$189 at JSCspeed.com

Just size... and awesomeness.

Not sure I would spend the $s on Defi without the controller and other features. Plenty of other "normal" gauges for less.

This just about made me shit my pants.

And would you guys suggest the same heirarchy of gauges for an NA application? Should I quit asking questions as soon as they pop into my head and search first?

Yep, make sure you get a boost gauge.

















Yes, I'd go in the same order. For an NA street car with cams and no ECU tuning, oil temp, oil pressure, and water temp (maaaaaaybe AFR) are all you're really going to need; you're looking for big issues while beating on the motor, not really tuning with gauges which what we're talking about with AFR, EGT, etc. You're not going to be making significant enough changes to flow in the motor that you're going to pop it running it lean, etc, for the most part - atmospheric is atmospheric. The only thing you can really tune with on an NA car is going to be a wideband.

And yes, the answer is almost always going to be "do a search", but there's not a whole lot of NA RS buildups because you're talking minimal gains compared to forced induction, especially at altitude.

If you have a cavity in the front of your mouth you can save money by getting silver fillings or you can spend a little extra for porcelain. If I am going to be looking at something everyday it might as well look good and defi's look good.:cool:

WTF does that have to do with anything? Use that analogy on your wife when you bring home the hookers. :rolleyes:

If you are buying gauges for looks, get some blingin' ones at P-Diddy's Phat crib o' gauges. If you want them for what gauges are supposed to do, provide data, either get what you can afford that does what you need, or save up for what you really want and do it right, or just finance the schnizzle ones, since that is the American way.

Dean, it's easy to see that gus is basing his decision on looks instead of the best function. He doesn't need the bells and whistles of the control unit but he wants the p-diddy bling that defi provides even without the control unit.

and why would you bring a hooker to your house?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62...g_it_wrong.jpg

I take it that the 60mm is the most awesomess of them? :lol:

Get the red racers and spend the rest of your days happy.

Ordered the defi red racer boost gauge for now! =)

Oh damn. I hope mine looks as good as that!

Don't get me wrong. I want it to function well, and do what it should.. But I wanted it to look good as you said.. That's why I just ordered the Defi.

So now all I have to get is the pod for it, right?

PLEASE tell me you made that just for the sake of posting it in this thread...

And sybir, would AFR and EGT become more important if I decide I wanna tune my car? I keep going back and forth between paying for a tune, or spending a month researching it and slowly getting into tuning myself

EGT is an excellent tool for tuning whether you have boost or not, but it's not real useful the rest of the time. Same for AFR. Oil temp and oil pressure are the best diagnostic "oh shit I better shut it down now" gauges.

now i have another problem... Buy the defi clock gauge pod.. Or buy a HID kit, and just get a steering column mount, if I can find one cheap.

How much is the hid kit pure looking at? I accidentally stumbled onto one that is really easy to install, it's pretty cheap, and it works and looks great IMO

Thanks Kevin. So I can spend the money on a protune, or gauges to tune myself?

My Omori gauges are super responsive and I like them a lot. They even have threshold lights you can set for any value. However, the EGT sending units have had short lifespans and now I'm told that they don't even make the sending unit for my 3 year old gauge anymore. :unamused:

http://www.j-spectuning.com/images/a...el_pod_adj.JPG

It's $160 at importimageracing.com

The BF series Defi's come with simple mounting cups, no pod needed if you just want to slap it on the steering column. But I'm not sure if that's the same for the gauge you ordered.

http://www.kaixenkits.com/

I got my kit from someone on nasioc, but that's their website. I'm really happy with it, but it seems like they raised their prices. I remember the $250 neighborhood. In any case, I'm sure that just about any plug n play kit is probably just as good as the next one.

Here's a pic of my 6000K Kaixen kit (and angel eyes, and recently added foglights)

http://emob307.photobucket.com/album...t/228a7349.jpg

I think the racer series also come with the little cups with sticky backing. At least mine did.

I think these prosport gauges look pretty cool.

Check these out: http://www.crucialracing.com/products/hid.php