rolling, but when he did, he came right over on me. I thought I was done. I slammed on the brakes and steered towards the wall as close as I could without hitting it. I still remember waiting for the crunch that never came. When I we were clear of each other, I was nearly stopped and dead last. Oh well.

Turn 1 wasn't nearly the mess I expected it to be. Everyone checked up pretty early, minded their manners and we all got through clean. It was like a really aggressive traffic jam! I got in front of that yellow vette in all the traffic and took a few defensive lines through the next corners to keep him there. All of a sudden, Andy goes past me on the right going in to turn 6. He had to start from pit lane and easily caught up to the pack with how slow we were going through the corners. Then, on the straight, gone!

Our car was really underpowered and overweight for this event, so I settled down to try to turn in some good clean fast laps (as fast as the car would go anyway). I have to say that flying down Shoreline at 140mph with the spectators on the left and pits on the right is a thrilling experience! It became even MORE thrilling when I went for the brakes at my reference point and the pedal went right to the floor. As I released the pedal, it S-L-O-W-L-Y came back up and I pushed it to the floor again. As I waited for the pedal to come up a third time I began the thought process of which tire barrier would be the best one to hit at over 100mph. No panic, just here's the current situation, figure out the best way to deal with it. When I got pedal pressure on the fifth stroke I felt like Marty McFly when he finally got the time machine DeLorean to start after banging his head on the steering wheel in "Back to the Future." I got the car stopped deep in the runoff and radioed in to Marshall that I had no brakes.

When I got the car back on track the brakes were so bad I wasn't sure how I was going to get it back to the pits. It took two full strokes to get any braking for the fountain turn, and another two for the following corner. As I was limping around towards 9, 10 and 11, I had figured out that while I didn't immediately have brakes when I wanted them, when I did finally get them, pedal feel was right and friction felt absolutely normal. So I decided to stay out a lap and experiment.

At the end of the next lap I knew I could keep the car out on track. By the end of the following lap I was getting a feel of how many pedal strokes were required for each corner. Six for turn 1 at 140mph, one for the fountain, one for turn 3, one for turn 4, three for turn 5, etc. By the end of that lap I felt confident enough in the situation to start picking up the pace. Within a couple more laps I was at least back to my qualifying laptime and trying to hustle the car through the apex and corner exit.

It wasn't an exact science. Sometimes I needed an extra pedal stroke into turn one. Sometimes only one braking channel would grab and the car would pull violently to the right or left. There was some excitement when I would let someone go by and tuck in behind them, then start my early braking pumping. One time I was too close to a Porsche and I remember as I was staring at his taillights and pumping the pedal thinking to myself "please don't brake yet, please don't brake yet!" Then, just after I got my brakes back, his brakelights lit up! Whew! The last thing I wanted to do was take out a competitor in my first race!

For the rest of the distance I just raced against the new challenge I had. I learned a lot and came out of it without a scratch on the car and a whole racefull of experience. The entire crew congratulated me and just made me feel great about the whole thing.

It wasn't exactly how we wanted the weekend to go, but we all did a fantastic job as a team and we impressed a lot of important people, including the SCCA and the other drivers.

OK, I'm done for now. Feel free to ask me anything and you'll jog my memory of other stuff worth talking about. Like the time two women came up together and asked me to sign body parts...

Marshall did an amazing job pulling this effort together in such a short amount of time and all of the guys that contributed went well above and beyond the call of duty. Many, many thanks to all involved!!!

Gary
#99 Subaru STi
World Challenge GT

[sperry]

I just watched the end of the race... Ron Fellows is the fucking man. Text book driving: used the handling of his car to setup and beat a faster, more powerful car. Awesome finish.

JC, IIRC the fans on the brake ducts were on the USTCC car, but I could be mistaken.

[MattR]

Ron Fellows is the man, Who passes on the outside on a street circuit? For a part time Cadillac driver, he sure knows that car well.

Anyway, it was great to see Gary in the event, and finishing their first race is a huge accomplishment. Good work.

[GST Mike]

Gary is the man, with the issues after the 3rd lap with the master cylinder to turn the lap times he did is nothing short of amazing.

I am nothing short of proud to have been able part of the team.

Mike

[sperry]

Gary is the man, with the issues after the 3rd lap with the master cylinder to turn the lap times he did is nothing short of amazing.

I am nothing short of proud to have been able part of the team.

Mike
What actually happened to the master cylinder anyway? It held up for the 15 hrs at T-Hill, then the WCGT practices and qualifying... what made it go on L3 of the race? You guys going to switch to a beefier one... or is there no such animal?

[GST Mike]

What makes you think it held up during practice and qualifying? :D We had issues with the braking from the get go and spent the best part of the weekend working on resolving them it was not until the actual race (or after it) that we came to the master cylinder after fixing the ducting and such during the earlier parts of the weekend.

I would imagine they plan to run something better on the next outing.

Mike

[sperry]

What makes you think it held up during practice and qualifying? :D We had issues with the braking from the get go and spent the best part of the weekend working on resolving them it was not until the actual race (or after it) that we came to the master cylinder after fixing the ducting and such during the earlier parts of the weekend.

I would imagine they plan to run something better on the next outing.

Mike
Ahh... I was assuming the problem was a "surprise! no brakes" after hours of flawless track time.

Are you guys running StopTechs front and rear? Will you have an issue w/ brake bias if you switch master cylinders, or are you already running a proportioning valve?

I need a new master cylinder myself (I'm still running the WRX one with STI brakes, so I've got a ton of pedal throw). I'm insterested to hear what you guys come up with for a solution.

[AtomicLabMonkey]

I'm insterested to hear what you guys come up with for a solution.

http://www.tiltonracing.com/images/3ped.jpg

(If they're not already..)

[dustinr]

Watched that race, the STi just seems like a midget among giants. The lap time difference during the race was pretty huge but I'm sure not having any brakes was the majority of the reason.

Does anyone know if the ESX STi is still running the AWD system or is that car now a RWD? What motor are the Porsche's running? NA or turbo? It seems that if the Porsche's can be somewhat competitive then the STi should stand a chance too.

What rules does the Speed GT series have about homologation? Do the cars have to come from a car lot and be built or can they be factory prepped race cars?

It seems you could buy one of the almost turn-key Prodrive Impreza WRC S10 cars and set it up for street and you'd have a pretty competitve package... semi-auto trans and all the bells and whistles.
http://www.prodrive.com/default2.asp?M=368

[sperry]

I doubt a Prodrive WRC car would be legal in WCGT. The sequential gearbox certainly won't be, as the cars are required to run factory specified gear ratios.

Gary's WC car uses the factory STI AWD 6-speed, with factory diffs, etc. It's the same stuff that comes on the car from Subaru. The motor's a built 2.5L with a GT35R turbo on race gas... so they're probably making 400 to 450 hp at the crank.

The Porsches use the 911 GT3's motor IIRC, which is a 3.6L flat-6 making 380 hp in stock trim... figure the race motors are in the 450-500hp range, plus the Porsches are generally the lightest cars out there. And even then, there are a ton of Porsches in the field and yet the races tend to be all Vette, Viper, and CTS-Vs up front... which makes sense, since those cars all make 400 to 500 hp *stock*... figure they're pushing 550 to 600hp in race trim (though the cars are quite heavy).

Gary's car is simply just under-developed at this point. Similar to the Skyline GT-R that's in the series, no one's tried these AWD cars in this series, so the learning curve is very steep. I think Gary mentioned his STI seems capable of keeping up w/ the others in the corners and under braking... the car is just over-weight and underpowered. If they can drop some weight, they should be able to our-turn and out-brake the competition... and then all they need is enough power to keep up on the straights.

I don't think the STI will ever make the power needed to chase down the V8's in the series, but if they can be close, then they should be able to out-handle the big cars, then get the jump on them out of the corners due to the higher cornering speeds plus the AWD traction. Then it's just making the car as "wide" as possible and running a defensive line. When you can run the inside line, and still turn as fast as your opponents, you become very hard to pass. You just have to hope there are no really long straights where the big horsepower cars can eat you alive.

[kidatari]

http://www.tiltonracing.com/images/3ped.jpg

(If they're not already..)

:drool: I want to put a Tilton pedal box in my RS. The AP Racing one is even bettar, but it's like $4k ;)

[JC]

Gary's WC car uses the factory STI AWD 6-speed, with factory diffs, etc. It's the same stuff that comes on the car from Subaru. The motor's a built 2.5L with a GT35R turbo on race gas... so they're probably making 400 to 450 hp at the crank.

Really? I would think a GT35R on race gas should be easily over 550hp at the crank? They are making 500-600 WHP on street cars.

[sperry]

Really? I would think a GT35R on race gas should be easily over 550hp at the crank? They are making 500-600 WHP on street cars.
600 whp? :lol: I don't think anyone is making 600 whp on a "streetable" STI motor. Hell, is anyone even making that much on a dedicated drag car? 600 whp is like 850 hp at the crank... w/o nitrous, meth injection, and a ton of other WCGT illegal bits, no one is anywhere near those numbers.

[JC]

600 whp? :lol: I don't think anyone is making 600 whp on a "streetable" STI motor. Hell, is anyone even making that much on a dedicated drag car? 600 whp is like 850 hp at the crank... w/o nitrous, meth injection, and a ton of other WCGT illegal bits, no one is anywhere near those numbers.

Um, plenty of people are making over 600whp on STis, some are even daily driven. I know there is at least one guy on nasioc running 720whp.

Nasioc is down but here is one running 530whp on pump w/meth injection, they have a one on nasioc putting out 590whp. Granted that's on meth but it's also on pump not race gas. I didn't say the ESX car should make that much, but even with WCGT restrictions more than 400 at the crank should be easily doable. Unless they have to run a decent size restrictor.

http://www.wrxatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4199&highlight=gt35r

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=983345

[Kevin M]

Yeah, but the whole point of TopSpeed's thread was "we're gonna crank the boost and dyno this bitch until it breaks." Not much of a tuning philosophy for a race motor. ;) I think that 400 whp is possible on a race-reliable tune, but that's probably the ceiling. Qualifying tunes might be able to get away with 450-475, but that would be risky.

[JC]

Yeah, but the whole point of TopSpeed's thread was "we're gonna crank the boost and dyno this bitch until it breaks." Not much of a tuning philosophy for a race motor. ;) I think that 400 whp is possible on a race-reliable tune, but that's probably the ceiling. Qualifying tunes might be able to get away with 450-475, but that would be risky.

I didn't say they should be anywhere near 590whp, just that it was doable with a GT35R. But Scott's figure of 400 CRANK hp seems really low to me when there are street motors making way more than that.

[Kevin M]

I didn't say they should be anywhere near 590whp, just that it was doable with a GT35R. But Scott's figure of 400 CRANK hp seems really low to me when there are street motors making way more than that.

Yeah, like Scott's. :p

[sperry]

I didn't say they should be anywhere near 590whp, just that it was doable with a GT35R. But Scott's figure of 400 CRANK hp seems really low to me when there are street motors making way more than that.
I'm sure the turbo can make a pirate's booty load of power... it's got the flow. The question is how to make that power w/o nitrous/WI/MI, and with enough torque and power band to be useful at road racing, all on the supplied 104 octane.

I didn't know there were people approaching 1000hp on the 2.5L motor, but I do know that those cars would be one step from useless on anything with more turns than a drag track due to the huge late power surge. Hell, on my TD05-20G trying to get smooth exits out of a turn at autocross is an exercise in anticipating the boost and letting off the throttle as the power comes in ('course that's more an issue w/ my suspension than anything else). Nevermind the reliability of a motor like that under road race conditions.

My estimate for the current WCGT car of 400-450 was based on hearing that during the T-Hill 25hr qualifying they had an over-boost situation of like 26 psi where they estimated they were making like 650 hp. Since the WC tune is at much less boost, I figured 450hp would be a pretty realistic number. I doubt they're making much over 350 to 375 at the wheels (at least that's what I would have tuned it for if I was attempting for some semblance or reliability since I don't believe they have spare motors on the hauler at this point) which is still at or under about 500 crank hp, which is still just equalling the *stock* horsepower of the Vettes and Vipers. :eek:

[GST Mike]

Well based on the fact that the cars with the numbers being quoted within this thread all still run around the 122-126whp with there huge 530whp+ power numbers I would say that the numbers being quoted as WHP are useless.

What I am getting at is that on the dyno this car was tuned one (The ESX car that is) 400whp with a reasonable driver will run 11.4-11.6 at 120-124mph so you should be able to work out where the difference in quoted WHP is coming from. The last time the ESX car hit the rollers it span them to a little less than 400whp. The car is only allowed to run 22psi and was only running at the most 21psi all weekend (we have issues if the car goes over 22psi!).

Something else to remember when referencing street cars with C16 and meth and 30psi is that this car runs nothing better than 104 octane and has to with stand 50 minute races not mid to low 11 second passes.

Mike

[JC]

Well based on the fact that the cars with the numbers being quoted within this thread all still run around the 122-126whp with there huge 530whp+ power numbers I would say that the numbers being quoted as WHP are useless.

I assume you mean 122-126 trap speed? Not to stand up for Topspeed but keep in mind our high here yesterday was 88F, heat and high humidity are certainly going to affect trap times. The car making 720whp ran a 10.2 w/ N20 and 2 people in the car, should be a 9 sec car at some point soon. So I wouldn't say they are useless. I'm well aware that a road course car isn't going to put anywhere near those numbers, my only point was that a turbo that can flow damn near 1000hp on the same motor + power adders should be able to add more than a 100hp on a race setup. In no way was I trying to say you should be able to make more power than you are right now. Just trying to get a decent guess of where you are at.

The last time the ESX car hit the rollers it span them to a little less than 400whp. The car is only allowed to run 22psi and was only running at the most 21psi all weekend (we have issues if the car goes over 22psi!).

Mike

Well that answers that, it's nice having the guy who tunes the car on the board. :) Do they make you guys run a restrictor?

[GST Mike]

Firstly the GT35 wont flow enough air for 1000hp regardless of what else is done to the car. Basically I equate a mid to low 10 second car as a 500whp car certainly not 700whp. I guess it again falls down to the measuring stick used.

The car does not run a restrictor it just has restriction placed on it by the SCCA, at this time that restriction is 22psi and 8,000rpm using the current motor/turbo setup.

Mike

[Kevin M]

How do they enforce the boost limit?

[sperry]

How do they enforce the boost limit?
.45 and a shovel. :lol:


edit: and now that Gary and Mike are back on this thread, it's time to put the ass into all of us making assumptions. :lol:

[MPREZIV]

remember: when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of YOU and UMPTION! I ain't no ass!

[GST Mike]

How do they enforce the boost limit?

Well the ESX car is equiped with a Motec ADL2 and the logs are pulled by the SCCA, I think there is a requirement for them to add a Stack device that monitors several items one of which being MAP.

Mike

[sperry]

Well the ESX car is equiped with a Motec ADL2 and the logs are pulled by the SCCA, I think there is a requirement for them to add a Stack device that monitors several items one of which being MAP.

Mike
After watching how down on power you and the Skyline are, you think WC is going to up your boost allowance for the next event? SCCA seemed very willing to work with Mazda a few years back to make their 133hp Proteges competative in a class w/ a bunch of 220hp cars in WCTC... hopefully they'll give the same considerations to the new cars in GT this season.

[Kevin M]

Well the ESX car is equiped with a Motec ADL2 and the logs are pulled by the SCCA, I think there is a requirement for them to add a Stack device that monitors several items one of which being MAP.

Mike

I kinda figured. But wouldn't it be possible to fudge the MAP and make 25 psi look like 22? I know you said the car can't really go that high yet, but you know what I mean.

[GST Mike]

I kinda figured. But wouldn't it be possible to fudge the MAP and make 25 psi look like 22? I know you said the car can't really go that high yet, but you know what I mean.

I am sure there are ways but from what I am told the Stack unit is basically a unit built to spec for SCCA and they check it's implementation and pull it's logs directly.