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Dean 2008-12-06 01:26 PM

H&R Spacers!

Dewey 2008-12-06 02:04 PM

Sweet. so i shouldnt be too worried about not being able to get them to fit? cause im starting to see that i wont be able to afford some 17s before next season. especially if i want to get some coils.

Kevin M 2008-12-06 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 126181)
H&R Spacers!

More specifically, the high quality extended lug studs that come with them are pretty sweet. High on my priority list with my next autocross car to give me more wheel choice flexibility.

Emboyoyo 2008-12-08 09:29 AM

Anybody know a cheap place to get tires mounted and balanced?? It's $80 at Les Schwab....And I need them mounted this week

100_Percent_Juice 2008-12-08 09:43 AM

Walmart has always done a good job for me and they have screwed my wheels 100% less than Les Schwab has. I would only take factory size wheels to them though.

Emboyoyo 2008-12-08 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice (Post 126211)
Walmart has always done a good job for me and they have screwed my wheels 100% less than Les Schwab has. I would only take factory size wheels to them though.


Okay...I'll have to check there...Thanks!

cody 2008-12-08 09:47 AM

Last time I checked, Nissan of Reno only charges $75 and you can request that Cory do them. :)

sperry 2008-12-08 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cody (Post 126214)
Last time I checked, Nissan of Reno only charges $75 and you can request that Cory do them. :)

It's over $100 now.

Emboyoyo 2008-12-08 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 126215)
It's over $100 now.

Yeah...I already talked to Cory...That's a little too high for me :(

Dean 2008-12-08 10:11 AM

Walmart was under $10/tire for mount and 1 time balance and slightly higher for "lifetime" balance when I checked at Mae Ann store last month.

cody 2008-12-08 11:04 AM

Big-O has been advertising for a while now that they will mount and balance your "snow tires" for $50 and they throw in 4 plastic bags for the tires that come off.

Dewey 2008-12-08 11:40 AM

Holy hell that is expensive for a 4m + b... Chevron only charges 60 bucks and I thought that was expensive.

A1337STI 2008-12-08 02:52 PM

MR Hubcap on E.Glendale and 395. :) great prices.

dewmudgeon, WHY WHY WHY are you looking for 17's? :?: (or why does anyone who can fit 16's over their brakes look for 17s?)

do you want to optimize your cars Go fast potential? or do you want the cool look of big rims?

Moment of Inertia is I = k * M * R^2
constant K = 1 solid ring

so there for decreasing the mass of a 22.5 pound rim by 2.5 pounds has the same affect on our moment of inertia as going down to a 16". those rims i listed actually weight 13.5 lbs so to beat their moment of inertia you'll need to find a 17 that weights less then 12 pounds. :huh:

https://www.bigwheels.net/index.php?...20Flat%20Black 16X8 $688 48 offset.


BTW did you know you can fit 14" rims over rear 2003 WRX brakes? :lol: [think 13's might fit, but haven't checked]

100_Percent_Juice 2008-12-08 03:06 PM

14" rims are gay as hell. IEO

sperry 2008-12-08 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI (Post 126228)
MR Hubcap on E.Glendale and 395. :) great prices.

dewmudgeon, WHY WHY WHY are you looking for 17's? :?: (or why does anyone who can fit 16's over their brakes look for 17s?)

do you want to optimize your cars Go fast potential? or do you want the cool look of big rims?

Moment of Inertia is I = k * M * R^2
constant K = 1 solid ring

so there for decreasing the mass of a 22.5 pound rim by 2.5 pounds has the same affect on our moment of inertia as going down to a 16". those rims i listed actually weight 13.5 lbs so to beat their moment of inertia you'll need to find a 17 that weights less then 12 pounds. :huh:

https://www.bigwheels.net/index.php?...20Flat%20Black 16X8 $688 48 offset.


BTW did you know you can fit 14" rims over rear 2003 WRX brakes? :lol: [think 13's might fit, but haven't checked]

Lot's of good wide summer performance tires only come in 17"+ sizes. As soon as Bridgestone makes an RE01R in 285/50/15, the autocrossers will be all over smaller rims.

cody 2008-12-08 04:08 PM

Yah, I tried looking for tires for 16X8's and this is all I could find:

Hankook Ventus R-S2
(Extreme Performance Summer)
Size: 245/45ZR16
Serv. Desc: 94W Load Index 94 = 1477lbs (670kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) UTQG: Treadwear: 200
Traction: AA
Temperature: A200 AA A
Price: $113.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...=1&RunFlat=All

Dean 2008-12-08 04:27 PM

What Scott said... Find a 255, 275, 305+++ width in a <50 series tire in a 14-16" and the race/solo community will beat a path to your door. :)

And actually, for the same level of stiffness, rubber probably weighs more than aluminum...

17s remain one of the best bang for your buck wheel/tire combination form both a cost and performance perspective for 3000+ lb. street cars. Miatas are another topic... :)

MPREZIV 2008-12-09 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 126215)
It's over $100 now.

Yeah, used to be just over $50. They doubled it. And the AWESOME part is that they cut the labor by 60%, so I now make LESS THAN HALF of what I used to actually doing the work... Making sure Taylor Wondries stays rich, and I stay poor...

Dewey 2008-12-09 03:50 PM

I want 17's because of tire selection and i plan on upgrading to bigger brakes in the future.

A1337STI 2008-12-10 09:42 AM

Oh damn,
Didn't realize there are basically only Hoosiers and VictoRacers for 16" tires wider then 235. I was really thinking there would be more wide tires for 16's.

255/50ZR16 A6 Hoosiers Would make your car have silly amounts of tire grip though.
I've seen Allon run 275/40/17 on a 17X8 so i would imagine that 265/45ZR16 would fit on a 16X8 OMFG but its Price: $221.00 (each) :(

Brakes are cool to have, Cory has an awesome brake package!

sperry 2008-12-10 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI (Post 126301)
Oh damn,
Didn't realize there are basically only Hoosiers and VictoRacers for 16" tires wider then 235. I was really thinking there would be more wide tires for 16's.

255/50ZR16 A6 Hoosiers Would make your car have silly amounts of tire grip though.
I've seen Allon run 275/40/17 on a 17X8 so i would imagine that 265/45ZR16 would fit on a 16X8 OMFG but its Price: $221.00 (each) :(

Brakes are cool to have, Cory has an awesome brake package!

On that note, if you're willing to go to true race slicks (non autocross legal), you can find all sorts of crazy sticky/crazy expensive tires for small/wide rims.

You know, like a 12x12... :lol:

zpeed 2008-12-10 10:20 PM

Reno Costco less than $50 for all 4 to mount & balance. They also use Nitrogen to filled the tires.

100_Percent_Juice 2008-12-10 10:28 PM

^Is that the price if you buy their tires?

Kevin M 2008-12-11 10:11 AM

Last I checked Costco will not mount tires you didn't buy there.

Dewey 2008-12-11 11:19 AM

drive up to incline and have chevron mount them.
60 dollars for mount and balance


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