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Bob Danger 2006-05-19 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
That's what this weekend is for dude. Get to it!

Its not so much the time that I need, but the funds.

Kevin M 2006-05-23 05:38 PM

So, anybody want to buy space on the floor for friday and saturday night?

Dean 2006-05-24 03:20 PM

I think I have a spare bed... Will know later.

dknv 2006-05-24 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
So, anybody want to buy space on the floor for friday and saturday night?

Are you trying to find a roommate? Or re: Dean's post, you are looking for a spare?

And, if someone is giving up their room, please let me know.

tysonK 2006-05-24 03:32 PM

I signed up but now it looks like work is going to own me. bah.

dknv 2006-05-24 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Yeah, I tried to get an online res, but I haven't heard back. I will try to call tomorrow.

I also did the online res early this month, and just today found out they never got the reservation entered. :mad:

MattR 2006-05-24 04:34 PM

Yes, I learned after Hawthorne 2003, that their registration process consists of nothing more than a card file, entered manually by the attendant. I called for my reservation on May2, and it's scary because the confirmation # they gave me is pretty much...0502... great system.

MattR 2006-05-24 04:54 PM

Oh, I just called the El Crap and I was given a phone # that goes right to reservations...The 800 # is having issues so they may not answer that.

775-945-3321.

Sounds like they are full, but if you are still looking for a room, the lady said there are usually some late cancellations on Friday morning.

Kevin M 2006-05-24 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv
Are you trying to find a roommate? Or re: Dean's post, you are looking for a spare?

And, if someone is giving up their room, please let me know.

Yeah, another roomate would be nice. $75 a night sucks. :(

Nick Koan 2006-05-24 06:03 PM

$75 a night?

I thought the rate was $38?

Kevin M 2006-05-24 06:27 PM

that's at the Crapitan. Best Inn is the nicest and therefore most expensive place in town.

Nick Koan 2006-05-24 08:58 PM

Well, I guess you get what you pay for :lol:

or, if your case you pay for what you get. The first part more applies to my cheap ass

Dean 2006-05-26 05:27 AM

Weather forcast is not typical for a N-S weekend!!!!

Forcast is a high of 61 degrees for Sat, and 67 for Sun. with chance of precip. both days. Bring layers/warmer clothes, and wind/rain stuff.

dknv 2006-05-26 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Forcast is a high of 61 degrees for Sat, and 67 for Sun. with chance of precip. both days. Bring layers/warmer clothes, and wind/rain stuff.

No fair, you guys are going to be gaining more power! (More ammunition for the newletter series on pax fairness ;) .)

Dean 2006-05-26 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dknv
No fair, you guys are going to be gaining more power! (More ammunition for the newletter series on pax fairness ;) .)

Us guys? Those of us in NA Miatas? Yes, we will, just like the NA RX-8s... :P

dknv 2006-05-26 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Us guys? Those of us in NA Miatas? Yes, we will, just like the NA RX-8s... :P

Oops!! Your avatar is messing me up! :lol:

aside, I guess the pool party is going to be a bit dry this year.

Dean 2006-05-26 08:33 AM

I'm headed back after Pizza anyway. Stuff to do Monday.

A1337STI 2006-05-26 10:35 AM

El craption is out of rooms. Who still has space left they are trying to sell ? I'm down for a Cot / extra bed . my other option is to camp out at the autox site. I'de be nice an early but very grimey by the end of sunday. :lol:

Kevin M 2006-05-26 10:37 AM

So, who is planning on leaving at one time? I was thinking I would leave a little later in the evening, like 6-6:30 to keep the drive a little cooler, but the weather is pretty nice, so I'm not picky about when.

Nick Koan 2006-05-26 10:43 AM

I'm trying to take a half-day here, and get on the road by 2 or 3.

Dean 2006-05-26 10:53 AM

I am guessing I won't leave until about 4-5...

A1337STI 2006-05-26 10:54 AM

I just schedualed an alignment my employer is nice enough to let me take a 2 hour lunch , and make up the extra hour after work. so the earliest i could leave is 6:00 from work. and i still need to pack. :lol: I may need to pack my Tent depending on if anyone has a extra room. I'm thinking about packing up my snow tires incase it rains, they have WAY better wet traction then my RE070s ...

Dean 2006-05-26 11:00 AM

I packed this morning, but now the weather is looking even colder. may have to go home for a sweatshirt, or jacket.

Kevin M 2006-05-26 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI
I just schedualed an alignment my employer is nice enough to let me take a 2 hour lunch , and make up the extra hour after work. so the earliest i could leave is 6:00 from work. and i still need to pack. :lol: I may need to pack my Tent depending on if anyone has a extra room. I'm thinking about packing up my snow tires incase it rains, they have WAY better wet traction then my RE070s ...

You don't want to run your snows at autocross.

Pat R. 2006-05-26 11:54 AM

Is the Holiday Lodge a decent place? I just got off the phone with them- $45/ night.

rubberbiscuitt 2006-05-26 12:03 PM

i won't be able to race, but my kid and i might be going through hawthorne in time to help set up. we're going to vegas for the weekend.

Dean 2006-05-26 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R.
Is the Holiday Lodge a decent place? I just got off the phone with them- $45/ night.

Room + bed + shower = decent... Can't be picky at this late date I don't think.

Nick Koan 2006-05-26 01:09 PM

is early registration going to be at the El Capitan?

A1337STI 2006-05-26 02:16 PM

guess i should call up the holiday lodge then
so btw, the postings on IWSTI is correct, the 2005 STI comes stock with postive front camber, and -1.5 Rear . The guys at Lilly's told me the front was set to +.25 :huh: all they could get out of her was -0.6 (has to be a lot better then running around with positive up front though) they took longer then they said but oh wells.

Kevin M 2006-05-26 02:26 PM

Alex, I've got floor space available if you want to save a buck or two.

bruspeed 2006-05-26 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Alex, I've got floor space available if you want to save a buck or two.

Which means......

room cost= $71

Alex's cost= $69

Kevin's cost= $2

Alex's saving = +- $2

A1337STI 2006-05-26 02:53 PM

oh only $2 for floor space ? well Crapples i'de better hop on that :P lol
i'm hoping if its floor only like $30 ish , or if they can roll in a cot then 1/2 :) (call me selfish but i'm not gonna pay half price and sleep on the floor 2 nights in a row while someone else pays the same and gets a bed) lol

Bob Danger 2006-05-26 04:30 PM

Hope you guys kick some Vegas ass this weekend.

A1337STI 2006-05-26 04:39 PM

Hell Yeah :) guess i should look up directions at some point before i leave huh? maybe i should even print numbers now just in case i'm suppost to have those.. hmff

A1337STI 2006-05-26 05:10 PM

my cell num is getting there :)

Joeyy 2006-05-27 10:26 AM

Hope one or two of you will post how Saturday went. I'm sitting up here in Truckee watching the snow fall and should be down with you all. Thanks for any updated, this is killing me.

Nick Koan 2006-05-28 09:29 PM

We wonzors

Kevin M 2006-05-28 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
We wonzors

Werd. Total domination. They didn't win a class except for uncontested, and we beat them even WITHOUT our street tire handicap numbers- straight average raw time by class. Also, they didn't win a class except a couple uncontested ones. Ren-own3d. :D

Nick Koan 2006-05-28 10:17 PM

Some pics from run group 2 on Saturday

http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1292_small.jpg

http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1310_small.jpg

http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1320_small.jpg

http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1325_small.jpg

http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1339_small.jpg

http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1344_small.jpg

http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1289_small.jpg

doubleurx 2006-05-28 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Some pics from run group 2 on Saturday


http://www.neurosybir.net/nkoan/imag...1289_small.jpg


Holy crap! Was Dean skewered by a cone?!

Alas we will miss him he who's favorite color was red!


















No..........................Silver, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

MattR 2006-05-29 07:24 AM

That was an event for the ages...wow what a battle Scott and I had...Everyone drove really well, I had a great time this weekend.

Joeyy 2006-05-29 08:23 AM

More pictures, more pictures, more pictures..... How was the course? Fast or tight or both?

SlickNick112 2006-05-29 09:49 AM

Show what the course was like. Map it out. What were the times like?

Nick Koan 2006-05-29 11:03 AM

There were some left turns, some right turns. A few slaloms, etc...

It may sound wierd, but it was high speed, but tight as well. It was the fastest (mph wise) I've ever been at a solo event, but I was still significantly off the pace and it wasn't due to an HP deficit.

Dean 2006-05-29 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickNick112
Show what the course was like. Map it out. What were the times like?

Drag start slightly diagonal left.
Right 2 stay right at exit.
Light brake into Left 2 opens into off camber at exit
Left 3
Right 3
Left 3 through wall
Right 3 through wall
Left 3, wall at exit.
....

cody 2006-05-29 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Werd. Total domination. They didn't win a class except for uncontested, and we beat them even WITHOUT our street tire handicap numbers- straight average raw time by class. Also, they didn't win a class except a couple uncontested ones. Ren-own3d. :D

Sweet! :)

Kevin M 2006-05-29 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cody
Sweet! :)

Especially the part where I repeated myself in a single post. :lol: Damn I must have been tired last night.

sperry 2006-05-29 04:13 PM

I'll agree with Matt, it was an excellent event competition-wise. Though most the competition was amongst us Reno folk, and not so much with Vegas... I think it has a lot to do with our normal events being of a higher average speed than Vegas' normal events. Our drivers simply have more experience/exposure to the higher speed type events.

Which brings me to the shitty part of the weekend. For the second time in 3 years, a driver lost control of their vehicle and slid off course into a course worker. Chalk it up to a "freak" incident, or to driver inexperience (the driver was a young kid from Vegas driving a WRX), but once again there was an ambulance needed at a Solo event... IMO, Hawthorne should be removed from the schedule. If we wish to continue the N/S Challenge we either need a new location that isn't runway based, or we need to split locations... one year hold it at Stead, the next at Vegas' "home" location.

As far as the guy hit, I don't specifically remember meeting him, but he's from Reno, name's Ed, drives a white supercharged Miata. He got hit be the sliding car's left rear door in his back, which whipped his head into the C-pilar above the door. The window was smashed out, the door had a big dimple in it, and the C-pillar was banged up. Ed suffered a deep gash to his head, a concussion, and several chipped vertebrae. He's going to be laid up for a while healing, but he should make a full recovery. The real shitty part is that he starts a new job on Tuesday, which means he currently has no health insurance. I'm not sure what a care-flight from Hawthorne to Washoe Med, CT scans, pain meds, etc, cost but I can guarentee this poor kid will be paying for it for a long while. :(

tysonK 2006-05-29 04:22 PM

Ed made it out to the after party at Bully's after the first event. I talked with him awhile about just moving here. I think he has a wife also.

That's such a terrible situation.

Dean 2006-05-29 04:54 PM

The site is actually plenty large enough to not use the taxiways at all, and still make a 40+ second course. My guess is that National will not approve another course that uses the taxiways.

The problem with them is they are narrow and have a significant crown.

Due to the narrow width, there is little to do but slalom to reduce speeds, and slaloms are extrmely upsetting to cars. When combined with the off-camberness of the crown they can cause small mistakes to turn into high speed course exits in fairly random directions as we have seen.

IMHO the only way to continue to use that site safely is to stop using the taxiways, which is not likely to go over well with the general membership of the two regions.

You could continue to push wokkers further off the side, but that dosn't fix the problem, and the next incident may well be a roll over that could involve the loss of limbs due to open windows or worse...


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