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sp00ln 2006-04-24 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Cheap, Fast, Reliable: Pick two.

DSM = Cheap & Fast.

Apparenly my WRX = just Fast.

You might convince me that a DSM is an upgrade at this point. :lol: Hopefully after things are back together and tuned, the motor will last a while.

Well, I know that if you would have put the money into a 6bolt DSM that you put into your WRX, you'd have an amazing car. We'll, you're all about handeling, not some much power and handeling, huh?

580hp : http://www.automotosports.com/ericspec.asp

GC8.Love 2006-04-24 09:06 PM

Oh no! What the crap. I'm sorry that's not even the first time...

GST Mike 2006-04-25 07:14 AM

Well I backed it onto the dyno last night Scott, if that's any sign of it's health :D

Something to add though is that the shower of oil from the oil cooler is something to watch, I think I am going to have to fix it before you come down though.

Mike

sybir 2006-04-25 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GST Mike
Well I backed it onto the dyno last night Scott, if that's any sign of it's health :D

Something to add though is that the shower of oil from the oil cooler is something to watch, I think I am going to have to fix it before you come down though.

Mike


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Mike, you're exposing his competitive advantage, an SM-legal oil-slick dispenser!

doubleurx 2006-04-25 09:14 AM

Sounds like good news and a huge relief Scott. All I can say about Mike's dedication/patience with your car is WOW? Driving to pick up your car and haul it to the shop - that's what I call service!

sp00ln 2006-04-25 10:02 AM

Do WRX's/STi's come with oil coolers (air to air) stock?

sperry 2006-04-25 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sp00ln
Do WRX's/STi's come with oil coolers (air to air) stock?

Nope. There's an oil/water heat exchanger on the bottom of the motor between the block and the oil filter that helps to equalize water and oil temps, but it's not really a cooler.

I built a top mount oil cooler that kinda sits where the old intercooler went in the hoodscoop. Unfortunately it looks like the cooler core has a leak in it! :eek: Time to bring it back to Summit for a new one. :mad:

sp00ln 2006-04-25 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Nope. There's an oil/water heat exchanger on the bottom of the motor between the block and the oil filter that helps to equalize water and oil temps, but it's not really a cooler.

I built a top mount oil cooler that kinda sits where the old intercooler went in the hoodscoop. Unfortunately it looks like the cooler core has a leak in it! :eek: Time to bring it back to Summit for a new one. :mad:

That's crap that they still use a sandwich for new model RALLEY BASED cars. Genius idea puting it where the old IC is.

Thats why I want to get a 1990 DSM - 6 bolt, oil cooler stock. :)

sperry 2006-04-25 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sp00ln
That's crap that they still use a sandwich for new model RALLEY BASED cars. Genius idea puting it where the old IC is.

Thats why I want to get a 1990 DSM - 6 bolt, oil cooler stock. :)

I think the only reason for the oil/water heat exchanger is to help warm up the oil to operating temperatures more quickly. I can't imagine that thing does much for lowering oil temps.

Overseas, the special edition STIs all come w/ grill mounted oil coolers.

sp00ln 2006-04-25 10:22 AM

It doesn't. I was wondering though - Do you think there is a way where you could run the lines to another water/cooling liquid source that could provide cooler temps than the radiator can provide? Perhaps get an oil cooler/transmition cooler and just make it an extension of your radiator route and have it immediatley go to your sandwich?

Hmmmm.... :)

sperry 2006-04-25 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sp00ln
It doesn't. I was wondering though - Do you think there is a way where you could run the lines to another water/cooling liquid source that could provide cooler temps than the radiator can provide? Perhaps get an oil cooler/transmition cooler and just make it an extension of your radiator route and have it immediatley go to your sandwich?

Hmmmm.... :)

The way the exchanger is plumbed, you'd have to somehow route the water that normally runs through the exhanger, around the exhanger... after which, I don't think there'd be much room to add the plumbing needed to hook the exchanger to a better/different cooler.

Really the best/easiest thing to do is to toss a sandwhich adapter in there and run a simple oil cooler, same way Subaru/STI does it:


SlickNick112 2006-04-25 03:11 PM

Updates?.......

sybir 2006-04-25 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickNick112
Updates?.......


Are all in the previous 35 posts, just read 'em ;)

Motor runs, no apparent damage, new oil-cooler system has some kinks to be worked out.

sperry 2006-04-25 03:41 PM

The update is that the car is running, but Mike's outta time to tune it before the weekend due to his commitment to the rally team's Rim entry.

I'm trying to get down there tonight/tomorrow to lend a hand, hopefully to get my car running for this weekend, as well as to help out on the rally car if I can be of any use.

sp00ln 2006-04-25 05:51 PM

How much do they charge to do a leakdown test? When I say leak down, its not a compression test, is it?

sperry 2006-04-26 09:20 AM

A leak-down test is basically hooking up compressed air to the cylinder and seeing how fast the pressure leaks off. It's unlike a compression test (that uses the starter to crank the motor and reads cylinder pressures) because it's done w/o having to turn the motor.

Here's a decent explaination: http://www.type2.com/library/engineg/leaktst.htm

I have no idea what they charge... I'm assuming it's their normal $75/hr shop work rate, and probably an hour for all four cylinders. On an inline 4 it would probably take less time since the cylinders/sparkplugs are far more accessible.

sp00ln 2006-04-26 09:37 AM

Yeah, I know what a leakdown test is. Im just making sure that they were not doing actually doing a compression test when they claim it's a leak down test.

I wanted to do it myself, but I cant find the gauge in town. Would anyone happen to know where I could possibly pick one up? I've have yet to go to summit, but I've gone to nappa, autozone, and kragen... nothing.

Pat R. 2006-04-26 05:45 PM

You could probably flag down a Matco or Snap-on truck and pick one up.

MattR 2006-04-26 08:30 PM

So we're grabbing the car hauler at 6:30 AM, and should have frankensuby onboard by 11:00AM. Wish us luck.

sybir 2006-04-26 08:34 PM

You down there now?

MattR 2006-04-27 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sybir
You down there now?

Nope, still in Reno, I'm leaving to get Scott right now.

MPREZIV 2006-04-27 06:32 AM

Scott already called me at 6:12 this morning to see if he could bring you your wheels Aaron, but they were here at work, and the store didn't open until 7.


Tried...

sybir 2006-04-27 08:17 AM

No worries, man, I'm sorry for all the hassle.

MPREZIV 2006-04-27 08:55 AM

Eh, not a hassle at all dude! Like I've said before, I'm always glad to help out!


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