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Starting this thread so there is a consistent place for NASCAR discussions kind of like the F1 thread only without all the attitude. :)
JPM is coming... I was really impressed with his performance at Indy this weekend. Qualified and ran very well. I don't think he is going to make the chase this year, but it would be so cool if he did.
If his team can keep giving him the cars, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets his first oval win this year. You could tell he really wanted it yesterday.
Damn Smoke just had too good of a car. Though "Here Kitty, Kitty" was some funny $41+! And taking both hands off the wheel to get a drink... Now that is relaxed and a car you can trust...
AtomicLabMonkey
2007-07-30, 09:19 AM
I think you're deluded if you expect a motorsports discussion thread on this board devoid of snarkiness. :D
Pat R.
2007-07-30, 03:33 PM
I was never a JPM fan when he was in F1 but I find myself cheering for him on the ovals.
sybir
2007-08-02, 12:55 PM
I'm adding to the discussion :p
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/nascar_coach_reveals_winning
*runs*
MPREZIV
2007-08-02, 01:01 PM
"turnin' left... goin' straight... turnin' left... then goin' straight again"
Oh shit that's hilarious!!! :lol:
Go straighter...
Wouldn't work for this week's Busch race.
http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/img/NASCAR/TrackDiagrams/169/46.gif
Or next week's Watkins Glen.
MattR
2007-08-02, 04:12 PM
Wow, the list of Road Race talent is huge this weekend, Max papis, Andy Lally, Patrick Carpentier, damn.
Kevin M
2007-08-02, 04:12 PM
Is that Cup or Busch?
Wow, the list of Road Race talent is huge this weekend, Max papis, Andy Lally, Patrick Carpentier, damn.I know. I can't decide what to DVR. That race, or X-Games. I may have to fire up one of them there VCR thingamajigers.
MattR
2007-08-02, 04:31 PM
Nick, It's Busch Series... Also, looks like Ambrose is 3rd on the Speed chart after final practice. Hell yeah.
Nick Koan
2007-08-02, 04:31 PM
Is that Cup or Busch?
Busch.
I know. I can't decide what to DVR. That race, or X-Games. I may have to fire up one of them there VCR thingamajigers.
Time to upgrade the DVR to dual tuners it sounds like.
sperry
2007-08-02, 04:33 PM
I know. I can't decide what to DVR. That race, or X-Games. I may have to fire up one of them there VCR thingamajigers.
What kinda DVR can't record two things at once? Are you living in Feb of 2007 or what!? Get with the times man... it's August! :P
Nick Koan
2007-08-03, 11:45 AM
For all you NASCAR guys,
Greg Biffle is running a Wii stickered Fusion at Dover in September. Nintendo is giving away two tickets to the race, plus a chance to play Wii Sports agains Biffle.
http://www.nintendo.com/sweepstakes?id=xqS-qIYmqv4iR4SYQ3JomjZPs8P8Wo0F
MattR
2007-08-04, 04:24 PM
Leave it to Robby Gordon to embarrass himself and ruin the race for everyone. Marcos should have passed him clean though, he would have gotten him..I was pulling for Marcos, I thought he had it, but it just turned into a dirty crashfest at the end. Well, should be an interesting race next weekend when they go to Watkins glen.
sperry
2007-08-04, 09:30 PM
Man, all I saw was the end of the Arca Pocono race... which was actually really sweet. Leader ran out of fuel coming off 3 on the last lap, just yards from the finish. Pretty amazing.
Leave it to Robby Gordon to embarrass himself and ruin the race for everyone. Marcos should have passed him clean though, he would have gotten him..I was pulling for Marcos, I thought he had it, but it just turned into a dirty crashfest at the end. Well, should be an interesting race next weekend when they go to Watkins glen.Wow... I really like Robby until now. I bet he gets slapped hard by NASCAR. I'm amazed there is no in-car that shows his magic pass complete with fender crumpling of Marcos.
Joeyy
2007-08-07, 01:36 PM
Attention one and all, Kyle Bush is going to be Tony Stewart's new team mate!...:D
sperry
2007-08-07, 02:14 PM
Attention one and all, Kyle Bush is going to Tony Stewart's team mate!...:D
What's he going to do to Tony Stewart's teammate?
Joeyy
2007-08-07, 02:16 PM
What's he going to do to Tony Stewart's teammate?
Edit:oops:
MattR
2007-08-07, 05:01 PM
yeah, Hopefully Gibbs will give that POS JJ Yeley the boot. JJ needs to go back to sprint cars.
MattR
2007-08-07, 10:45 PM
In a strange twist if events, Robby Gordon's Nextel Cup team will be fielding a secong car in the Cup race at the Glen this coming weekend, the driver named...Marcos Ambrose. I peace offering according to Robby. Now that's some cool shit. The #77 Ford will be entered and driven by Marcos. Of course, he is not guaranteed a spot in the race, so he has to get in on time. Shouldn't be a big issue given the pace he's shown in road races thus far. I can tell Robby and Marcos have a mutual respect, they are both fierce competitors. Anone who's seen V8supercar racing in recent years knows what a competitor Marcos can be.
Kevin M
2007-08-07, 11:28 PM
Gordon owns his team right? So that means he's not simply under orders from the management to not act like a douche, and is makign this happen on his own? Why can't he think like that behind the wheel? :lol:
Gordon owns his team right? So that means he's not simply under orders from the management to not act like a douche, and is makign this happen on his own? Why can't he think like that behind the wheel? :lol:I think being an owner/driver is part of the reason he acts teh way he does. No serious business owner would want him as a driver. I am amazed he can get sponsors with the crap he pulled last weekend in Canada.
I still haven't watched Pocono yet.
MattR
2007-08-08, 09:20 AM
You're not missing much in the Pocono Race. Pretty boring actually. Little passing, no strategy, run away winner.
You're not missing much in the Pocono Race. Pretty boring actually. Little passing, no strategy, run away winner.I don't know, changing a shock mid race and coming back through the field to finish in second yet still falling out of the top 12 in points is pretty interesting. :D
The glen should be fun today, though I don't like that qualifying was rained out.
But Boris gets to race in Bill Elliot's car. Bill is a class act to give up his seat for the team. Take that F1.... SNAP!
NASCAR needs to fix qualifying though. They could have fit it in, or at least run the 36-40+ cars in points. this top 35 stuff is BS. Make it top 12 and everybody else has to run for it and be flexible as to when it is and even make it an impound race if needed.
Qualifying is more important than 2 practices. Heck, roll it out of th truck, qualify and race... Busch does more or less.
P.S. I am getting sick of Robby Gordon. Won't admit he was an A-Hole and quoting rules from 3 years ago. Shut up and admit you were wrong.
Watkins Glen!!!!
Wow! Great race! Road courses rule!
Turn 1 = Spin and/or Win, depends on who and when???
Power sliding through the gravel on the last lap can get you a top 10, but only if you are in second when you do it!!!
Jr. loses an engine an Kurt ends up 11th. ouch.
Boris ends up 14th in Bill's car.
Harvick and Montoya duke it out.
Don't get this kind of entertainment from F1. :cool:
MattR
2007-08-12, 03:07 PM
Harvick over-reacted as usual. Truex punted Montoya causing him to take out Harvick. Great race though. I am constantly reminded of how good J Gordon and Stewart are on RC's.
MattR
2007-08-12, 03:08 PM
BTW, I think Boris would have run the race entirely differently if he were in it to win it. But the Woods Bros 21 car really needed a good points day to get back in to the top 35 in points, and Boris did a great job running smooth and steady.
BTW, I think Boris would have run the race entirely differently if he were in it to win it. But the Woods Bros 21 car really needed a good points day to get back in to the top 35 in points, and Boris did a great job running smooth and steady.I agree completely. He did exactly what they needed. He would lose 4 spots going into turn 1 after restarts keeping out of the fray and then take 2-5 laps to get them back. Even let Kurt or was it Robby go around rather than fighting with him.
AtomicLabMonkey
2007-08-13, 11:22 AM
NASCAR needs to fix qualifying though. They could have fit it in, or at least run the 36-40+ cars in points. this top 35 stuff is BS. Make it top 12 and everybody else has to run for it and be flexible as to when it is and even make it an impound race if needed.
It's pretty ridiculous. I know one of the engineers over at Michael Waltrip's operation and he said the qual rules have cost them getting into the field multiple times this year, when they would have gotten in purely on time like a normal race series. :rolleyes:
Joeyy
2007-08-20, 06:22 PM
And it rained....
And then it rained some more....
Maby we'll race on Tuesday. Nascar hasn't had a delay that caused them to race on Tuesday sense the 70s. I heard the RV area turned into a Mud Slingging Festival (Woodstock Nascar Style).
7am ESPN2. I just set my dvr to record "first take" + 2hours.
They are saying they could run Wednesday if they have to, otherwise it is November!?!?
Joeyy
2007-08-20, 06:50 PM
7am ESPN2. I just set my dvr to record "first take" + 2hours.
They are saying they could run Wednesday if they have to, otherwise it is November!?!?
Michigan in November. Ha, maby we'll see some more snow angels from Kurt Bush.
Joeyy
2007-08-22, 04:50 PM
The trucks are starting at Bristol at the top of the hour. They're hoping for two wide racing with the new surface and banking. I think some equipment is still going to get messed up.
MattR
2007-08-22, 06:25 PM
Oh yeah, it should be pretty crazy, I think the speeds are up quite a bit too, due to increased grip all around.
damn, what the H are they doing on wed.... I bet my dvr missed it... speed replay, here we come...
Joeyy
2007-08-23, 12:31 PM
Yes!... They can finally pass without using there bumpers. Hope the great race that the trucks put on doesn't show up the Nextel boys. My only opinion, K. Bush needs to behave around trucks that are racing for points and the win.
:banana: DVR caught it... Cool race. Looks Bristol will be much mroe interesting. As Daryl said, It is exactly the same only different.
If trucks can go 2 wide, I would look for the Busch or Nextel boys to try 3! Should be a good weekend of bumpin' and bangin'.
Joeyy
2007-08-24, 03:21 PM
Busch Series qualifies faster then Nextel Cup again. Additionally, an ASA car kicked all there times with an almost 15 sec flat run on the new surface.
OK, Bristol has moved way up my favorite track list. 2 & 3 wide racing and green flag pit stops and battles all the way up and down the field and mostly clean racing! Long enough runs that enough people got lapped so the tiny pit lane was a mostly non-issue.
This can't be Bristol!
Great job redoing the track. I like the attention to detail as well. They dyed the lower part of the concrete black to keep the old look of the asphalt that had way less grip and the drivers hated.
Nick Koan
2007-08-25, 11:28 PM
Looks like Jacques Villeneuve will be racing in the Nextel Cup next year, and doing a few races this year in Craftsman Truck Series.
http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/08/24/jvilleneuve.bdavis.cup/
Joeyy
2007-08-31, 05:40 PM
More current information on Villenueuve after completing testing.
http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/truck/08/28/jvilleneuve.slabbe.chicago.test/index.html
This "chase" is going to be good. 12 very good teams duking it out.
Kyle with the pit strategy to finish 4th and Boyer moving up 8 spots with the dominating win.
Ye hah!
sperry
2007-09-19, 02:02 PM
:lol:
Dale Jr. will be in the #88 Mt. Dew Amp car next season.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aLfJ5s_avRVw&refer=home
tysonK
2007-09-23, 04:52 PM
first race for jacque villeneuve in NCTS!
looks like he had fun.
MattR
2007-09-23, 06:47 PM
JV held his own, he's definately taking this thing seriously...
Also, in Cup, what was with the Talladega wreck at Dover...Damn.
tysonK
2007-09-23, 06:59 PM
yeah that was massive
Just finished watching. That was quite a last 50 laps or so.
8 cars on the lead lap. Jeff Burton gets my vote for the MVP. Down 1 or more laps how many times and ends up 7th!!!
AtomicLabMonkey
2007-09-24, 06:02 AM
:lol:
Dale Jr. will be in the #88 Mt. Dew Amp car next season.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aLfJ5s_avRVw&refer=home
"Merchandise bearing the ``88'' was available on Earnhardt's Web site within an hour of the announcement."
Wow. The marketing/merchandising/hype machine that is NASCAR is unbelievable.
MattR
2007-09-24, 07:39 AM
Looks like race winner Carl Edwards' car failed post-race inspection for being below the minimum required height. This could really hurt his chase chances depending on what kind of points penalty they lay down.
http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/09/23/cedwards.fail.inspection.dover/index.html
Max points unless they find something super intentional appears to be 25 points. Would move him from 4th to 6th.
tysonK
2007-09-30, 06:17 PM
wtf Kansas.
That was a messed up race.
You know what they are going to be saying next week... We're not in Kansas any more.... :)
MattR
2007-09-30, 08:40 PM
Yeah, I think that finish was embarrassing.
Thinking about it, the majority of the Kansas crashes were due to the "old" car. If it had been a COT race, the bumpers would have lined up and the spins and hood damage likely wouldn't have happened.
I think this was the last race for the old car, but might be mistaken. I say goodbye and good riddance though if it was.
The new car is safer, requires more driver skill and so far has produced some great racing IMHO.
Talladega next week!
Joeyy
2007-10-05, 08:05 PM
Every driver interviewed said the same thing after practice today. "I can't see!" They can't see out the back of the car and can't look through the car in front of them.
The drivers asked Nascar to make the wicker on the rear wing clear after the first test of the COT at Dega but nothing was done. Now they're all running down to the local Target store and purchasing all kinds of extra mirrors.
On a possitive note. Scott Speed did very well in the Arca race today. Go Scott!... Currently, I think he's scheduled to run the full Arca schedule in 08.
http://www.arcaracing.com/component/option,com_schedule/task,view/id,1126/Itemid,164/
Talladega was the worst race so far this season.
The first 10-20 laps and the last 10-20 laps were the only ones worth watching.
Super speedways, restrictor plates and gear rules suck!
It was like watching the same 43 car freight train go by 188 times.
[insert bored or snoring smiley that we don't have here.]
skimonkey30
2007-10-08, 12:22 PM
I fast forwarded through most of the race this weekend as I couldnt stand to watch the "freight train"
I think I watched maybe 60 laps total. NASCAR needs to do something to make the super speedway racing with the COT more interesting
MattR
2007-10-08, 12:38 PM
I totally agree. Even Dale Jr said it sucked before his engine dropped.
I fast forwarded through most of the race this weekend as I couldnt stand to watch the "freight train"
I think I watched maybe 60 laps total. NASCAR needs to do something to make the super speedway racing with the COT more interestingIt's not the COT, it is the restrictor plate, the gear rule and the fact that super speedways are just too damn big to be interesting. The old car wasn't any better, it just didn't have the same downforce so there were more crashes, not more competition.
AtomicLabMonkey
2007-10-08, 07:56 PM
They've needed to do the same damned thing for years, and they refuse to do it - take off the restrictor plates, and give the bodies more drag & less downforce to keep the lap speeds down. There were great races at Talladega & Daytona 20 years ago before plates, and they were run with boxy, draggy cars. It's not like there have been any other fundamental advances in Cup car design; the big gains in speed have mostly come from aerodynamics because everything else has been so limited by the rulebook.
sperry
2007-10-08, 08:07 PM
They've needed to do the same damned thing for years, and they refuse to do it - take off the restrictor plates, and give the bodies more drag & less downforce to keep the lap speeds down. There were great races at Talladega & Daytona 20 years ago before plates, and they were run with boxy, draggy cars. It's not like there have been any other fundamental advances in Cup car design; the big gains in speed have mostly come from aerodynamics because everything else has been so limited by the rulebook.
They just need to run parachutes on the cars.
Another short track COT weekend at Martinsville...
I hope the race is as good as Bristol. I know a bunch of people didn't like it, but I thought it was great.
The track being flatter may make it more difficult to get 3 wide all the way around, but maybe not.
Joeyy
2007-10-20, 06:31 PM
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER...
The trucks had a freakin slam fest today. Our boy from north of the border got down right punted and took a hard hit into the inside wall. Nextel Cup points could really get fudged up if tomarrow is the same.
That is what is known as a Cluster Truck! Times 2.
They really should have progressive banked this track like Bristol when they repaved it.
MattR
2007-10-21, 05:29 PM
Yes, I don't watch Martinsville races with any interest anymore, there is no way to pass, so everyone just bumps cars around. I mean, come on...21 cautions today :rolleyes: that's not fun to watch. They need to redo this track or remove it from the schedule. It looked like the stands were less than half full today, that should tell NASCAR something.
Joeyy
2007-10-21, 05:34 PM
Rowdy Bush actually was making the kinda second lane work well for him until he got up to the top five cars. Hope he gets some good equipment next year and the team can figure out the Toyota.
NASCAR has got to get rid of these 1 groove only way to pass is to push the guy in front of you out of the way tracks.
Today's Busch race was just plain stupid. 25 cautions and almost 1/2 the laps under yellow... :rolleyes:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want more 3 wide clean racing like Bristol.
AtomicLabMonkey
2007-10-28, 02:18 AM
I want more 3 wide clean racing like Bristol.
Now there's something I never thought I'd hear.
MattR
2007-10-28, 11:29 AM
It's true...That race at Memphis was a sham! embarrassing even. Anytime a race has that many incidents, it loses all flow, most strategy, and drags. I've seen some good races at mempis, but after yesterday, damn, I doubt I'l sit through another one.
Now there's something I never thought I'd hear.I know, who'd have thunk it? I think it stunned so many of the Bristol fans that the didn't recognize how good the racing was since there were so few crashes.
Short of the road courses, it was some of the best damn racing I've seen in quite a while. In many ways it was better than the road courses. Where else can you drive 3 wide all the way around the track and be the fastest in any of those lanes. Incredible.
MattR
2007-10-28, 03:37 PM
OMG! Atlanta was another Circus finish...Denny Hamlin's crew chief should be fired for his stupididty...Nice to take out all those good cars based on a fuel calculation that left them 3 laps short :rolleyes: What a bone-head move that was. You cannot gamble on your fuel when it leaves you in a position at the HEAD of the pack, and run out of gas at the restart....Dumbass.
Anyway, Yimmy-Yay is always in the right place at the right time...that's why they are the best team. I think the 48 is on his way to a repeat championship...but I'm still pulling for the 07 in '07.
They gamble like that all the time. It is Denny's fault IMHO. He should have been turning the car on and off and driven around the apron like Tony Stewart did a few races back when they were hoping for a rain out wherever it was. He waited until 100 yards before the start to wiggle the car.
WTF happened to Jr.s wheel Did they even tighten the lugs?
I feel really bad for Truex. He and Kyle were driving with the tails hung out most of the race and then he can't see Denny hasn't gone. All he sees is Boyer take off as he cuts in front of him and around Denny and he eats Denny's back end. His spotter should have been talking to him as far back as he was at that point.
If anybody should be fired it is these jack men that aren't getting the cars off the f'ing ground enough for the tire changers. Most of the front runners got boned by their pit crews at least once, but I think Kyle and Kurt both had multiple F' ups.
Clint needs Jeff and Jimmy to both have at least one really bad race to have a prayer, but it would be good to see him win.
Joeyy
2007-11-10, 01:06 PM
Yes!.. Jacques Villeneuve qualifies for his first Nextel Cup race at Phoenix.
Jimmy and Jeff qualified near the front and with only 30 between them with two races to go.
Joeyy
2008-01-10, 01:07 AM
Ok, on to 2008. I wanted to cheer on Villeneuve this year but then I found this on Youtube. Not totally sure if I'm ok with this. At this time, he's still looking for a sponsor if I'm not mistaken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REAqrXxLuVY&feature=related
zpeed
2008-01-10, 08:20 AM
He's da man.
AtomicLabMonkey
2008-01-10, 10:32 AM
Ok, on to 2008. I wanted to cheer on Villeneuve this year but then I found this on Youtube. Not totally sure if I'm ok with this. At this time, he's still looking for a sponsor if I'm not mistaken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REAqrXxLuVY&feature=related
:lol:
He needs one of his man cards revoked for that.
Nick Koan
2008-01-10, 10:35 AM
Eh, he's French Canadian.
That's two mancards automatically revoked.
That's two mancards automatically revoked.What??? Not even...
Classic rag top, hot woman in red silk, he gets my vote. Damn Frenchies with their sexy language get all the hot babes. :)
Joeyy
2008-01-10, 12:15 PM
They had some drafting practice at Daytona this week or last. A driver was behind Villeneuve in the draft and said he was impressed. Guess he saw a couple of great saves with Villeneuve never lifting.
I'm going to add Villeneuve to my league pick at least. Figure being a rookie he may not cost that many points to pick.
MattR
2008-06-17, 08:53 PM
Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Former Aussie V8 Supercar champ Marcos Ambrose will make his Sprint Cup debut at Infineon Raceway this weekend in the Save Mart 300! The cup cars are fantastic on the road courses...Marcos will be driving the #21 Little Debbie Ford. Also in the field are Scott Pruett, Ron Fellows, Dario Franchitti, JPM, so it should be a blast to watch. Sunday on TNT
AtomicLabMonkey
2008-06-21, 05:57 AM
Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Former Aussie V8 Supercar champ Marcos Ambrose will make his Sprint Cup debut at Infineon Raceway this weekend in the Save Mart 300! The cup cars are fantastic on the road courses...Marcos will be driving the #21 Little Debbie Ford. Also in the field are Scott Pruett, Ron Fellows, Dario Franchitti, JPM, so it should be a blast to watch. Sunday on TNT
Are you fucking kidding me? One of the TWO road courses they run all year, and they put it on cable instead of network? I hate NASCAR. :mad:
Tahoe C5
2008-06-21, 06:47 AM
Are you fucking kidding me? One of the TWO road courses they run all year, and they put it on cable instead of network? I hate NASCAR. :mad:
+1
NASCAR just accepted the highest bid, and if you haven't noticed, the "Networks" are dinosaurs losing more and more market share to "Cable". It is not because Cable is stealing them, they earned them by having the programing people want to watch. Blame the Networks if anybody for not shelling out for what people want to see.
Discovery, Sci-Fi, History, Speed, CNBC... I would guess these make up 90% of my viewing time with the remainder split between other cable and network stations. The networks think we want to watch things like The Bachlorette, The Mole, Desperate Housewives, and the other merde de jour...
Thanks, but no thanks.
Don't think they have a good enough cup team with Jr., Jeff and Jimmy?
OK, thrown in a FULL TIME RIDE for Mark Martin in the 5 car in '09!!!
Talk about a force to be reckoned with.
I like Mark, but probably just because I am old... :)
skimonkey30
2008-07-05, 06:38 PM
Great we have "wide open" coverage with less commercials but a huge advertisement bar that takes up 1/4 of the screen throughout the whole race and advertisements during race coverage. :rolleyes:
I hate TNT's Nascar coverage :mad:
oh and kyle petty is fucking annoying
MattR
2008-07-05, 06:43 PM
OMG TNT's coverage fucking sucks, I can't take it. Why can't FOX do the whole season?
I kinda like the letterboxed view. For those of us still with low def TVs, it is nice to have the extra width. Kyle is annoying. I have to go get a free Coke Zero though on him... :)
sybir
2008-07-29, 04:23 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/news/story?id=3509759&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
That's correct.
Right side tires were wearing heavily at the Brickyard.
NASCAR has vowed to get to the bottom of the issue.
Seriously?
I want that job.
"Yeah, uh, we're still in initial investigations, this is going to take some time. No immediate causes are apparent."
what the christ.
sperry
2008-07-30, 12:00 AM
At least more than 6 cars raced.
sybir
2008-07-30, 12:51 AM
This is true :D
I'm watching that race now, and OMG... What a Cluster!
Nothing quite like a tire that might last 5-10 laps... Maybe... This is going to be a long race...
The funniest part is the constant Goodyear "Ads" during the telecast by the announcers talking about innovation, etc... HA :lol:
MattR
2008-08-02, 10:41 AM
Just fast-forward to the last 15 lap, the rest of the race totally sucks. Nothing happens.
It wasn't that bad, but definitely wasn't anything to write home about...
Now the Nationwide series running in the RAIN on 7 year old rain tires on the road course in Canada... Now there is a race!!!
MattR
2008-08-02, 10:13 PM
Goddam, too bad Marcos doesn't have any luck, he put on a driving clinic today.
Goddam, too bad Marcos doesn't have any luck, he put on a driving clinic today.The yellows didn't help, but he did it to himself by speeding on pit lane...
Joeyy
2008-08-03, 12:37 PM
Somebody should have been sponsored by RainX.
Somebody should have been sponsored by RainX.Yea, they need to work on their wiper-wind tunnel testing...
Joeyy
2008-08-04, 11:05 AM
Yea, they need to work on their wiper-wind tunnel testing...
I rarely even use my windshield wipers on the freeway becasue I have so much RainX on my windshield. Just down on city streets going slow with peds around do I use my windshield wipers.
Bristol!!! Tonight (Friday) & Saturday night!!!
Racing should be great!
JPM = "The fastest 40th place guy here!" -Kyle Busch :lol:
MattR
2008-08-23, 06:21 PM
JPM = "The fastest 40th place guy here!" -Kyle Busch :lol:
That made me laugh, but it is very true... Great racing so far. :cool:
That made me laugh, but it is very true... Great racing so far. :cool:JPM probably got more air time than any other driver outside the top 3-5... Way to make the sponsors happy. Ended up a respectable 19th.
Great race. Bristol remains my favorite oval.
More JPM.... Having a great race and then apparently he pissed some racing god off! :(
And can you stop Jimmy Johnson? I don't think so... What a great team effort. Chad made a great tire call at the end of the race...
MattR
2008-10-26, 06:02 PM
JPM has the worst luck in all of racing. It's good to see his car is finally competitive in the last 5 races of the year. Marcos Ambrose was in the field today as well in a Michael Waltrip car, he ran well.
Ok, Jamie McMurray needs to go kick ass in Formula D!!!
He just drifted his Cup car for about 8-10 seconds around LVMS at about 180MPH!!! (Lap 67)
It was quite impressive, though he did get some help initiating it. :)
MattR
2009-03-01, 04:17 PM
Ok, Jamie McMurray needs to go kick ass in Formula D!!!
He just drifted his Cup car for about 8-10 seconds around LVMS at about 180MPH!!! (Lap 67)
It was quite impressive, though he did get some help initiating it. :)
That was insane, I was impressed.
Here it is on YouTube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MR2dqeoPI
Joeyy
2009-03-19, 09:58 AM
Lets see how Scott does on a short track. He'll have to race his way in to this one, now that he's out of the top 35 in points.
Joeyy
2009-03-19, 09:59 AM
Here it is on YouTube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MR2dqeoPI
He saved it because he drives karts in the off season.:)
MattR
2009-03-19, 12:39 PM
Lets see how Scott does on a short track. He'll have to race his way in to this one, now that he's out of the top 35 in points.
No, I think they have one more race to go before they go to the 09 owners points.
One Word: Bristol!
Next best thing to a road course.
Should be a great weekend.
MattR
2009-03-21, 10:14 AM
I have a mean headcold this weekend, I'm not leaving the house. In fact, I may die. But, besides the Bristol races, the 12 hours of Sebring is on, Speed is showing over 9 hours of the race, so that should make me feel better. Go Audi!
Also, Dean, tonight at 3pm, there is an old-timers race from Bristol! I've heard Rusty Wallace, Junior Johnson, David Pearson are getting in cars to run a short race tonight. Should be a fun event.
Damn, Damn, Damn...
JPM throws away an easy win and Mark Martin lets that damn punk kid Johnson get by him. ;)
Why in the hell would you run anywhere near the pit lane speed limit when you have a 5 second lead and a dominant car. :rolleyes: He only has himself to blame, and swearing on your wife and child that you didn't do it doesn't make it so. :(
I actually really like Jimmy, but am required by AARP to root for Mark. ;) (Who I actually really like as well.)
The chase is going to be very interesting this year I do believe.
Now I'm watching F1 where again, the single wheel nut scheme fails. :rolleyes: A couple more people fall out and the new kid might score a point. ;)
It is very lonely in this thread. :(
Come on, I know some of you are watching....
Watkins Glen had two good races. Montreal is coming up so you can watch them turn right and left.
Hope it rains in montreal again! Stock cars on wets seperate the men from the boys.
To throw out another topic or three...
Should there be a road course in the chase?
Do you like restrictor plate racing?
Should they take some of the boring 1.5 mile and longer cookie cutter ovals and throw in the inside road course sections that ALMS and such use on a couple? That might encourage some of the oval fans to like road racing more...
I hope a Toyota wins Michigan! :devil:
On a side note: The WG Sprint Cup race is a perfect example of why many "club" track events don't allow passing in the corners... No matter how good the two people are, mistakes are made and $41+ happens! What was going to be a nice clean pass turns into a red flag mess with car parts everywhere.
Toyota wins in Michigan on fuel mileage over the big three, what an metaphor for the auto industry in general.
tysonK
2009-08-16, 03:41 PM
I'll watch again when it's back on abc or fox or whatever.
MattR
2009-08-16, 03:50 PM
Red Bull! Finally...Nice win for Vickers.
sperry
2009-08-16, 04:24 PM
Toyota wins in Michigan on fuel mileage over the big three, what an metaphor for the auto industry in general.
Maybe a metaphor of the auto industry in 1973. Unless you're suggesting Toyota won because the other race teams spent too much money building race haulers instead of race cars while paying pensions to Richard Petty, Darryl Waltrip, and Dale Jarrett.
I guess my point is that winning a race on fuel mileage in NASCAR is more "winning a race because you got luck and the cautions worked out to allow you to apply your tiny fuel mileage advantage" rather than "finishing the race with 12 less pit stops because your diesel is so much more efficient" like winning a race on fuel mileage is at Le Mans, for example. I'm never all that impressed by "fuel mileage victories" in NASCAR.
/nascar humbug
I guess my point is that winning a race on fuel mileage in NASCAR is more "winning a race because you got luck and the cautions worked out to allow you to apply your tiny fuel mileage advantage" rather than "finishing the race with 12 less pit stops because your diesel is so much more efficient" like winning a race on fuel mileage is at Le Mans, for example. I'm never all that impressed by "fuel mileage victories" in NASCAR.I am a little surprised to read this considering how much F-1 relies on fuel and pit strategy which appears to be what you are bashing. Am I missing something, or do you dislike that in F-1 as well?
And in this case, many of the leaders pitted at the same time. They Toyota and its driver used less fuel than the competition over the same number of laps.
It was also a pretty good race form a competition and passing perspective. :P
sperry
2009-08-16, 10:05 PM
I am a little surprised to read this considering how much F-1 relies on fuel and pit strategy which appears to be what you are bashing. Am I missing something, or do you dislike that in F-1 as well?
And in this case, many of the leaders pitted at the same time. They Toyota and its driver used less fuel than the competition over the same number of laps.
It was also a pretty good race form a competition and passing perspective. :P
F1 doesn't really have any strategy with fuel mileage. If they want to get 5 extra mpg, the just turn a knob on the wheel and get it, what with modern fuel injected motors and all. Only once I've seen someone lose positions over lack of fuel, and that was because Massa's pit crew failed to put in the right amount of fuel at the last stop. Plus, the cars have such large tanks and the races are so short they can run a whole round on one fill up if they want to. So in F1, it's not really "fuel mileage" that makes a difference, it's just "fuel strategy", which is the balance between how often they stop vs. the penalty for carrying more weight. Sure, getting better mileage gets you more laps for the weight of the fuel, but it's such a small difference that plenty of other factors obscure the advantage.
It's pretty much the same deal in NASCAR as in F1 regarding the fuel mileage "advantage", but with their "small" fuel tank size NASCAR has a real opportunity to make fuel mileage actually matter, if only they were to allow higher tech motors. But as it is, a fuel mileage "advantage" in NASCAR usually only comes up when there's a caution 15 laps from the finish when 14 laps is a full fuel run. Then the team with the tiny bit better mileage eeks out just more lap while everyone else does a splash and go... which is often negated by another caution with 5 to go allows all the "bad" mileage cars to get their splash *and* new tires. i.e. winning a race "on mileage" is still more luck than anything else.
What I'd like to see is one team out there w/ a direct injected V8 getting twice the mileage as the push-rod dinosaurs... then we can talk about a fuel mileage advantage, since they'd need to pit half as often, assuming Goodyear brought tires that can last that long.
First, I am not trying to start an argument, just trying to understand what you are saying...
I don't think the level of technology changes the fact that there is strategy is involved or that one team can have an advantage over another in that area. In many respects, carburetor choices made before the race are a strategy in themselves, as are how many stops in a F-1 race, wing angle for speed vs. downforce, etc...
In this case, it was also the way Vickers drove vs. the other drivers. I would think that would be true in F1 as well. Changing from a 2 stop to 3 stop strategy due to race conditions or vice-versa must involve the driver and how he conserves or expends fuel and is not just a matter of turning a knob/switch. I swear I have heard conserve fuel and drive like hell, fuel is fine type comments on F-1 radios...
Martin who was saving fuel to an even higher extreme still ran out in his Chevy, so there was definitely a significant difference between the teams.
I think both series have quite complicated fuel strategies regardless of technology.
Fuel Strategy might play more of a role in NASCAR than F-1 and both are subject to "luck" factors, but NASCAR sees more "luck" factors due to the length of their races, the number of cars on track and the older technology.
Bristol Fri. & 5at. afternoon! 5PM & 4:30 respectively for Nationwide/Sprint.
Should be good if Truck race Wed. was any indication.
MattR
2009-08-21, 04:07 PM
Weird, the post at the top of this page is for Bristol one year ago.
I missed the truck race, I wonder if it's on replay.
Weird, the post at the top of this page is for Bristol one year ago.
I missed the truck race, I wonder if it's on replay.Monday, 9:30AM on speed
This Rocks! They are going to qualify the Nationwide series cars on a road course in the rain at Montreal!!!
http://www.circuitgillesvilleneuve.ca/en/
On now!!!
They ran in the ran last year. Great race. Supposed to be clear tomorrow... :(
MattR
2009-08-29, 11:33 PM
Ambrose is unreal!. And he lucked out by not practicing and going out to qualy early...he should have a great race Tomorrow.
Good race, great finish.
Bunch of stupid people doing stuff you wouldn't do in the dry in the wet made the last 20 laps annoying, but glad they put on the wets and ran in the "rain". The fans sure loved it.
MattR
2009-08-30, 06:40 PM
I'm gutted, I can't believe the finish...anyway, Nascar needs to learn when NOT to throw a caution, 99% of those incidents were self-correcting.
I'm gutted, I can't believe the finish...anyway, Nascar needs to learn when NOT to throw a caution, 99% of those incidents were self-correcting.True, but going 4 wide into a 1 wide corner with 2 in the wet grass and becoming a bowling ball into the pack is not NASCAR's fault.
Should have pulled the driver's out for a 1 minute driver's meeting when they changed to wets and told them they spin, they get black flagged, they punt someone, they sit for a lap, they do anything really stupid, they get parked.
There was no excuse for some of that crap.
F1 wouldn't put up with it. :)
I really like that course for some reason. No SPA, but many challenges, high and low speed. Is that where F1 ran in Canada?
MattR
2009-08-30, 07:26 PM
Yep, that's where F1 ran and Will Run again in 2010...Scott, Nick, David and I sat right in turn 2, which would have been great seats today.
OK, the chase has started, and I'm watching the first race on the DVR right now...
Who do you want to win???
I am torn between Mark Martin and JPM... I want them both to win for completely different reasons.
Very interesting Poll answer on Speed today. When asked about what they wanted to change about the chase between:
Add a restrictor plate race
Add a Short Track race
Add a road course
Leave it alone
59% of the "fans" said to add a road course! There is some hope for Nascar fans after all.
I was thinking that restrictor plate races are getting boring and dangerous, so they should start using the internal road courses at those speedways.
Welcome to the 2010 Dean talks to himself NASCAR thread with guest appearances by Matt. :)
Is this Mark Martin's year, will JPM check his ego and just drive and win like we know he can or is Jimmy unstoppable?
They are getting rid of the wing and going back to the spoiler mid-season? WTF? Next we will be going back to carborated pushrod V-8s. ;)
If the shootout and practices are any indicator, the duels and race should be "fun".
What did you think of Danica in the ARCA race? I was impressed how she came back after the off-road excursion. Even DW was.
sperry
2010-02-11, 09:54 AM
Welcome to the 2010 Dean talks to himself NASCAR thread with guest appearances by Matt. :)
Is this Mark Martin's year, will JPM check his ego and just drive and win like we know he can or is Jimmy unstoppable?
They are getting rid of the wing and going back to the spoiler mid-season? WTF? Next we will be going back to carborated pushrod V-8s. ;)
If the shootout and practices are any indicator, the duels and race should be "fun".
What did you think of Danica in the ARCA race? I was impressed how she came back after the off-road excursion. Even DW was.
Mark Martin's year was 1998. I can't believe he's still threatening a championship win 12 years and two retirements later.
Mark Martin's year was 1998. I can't believe he's still threatening a championship win 12 years and two retirements later.Have you seen the man recently? They did a bit on him last year and walked through his training regime and such. The guy is in amazing shape, the best of his life he says. Add to that his experience and his team, he has a great chance IMHO. He only has to improve a bit from last year.
A1337STI
2010-02-11, 02:51 PM
Isn't there a big race this weekend? I should watch, since i'll be doing some Roundy round come March 13th as part of the desert storm super special!
sperry
2010-02-11, 03:16 PM
Isn't there a big race this weekend? I should watch, since i'll be doing some Roundy round come March 13th as part of the desert storm super special!
You mean the Daytona 500? It's not that big of a race.
A1337STI
2010-02-11, 03:22 PM
Ya that's it, and...*damn must be a trick to admit i know something about nascar*
I'll fall for it... its their biggest deal , their super bowl
http://nascar.about.com/od/nascarculture/tp/biggestraces.htm
1. Daytona 500
It has been called "The Great American Race" and "The Super Bowl of NASCAR." No matter what you call it there is no doubt that the Daytona 500 is the biggest, most-prestigous event on the NASCAR Sprint Cup calendar.
Not that i care that much... i just catching you being wrong :lol: (just how you introduced yourself to me many years ago .. just sticks with me)
MattR
2010-02-11, 03:22 PM
My super bowl is this sunday...I'm pumped...Love me some Nascar.
sperry
2010-02-11, 03:27 PM
Ya that's it, and...*damn must be a trick to admit i know something about nascar*
I'll fall for it... its their biggest deal , their super bowl
http://nascar.about.com/od/nascarculture/tp/biggestraces.htm
1. Daytona 500
It has been called "The Great American Race" and "The Super Bowl of NASCAR." No matter what you call it there is no doubt that the Daytona 500 is the biggest, most-prestigous event on the NASCAR Sprint Cup calendar.
Not that i care that much... i just catching you being wrong :lol: (just how you introduced yourself to me many years ago .. just sticks with me)
Alex, Sarcasm.
Sarcasm, Alex.
Kevin M
2010-02-11, 03:31 PM
Alex, Sarcasm.
Sarcasm, Alex.
They've met. It wasn't memorable for either of them.
Just for the rest of us.
NASCAR days...
Danica will be starting a Nationwide car in an hour or so. (ESPN2) Truck Series at 3:30PM Pacific and the Daytona 500 tomorrow... Boogity Boogity Boogity!
Anybody catch the Toyota design your own paint scheme "Sponsafier" contest commercials? Some of them were pretty funny. The one with the kyle bush in the pink driving suit and little girl's car with cats and baby seal on it is hilarious. The 7th level warlock is pretty good too.
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/home
tysonK
2010-02-14, 02:57 PM
Pothole!!!!!
MattR
2010-02-14, 03:17 PM
This pos old track is pissing me off... I'm going to have to DVR the finish if this keeps up, we have dinner plans in a bit, and valentine's dinner isn't one I can cancel to watch tv :lol:
sperry
2010-02-15, 12:25 PM
This pos old track is pissing me off... I'm going to have to DVR the finish if this keeps up, we have dinner plans in a bit, and valentine's dinner isn't one I can cancel to watch tv :lol:
Welcome to my world... 5.5 hours of recorded race and I missed the end by an hour. :mad:
It wouldn't be so bad if Fox would friggen call the pre-race show its own program so I don't have to record 2 hours of Tim McGraw and 200 versions of the same interview before the race starts.
So, what happened after the caution for A.J.'s spin?
MattR
2010-02-15, 12:42 PM
So, what happened after the caution for A.J.'s spin?
:lol: You're kidding I hope...It was pretty much the best 500 finish I've ever seen...Hop on speed channel tonight, I'm sure one of their wrap up shows will be on.
Replay is Wed. at 9:00am on speed.
sperry
2010-02-15, 04:35 PM
:lol: You're kidding I hope...It was pretty much the best 500 finish I've ever seen...Hop on speed channel tonight, I'm sure one of their wrap up shows will be on.
I'm not kidding. :( I recorded 30 minutes extra only because the weather was supposed to be clear. I never thought I'd need to record and extra two hours to account for the track falling apart.
I missed Bristol live and on replays. Found a torrent for the Sprint race, but nothing for the nationwide or truck races.
Any ideas? Nothing on yidio or anywhere else obvious.
MattR
2010-03-26, 08:11 PM
The only really good part of the N'Wide race at Bristol is Joey getting dumped on the last lap and getting all pissy.. Oh, and there's a surprise winner...so it's a good finish.
If you haven't already, check out RaceBuddy! (http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/webcast/tnt_racebuddy/)
The only thing it is missing at least pre-race is the actual TV feed/audio.
Wish I could get TNT and Speed streamed in 720p or just letterbox 480p.
Do you like "pairs" racing at Telladega and Daytona?
I do.
MattR
2011-10-23, 05:37 PM
Ehhhhh... not so much
sperry
2011-10-23, 10:35 PM
Do you like "pairs" racing at Telladega and Daytona?
I do.
I like the teammate aspect of it. But the actual racing isn't all that awesome. Right now I'm watching the 'dega replay on espn 2 and I'm bored.
I think it is far better than freight train racing which until recently was the alternative at restrictor plate tracks.
RPs are really the problem. Without any initimate knowledge of the cars, i think giving them back the HP and taking away aero would force them to GAS-BRAKE-TURN-REPEAT (shift optional).
No splitter/spoiler or some change in them might well be a far better solution than restricting the intake.
sperry
2011-10-24, 10:20 AM
I think it is far better than freight train racing which until recently was the alternative at restrictor plate tracks.
RPs are really the problem. Without any initimate knowledge of the cars, i think giving them back the HP and taking away aero would force them to GAS-BRAKE-TURN-REPEAT (shift optional).
No splitter/spoiler or some change in them might well be a far better solution than restricting the intake.
Well, the big reason they went to the restrictor plates was because the cars were going so fast, they'd flip into the stands in a wreck.
So the question is, with all the current gen aero and roof flaps and the like, are the cars safe enough at 230mph to spin around backwards and stay on the ground? Or more likely, are they safe enough at 250mph, which is probably the speeds we'd see with the current power and aero tech... they were hitting 230 in the 80's afterall... today they'll be much faster.
Frankly, the "right" answer is to have them run unrestricted 2.0L 4 bangers or something. Then they'll have the responsiveness of a non-restrictor plate motor but with no horsepower. It would sound like a swarm of angry bees. :lol:
MattR
2011-10-24, 11:55 AM
In yesterday's race, Regan Smith hit the wall in a very similar fashion to that of the wreck that killed Dale Sr., if not a harder direct hit. I've never seen SAFER walls move that much. I was worried for him when I saw the impact. Sure enough, he walked away, just sore. I'm continually impressed by the safety of the cars and tracks.
So, am I the only one watching the Homestead race? 3 points??? This is what "The Chase" is all about.
MattR
2011-11-20, 01:12 PM
You know I'm watching...Homestead is one of the last true ovals in the series and always a great race, nevermind the awesome championship battle!
Well. There you have it! Pretty damn incredible chase, race and season.
Tony deserves it!
sperry
2011-11-20, 05:49 PM
Man, my DVR was set to record extra time but I still missed the end of the race. Then when I switched over to live TV the race was over. I had to back up to see the last few laps. Seems like a pretty exciting way to wrap up a championship.
Congrats to Stewart. He's one of the few guys I like in NASCAR. Good to see him win for his own team.
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