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MattR 2007-09-24 06:39 AM

Looks like race winner Carl Edwards' car failed post-race inspection for being below the minimum required height. This could really hurt his chase chances depending on what kind of points penalty they lay down.

Dean 2007-09-24 07:15 AM

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...ver/index.html

Max points unless they find something super intentional appears to be 25 points. Would move him from 4th to 6th.

tysonK 2007-09-30 05:17 PM

wtf Kansas.

That was a messed up race.

Dean 2007-09-30 06:52 PM

You know what they are going to be saying next week... We're not in Kansas any more.... :)

MattR 2007-09-30 07:40 PM

Yeah, I think that finish was embarrassing.

Dean 2007-09-30 08:08 PM

Thinking about it, the majority of the Kansas crashes were due to the "old" car. If it had been a COT race, the bumpers would have lined up and the spins and hood damage likely wouldn't have happened.

I think this was the last race for the old car, but might be mistaken. I say goodbye and good riddance though if it was.

The new car is safer, requires more driver skill and so far has produced some great racing IMHO.

Talladega next week!

Joeyy 2007-10-05 07:05 PM

Every driver interviewed said the same thing after practice today. "I can't see!" They can't see out the back of the car and can't look through the car in front of them.

The drivers asked Nascar to make the wicker on the rear wing clear after the first test of the COT at Dega but nothing was done. Now they're all running down to the local Target store and purchasing all kinds of extra mirrors.

On a possitive note. Scott Speed did very well in the Arca race today. Go Scott!... Currently, I think he's scheduled to run the full Arca schedule in 08.

http://www.arcaracing.com/component/...26/Itemid,164/

Dean 2007-10-08 07:24 AM

Talladega was the worst race so far this season.

The first 10-20 laps and the last 10-20 laps were the only ones worth watching.

Super speedways, restrictor plates and gear rules suck!

It was like watching the same 43 car freight train go by 188 times.

[insert bored or snoring smiley that we don't have here.]

skimonkey30 2007-10-08 11:22 AM

I fast forwarded through most of the race this weekend as I couldnt stand to watch the "freight train"

I think I watched maybe 60 laps total. NASCAR needs to do something to make the super speedway racing with the COT more interesting

MattR 2007-10-08 11:38 AM

I totally agree. Even Dale Jr said it sucked before his engine dropped.

Dean 2007-10-08 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skimonkey30 (Post 107298)
I fast forwarded through most of the race this weekend as I couldnt stand to watch the "freight train"

I think I watched maybe 60 laps total. NASCAR needs to do something to make the super speedway racing with the COT more interesting

It's not the COT, it is the restrictor plate, the gear rule and the fact that super speedways are just too damn big to be interesting. The old car wasn't any better, it just didn't have the same downforce so there were more crashes, not more competition.

AtomicLabMonkey 2007-10-08 06:56 PM

They've needed to do the same damned thing for years, and they refuse to do it - take off the restrictor plates, and give the bodies more drag & less downforce to keep the lap speeds down. There were great races at Talladega & Daytona 20 years ago before plates, and they were run with boxy, draggy cars. It's not like there have been any other fundamental advances in Cup car design; the big gains in speed have mostly come from aerodynamics because everything else has been so limited by the rulebook.

sperry 2007-10-08 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey (Post 107384)
They've needed to do the same damned thing for years, and they refuse to do it - take off the restrictor plates, and give the bodies more drag & less downforce to keep the lap speeds down. There were great races at Talladega & Daytona 20 years ago before plates, and they were run with boxy, draggy cars. It's not like there have been any other fundamental advances in Cup car design; the big gains in speed have mostly come from aerodynamics because everything else has been so limited by the rulebook.

They just need to run parachutes on the cars.

Dean 2007-10-19 11:59 AM

Another short track COT weekend at Martinsville...

I hope the race is as good as Bristol. I know a bunch of people didn't like it, but I thought it was great.

The track being flatter may make it more difficult to get 3 wide all the way around, but maybe not.

Joeyy 2007-10-20 05:31 PM

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER...












The trucks had a freakin slam fest today. Our boy from north of the border got down right punted and took a hard hit into the inside wall. Nextel Cup points could really get fudged up if tomarrow is the same.

Dean 2007-10-21 03:23 PM

That is what is known as a Cluster Truck! Times 2.

They really should have progressive banked this track like Bristol when they repaved it.

MattR 2007-10-21 04:29 PM

Yes, I don't watch Martinsville races with any interest anymore, there is no way to pass, so everyone just bumps cars around. I mean, come on...21 cautions today :rolleyes: that's not fun to watch. They need to redo this track or remove it from the schedule. It looked like the stands were less than half full today, that should tell NASCAR something.

Joeyy 2007-10-21 04:34 PM

Rowdy Bush actually was making the kinda second lane work well for him until he got up to the top five cars. Hope he gets some good equipment next year and the team can figure out the Toyota.

Dean 2007-10-27 03:14 PM

NASCAR has got to get rid of these 1 groove only way to pass is to push the guy in front of you out of the way tracks.

Today's Busch race was just plain stupid. 25 cautions and almost 1/2 the laps under yellow... :rolleyes:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want more 3 wide clean racing like Bristol.

AtomicLabMonkey 2007-10-28 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 108722)
I want more 3 wide clean racing like Bristol.

Now there's something I never thought I'd hear.

MattR 2007-10-28 10:29 AM

It's true...That race at Memphis was a sham! embarrassing even. Anytime a race has that many incidents, it loses all flow, most strategy, and drags. I've seen some good races at mempis, but after yesterday, damn, I doubt I'l sit through another one.

Dean 2007-10-28 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey (Post 108731)
Now there's something I never thought I'd hear.

I know, who'd have thunk it? I think it stunned so many of the Bristol fans that the didn't recognize how good the racing was since there were so few crashes.

Short of the road courses, it was some of the best damn racing I've seen in quite a while. In many ways it was better than the road courses. Where else can you drive 3 wide all the way around the track and be the fastest in any of those lanes. Incredible.

MattR 2007-10-28 02:37 PM

OMG! Atlanta was another Circus finish...Denny Hamlin's crew chief should be fired for his stupididty...Nice to take out all those good cars based on a fuel calculation that left them 3 laps short :rolleyes: What a bone-head move that was. You cannot gamble on your fuel when it leaves you in a position at the HEAD of the pack, and run out of gas at the restart....Dumbass.

Anyway, Yimmy-Yay is always in the right place at the right time...that's why they are the best team. I think the 48 is on his way to a repeat championship...but I'm still pulling for the 07 in '07.

Dean 2007-10-28 03:44 PM

They gamble like that all the time. It is Denny's fault IMHO. He should have been turning the car on and off and driven around the apron like Tony Stewart did a few races back when they were hoping for a rain out wherever it was. He waited until 100 yards before the start to wiggle the car.

WTF happened to Jr.s wheel Did they even tighten the lugs?

I feel really bad for Truex. He and Kyle were driving with the tails hung out most of the race and then he can't see Denny hasn't gone. All he sees is Boyer take off as he cuts in front of him and around Denny and he eats Denny's back end. His spotter should have been talking to him as far back as he was at that point.

If anybody should be fired it is these jack men that aren't getting the cars off the f'ing ground enough for the tire changers. Most of the front runners got boned by their pit crews at least once, but I think Kyle and Kurt both had multiple F' ups.

Clint needs Jeff and Jimmy to both have at least one really bad race to have a prayer, but it would be good to see him win.

Joeyy 2007-11-10 01:06 PM

Yes!.. Jacques Villeneuve qualifies for his first Nextel Cup race at Phoenix.

Jimmy and Jeff qualified near the front and with only 30 between them with two races to go.

Joeyy 2008-01-10 01:07 AM

Ok, on to 2008. I wanted to cheer on Villeneuve this year but then I found this on Youtube. Not totally sure if I'm ok with this. At this time, he's still looking for a sponsor if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REAqr...eature=related

zpeed 2008-01-10 08:20 AM

He's da man.

AtomicLabMonkey 2008-01-10 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeyy (Post 112557)
Ok, on to 2008. I wanted to cheer on Villeneuve this year but then I found this on Youtube. Not totally sure if I'm ok with this. At this time, he's still looking for a sponsor if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REAqr...eature=related

:lol:

He needs one of his man cards revoked for that.

Nick Koan 2008-01-10 10:35 AM

Eh, he's French Canadian.

That's two mancards automatically revoked.

Dean 2008-01-10 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 112580)
That's two mancards automatically revoked.

What??? Not even...

Classic rag top, hot woman in red silk, he gets my vote. Damn Frenchies with their sexy language get all the hot babes. :)

Joeyy 2008-01-10 12:15 PM

They had some drafting practice at Daytona this week or last. A driver was behind Villeneuve in the draft and said he was impressed. Guess he saw a couple of great saves with Villeneuve never lifting.

I'm going to add Villeneuve to my league pick at least. Figure being a rookie he may not cost that many points to pick.

MattR 2008-06-17 07:53 PM

Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Former Aussie V8 Supercar champ Marcos Ambrose will make his Sprint Cup debut at Infineon Raceway this weekend in the Save Mart 300! The cup cars are fantastic on the road courses...Marcos will be driving the #21 Little Debbie Ford. Also in the field are Scott Pruett, Ron Fellows, Dario Franchitti, JPM, so it should be a blast to watch. Sunday on TNT

AtomicLabMonkey 2008-06-21 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 119797)
Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Former Aussie V8 Supercar champ Marcos Ambrose will make his Sprint Cup debut at Infineon Raceway this weekend in the Save Mart 300! The cup cars are fantastic on the road courses...Marcos will be driving the #21 Little Debbie Ford. Also in the field are Scott Pruett, Ron Fellows, Dario Franchitti, JPM, so it should be a blast to watch. Sunday on TNT

Are you fucking kidding me? One of the TWO road courses they run all year, and they put it on cable instead of network? I hate NASCAR. :mad:

Tahoe C5 2008-06-21 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey (Post 119924)
Are you fucking kidding me? One of the TWO road courses they run all year, and they put it on cable instead of network? I hate NASCAR. :mad:

+1

Dean 2008-06-21 07:50 AM

NASCAR just accepted the highest bid, and if you haven't noticed, the "Networks" are dinosaurs losing more and more market share to "Cable". It is not because Cable is stealing them, they earned them by having the programing people want to watch. Blame the Networks if anybody for not shelling out for what people want to see.

Discovery, Sci-Fi, History, Speed, CNBC... I would guess these make up 90% of my viewing time with the remainder split between other cable and network stations. The networks think we want to watch things like The Bachlorette, The Mole, Desperate Housewives, and the other merde de jour...

Thanks, but no thanks.

Dean 2008-07-04 09:36 AM

The Unstopable Hedrick motorsports in '09!!!
 
Don't think they have a good enough cup team with Jr., Jeff and Jimmy?

OK, thrown in a FULL TIME RIDE for Mark Martin in the 5 car in '09!!!

Talk about a force to be reckoned with.

I like Mark, but probably just because I am old... :)

skimonkey30 2008-07-05 05:38 PM

Great we have "wide open" coverage with less commercials but a huge advertisement bar that takes up 1/4 of the screen throughout the whole race and advertisements during race coverage. :rolleyes:

I hate TNT's Nascar coverage :mad:

oh and kyle petty is fucking annoying

MattR 2008-07-05 05:43 PM

OMG TNT's coverage fucking sucks, I can't take it. Why can't FOX do the whole season?

Dean 2008-07-06 11:54 AM

I kinda like the letterboxed view. For those of us still with low def TVs, it is nice to have the extra width. Kyle is annoying. I have to go get a free Coke Zero though on him... :)

sybir 2008-07-29 03:23 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar...=ESPNHeadlines



That's correct.

Right side tires were wearing heavily at the Brickyard.
NASCAR has vowed to get to the bottom of the issue.

Seriously?
I want that job.

"Yeah, uh, we're still in initial investigations, this is going to take some time. No immediate causes are apparent."

what the christ.

sperry 2008-07-29 11:00 PM

At least more than 6 cars raced.

sybir 2008-07-29 11:51 PM

This is true :D

Dean 2008-08-02 07:21 AM

I'm watching that race now, and OMG... What a Cluster!

Nothing quite like a tire that might last 5-10 laps... Maybe... This is going to be a long race...

The funniest part is the constant Goodyear "Ads" during the telecast by the announcers talking about innovation, etc... HA :lol:

MattR 2008-08-02 09:41 AM

Just fast-forward to the last 15 lap, the rest of the race totally sucks. Nothing happens.

Dean 2008-08-02 03:17 PM

It wasn't that bad, but definitely wasn't anything to write home about...

Now the Nationwide series running in the RAIN on 7 year old rain tires on the road course in Canada... Now there is a race!!!

MattR 2008-08-02 09:13 PM

Goddam, too bad Marcos doesn't have any luck, he put on a driving clinic today.

Dean 2008-08-03 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 122039)
Goddam, too bad Marcos doesn't have any luck, he put on a driving clinic today.

The yellows didn't help, but he did it to himself by speeding on pit lane...

Joeyy 2008-08-03 11:37 AM

Somebody should have been sponsored by RainX.

Dean 2008-08-04 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeyy (Post 122044)
Somebody should have been sponsored by RainX.

Yea, they need to work on their wiper-wind tunnel testing...

Joeyy 2008-08-04 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 122061)
Yea, they need to work on their wiper-wind tunnel testing...

I rarely even use my windshield wipers on the freeway becasue I have so much RainX on my windshield. Just down on city streets going slow with peds around do I use my windshield wipers.


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