Or you're planning on committing to taking someone else's.

Same for any weapon. Sure, I play with my knife, but I'd never pull it out in anger unless I was planning on using it. You pull a deadly weapon of any sort, and there is no second chance. You've escalated, and anyone else is justified in meeting that escalation of force. You pull a gun and aim it (or a knife, for that matter), and the other guy is justified in capping your dumb ass in self-defense.

No actually it really does appear he misread it.

unless you figure anyone who ever carries a gun keeps it loaded. a lot of people carry unloaded guns with them in their cars for example. (My uncle does that ) and some people carry a gun and the clip of ammo out of the gun so they would be carrying an unloaded gun. :P

at any rate if i misinterpreted something someone else wrote, I still got a laugh out of his wording. and i can admit a funny looking post I made and laugh at myself too :P guess its all Win Win for me :)

That's what we're saying. Saying "loaded" in front of "gun" is extraneous. Anyone who carries a gun unloaded is a retard, becuase they're carrying it purely for shock value and will be unable to respond to the escalation of force them pulling a gun implies.

pull an unloaded gun on me, and you will later find yourself trying to shit the affore-mentioned useless firearm back out...

It's called sarcasm, he didn't misread it. What good is it having an unloaded gun on you? Or in your car? Even if you have the ammo on you as well, I imagine the situation in which you need a gun to defend yourself does not permit time for finding the ammo and loading it. You're dead by then.

Ya seriously. If there is a situation that requires me to brandish a gun, that situation also requires me to have it loaded.

Yeah, if you are pulling an unloaded gun out, you better be real good (really, really good) with the pistol whip and/or pistol throwing techniques.

so all of you would immediately assume anyone who pulls a gun on you has it unloaded? you are all a lot braver then i am :P next time someone pulls a gun out , assume its unloaded , teach them a lesson, and let me know how it all works out for you :P lol

ya i get what i missed now. i still laughed about it, and now i have something else to laugh about.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No, just the opposite in fact. If someone pulls a gun on me, I assume its loaded and freak out. I would assume that everyone else in their right mind would as well. But you never know who else is holding. Thus...

Person 1 pulls an unloaded gun out (like an idiot).
Person 2 thinks "Shit, someone just pulled a gun on me, I should pull my loaded one out"
Person 1 shits himself
Person 2 pulls the trigger and Person 1 is now Dead Person 1.

or
Person 1 pulls an unloaded gun out (like an idiot).
Person 2 thinks "Shit someone just pulled a gun on me, I need to GTFO"

or
Person 1 pulls an unloaded gun out (like an idiot).
Person 2 thinks "Shit, my life is on the line I need to fight like it counts" and beats the shit out of Person 1; Whom is now either Seriously Wounded Person 1 or Dead Person 1.

Personally, I'd rather be alive than succeed bluffing w/ an unloaded gun, so the better theory is 'Don't pull a gun out unless you can and will use it' and Q.E.D. only an idiot would pull an unloaded gun on a stranger.

And by the way, the law sides with Person 2 in the two bad scenarios because their life was threatened.

The nomenclature "loaded gun" is just good copy...for places like CNN. Just like "assault rifle", "unknown sniper", and "automatic pistol".

I, for instance, prefer to drive an AWD Subaru. Sure, other states of Subaruness exist, but only in the hands of poor saps.

guess i'm having a http://www.tvsquad.com/media/2006/03/homer-doh.jpg Moment

I love this place. Only on SECCS can we turn a thread about a busted ass ricer WRX into a thread about the dangers of carrying an unloaded weapon. :lol:

Tangents? Nah.

Hell, that discussion on a free track day went all over the place, and has ended up as a discussion on break-in procedures.

What, no street racing rants?

This thread is retarded, and so are street racers.

/quota

my internet, which is loaded, just started working and I see this thread.

wow.

does this thread fall under gay or smart-ass.

maybe a poll is needed.

polls are smartass. Poles are usually gay on teh intarwebs.

I almost got rear ended by a stupid street racer on Sunday. was coming back up from willows, a bit past Sacramento had 2 mustangs pass me at at least 100. I waited about 45 seconds before daring to make a lane change for fear of some other dumb yahoos behind me, I was looking behind me and to the lane left of me, put my signal on, let it blink 3-4 times but then sure enough soon as i was changing lanes a 3rd asshole comes flying up at over 100 from the far right lane and tries to dive into the far left lane and almost hit my rear end. my turn signal was clearly on. I saw the head lights coming at me really fast.

I was about road ragging pissed and just hung out on the left lane and slowed down to 62 and just sat there and he took an exit off the highway about a 1/2 mile up (in almost an equally reckless fashion) ARG !!!! Never a cop when you need one. i was thinking of letting him go ahead of me and grabbing his Plate # and calling the cops but left the highway before i could, and chances are they wouldn't do anything. Blah!

street racers should be kept in fast n furious movies, or in monkey cages at the zoo where i can throw rocks and sticks at them
/rant