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sperry 2005-02-02 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
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So, the new Novice class will be scored seperately? Or not at all?

Both. They will be seperated into their own class per event, and have their times listed, but not scored for season points unless they choose to move to a true class.

Novice year end awards will not be based on Novice class participation.

The purpose of the novice class is to give people a place to learn for a couple events and see if they like it and make a somewhat informed decision to move into a real class.

It is not intended to be a season long class as other regions have.

If that's the case, do we really need a "Novice" class, isn't is essentially the same as RNP, plus an option to move 4 events to a points class?

I'd almost rather see Novice as another PAX class like Street Tire... but to be eligible you have to actually be a novice. I would base the year end Novice award on the results from that class, but leave "Rookie of the Year" up to the board as it currently is.

sti deede 2005-02-02 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Novice year end awards will not be based on Novice class participation.

The purpose of the novice class is to give people a place to learn for a couple events and see if they like it and make a somewhat informed decision to move into a real class.

It is not intended to be a season long class as other regions have.

Thank you. So as a newer driver I would be eligible for a novice award, in theory?

sperry 2005-02-02 02:40 PM

Also, the biggest thing I think we should attempt to achieve with any changes is a simplification to the scoring procedure. Hell, if there were no n00bs and no RNPs, timing and scoring and event would be as simple as turning on the computer, setting up the lights, and getting a car to the line.

I'd like to make sure the goal of any changes is to streamline the dealing with RNP-ers and new drivers.

Dean 2005-02-02 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by Dean
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Originally Posted by nKoan
So, the new Novice class will be scored seperately? Or not at all?

Both. They will be seperated into their own class per event, and have their times listed, but not scored for season points unless they choose to move to a true class.

Novice year end awards will not be based on Novice class participation.

The purpose of the novice class is to give people a place to learn for a couple events and see if they like it and make a somewhat informed decision to move into a real class.

It is not intended to be a season long class as other regions have.

If that's the case, do we really need a "Novice" class, isn't is essentially the same as RNP, plus an option to move 4 events to a points class?

I'd almost rather see Novice as another PAX class like Street Tire... but to be eligible you have to actually be a novice. I would base the year end Novice award on the results from that class, but leave "Rookie of the Year" up to the board as it currently is.

I am attempting to reduce the pain at tech, and registration with people who show up for 1-3 events and are never seen again. We spend way to much time confusing these people with classing, and rule books the first day they show up when we should be helping them understand their cars, driving, etc.

Anybody who shows up 4 times hopefully has a bit of a clue by then, and can ask for help on car classing, and make the jump to whatever class.

I realize this is just like RNP, and that is why it is a combined RNP/Novice proposal. The only reason I am differntiating them is because I ant the Ns to get some attention, and they don't have car numbers, etc. The other Key is that both R, and N can be run twice a day. T or any other class to be fair, cannot.

Maybe I should replace the word Novice with Beginner, but B is already taken.

We could generate a virtual "1st year" class results if we so choose...

Dean 2005-02-02 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Also, the biggest thing I think we should attempt to achieve with any changes is a simplification to the scoring procedure. Hell, if there were no n00bs and no RNPs, timing and scoring and event would be as simple as turning on the computer, setting up the lights, and getting a car to the line.

I'd like to make sure the goal of any changes is to streamline the dealing with RNP-ers and new drivers.

Lets talk before the meeting so we don't take up 30 minutes between the two of us getting into timing symantecs.

sperry 2005-02-02 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
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Originally Posted by sperry
Also, the biggest thing I think we should attempt to achieve with any changes is a simplification to the scoring procedure. Hell, if there were no n00bs and no RNPs, timing and scoring and event would be as simple as turning on the computer, setting up the lights, and getting a car to the line.

I'd like to make sure the goal of any changes is to streamline the dealing with RNP-ers and new drivers.

Lets talk before the meeting so we don't take up 30 minutes between the two of us getting into timing symantecs.

Will do.

You wanna try to get their a bit early? Say 5:30, to discuss T&S issues related to this proposal?

Dean 2005-02-02 03:14 PM

Sure.

MattR 2005-02-02 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Lets talk before the meeting so we don't take up 30 minutes between the two of us getting into timing symantecs.

I can show up early, and I'd love to dicuss this stuff with you guys, when and where...5:30 at Austins?

MattR 2005-02-02 03:15 PM

Oh, Tyson said he's coming tonight too..I hope there's enough chairs. :lol:

sonicsuby 2005-02-02 03:24 PM

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I wish I lived up in Reno so I could autox more regularly :(

Its a quick trip, just come up here for events, you can stay up here over the weekend.

I'd like to come up more. We'll have to see how this summer goes. If Josey is still working over night and sleeping most of the day much of my reason for staying home on weekends will be gone ;)

Kevin M 2005-02-02 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sti deede
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
I wish I lived up in Reno so I could autox more regularly :(

Its a quick trip, just come up here for events, you can stay up here over the weekend.

I'd like to come up more. We'll have to see how this summer goes. If Josey is still working over night and sleeping most of the day much of my reason for staying home on weekends will be gone ;)

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Originally Posted by sti deede
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Originally Posted by sonicsuby
I wish I lived up in Reno so I could autox more regularly :(

Its a quick trip, just come up here for events, you can stay up here over the weekend.

I'd like to come up more. We'll have to see how this summer goes. If Josey is still working over night and sleeping most of the day much of my reason for staying home on weekends will be gone ;)

Fuckin n00bs. :rolleyes: :P

sti deede 2005-02-02 03:27 PM

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Fuckin n00bs. :rolleyes: :P

You know it is sooo cool that we can cus on our board.
SECCS>I-Club.

Kevin M 2005-02-02 03:45 PM

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Fuckin n00bs. :rolleyes: :P

You know it is sooo cool that we can cus on our board.
SECCS>I-Club.

Eh, it's only cool because we don't do it to excess here. Get 35,000 members and watch how old it gets.

sti deede 2005-02-02 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sti deede
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Fuckin n00bs. :rolleyes: :P

You know it is sooo cool that we can cus on our board.
SECCS>I-Club.

Eh, it's only cool because we don't do it to excess here. Get 35,000 members and watch how old it gets.

I guess that's the fuckin troof. 8)

dknv 2005-02-02 06:58 PM

So, I spent time I would've spent in the meeting, catching up on seccs.

Agenda looked like it had some topics on it that would lead to long discussion.

MattR 2005-02-02 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv
So, I spent time I would've spent in the meeting, catching up on seccs.

Agenda looked like it had some topics on it that would lead to long discussion.

OMG! You are so right...We finally just has to say fuck it until next month...John Rigss Jr and Greg Benson got into a nice heated yelling match..very entertaining.

Dean 2005-02-02 09:36 PM

I love the topic that we tabled, but still spent the alloted 10-15 minutes on... You guys missed the hour and a half the directors spent on the superset question... Be glad that got trimmed.

tysonK 2005-02-02 09:48 PM

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OMG! You are so right...We finally just has to say fuck it until next month...John Rigss Jr and Greg Benson got into a nice heated yelling match..very entertaining.

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