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Nick Koan 2008-02-07 09:39 AM

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A few more from the side.

The coloring does look very Indian to me. I think they did a good job with this livery.

sperry 2008-02-13 02:40 PM

Looks like Honda is still off the pace.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...13195754.shtml

Not quite what I was expecting after last year's "our wind tunnel was misconfigured and we didn't know it until it was too late" claim. If their wind tunnel was recalibrated properly, shouldn't they have a better car this season?

Dean 2008-02-17 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS (Post 114558)
I don't think NASCAR is bad racing because it's different than F1. I think it's bad because it could be so much better at what it tries to be.

And F1 couldn't be better? Let me know when you find a perfect race series.

Feel free to discuss the virtues of F1 here in the meantime. :P

sperry 2008-02-17 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 114559)
And F1 couldn't be better? Let me know when you find a perfect race series.

Feel free to discuss the virtues of F1 here in the meantime. :P

This is the forum for discussing the '08 F1 season. If you want to discuss the virtues of F1, do it in the unofficial F1 thread. :roll:

van 2008-02-20 03:44 PM

Renault makes Alonso highest-paid driver, will earn $2.6 mil per race
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/20/r...n-2-6-mil-per/

sperry 2008-02-20 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by van (Post 114797)
Renault makes Alonso highest-paid driver, will earn $2.6 mil per race
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/20/r...n-2-6-mil-per/

That's a shame. Renault's gonna need that money if it plans on providing Alonso with a car fast enough to stay in front of McLaren and Ferrari. I hope Alonso can enjoy that cash from 5th place all season long.

MikeK 2008-02-20 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 114799)
I hope Alonso can enjoy that cash from 5th place all season long.

If not maybe I can coach him. I would enjoy the shit out of $2.6 million even from last place.

Nick Koan 2008-03-03 09:15 AM

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Williams finally debuts their FW30 with the 08 livery.

I like how deep they took the blue. Looks very dark.

sperry 2008-03-03 11:30 AM

Very monochromatic.... they should have put just the smallest bit of bright red or yellow in there too.

sperry 2008-03-04 11:41 PM

Flav's going off the deep end:

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...o-predictable/

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Originally Posted by Briatore
Italian Renault team boss Flavio Briatore came up with a radical idea to shake-up Formula 1 and to get things interesting again. Briatore believes Formula 1 races are taking too long and are predictable.

"The races are too long and predictable," he told Italian radio station 'Rai'. "Things would be much more interesting when the fastest driver would start from the back at the grid. They would be able to overtake and the spectacle would benefit."

I'm sure he'd love to see his driver start at the back every race. So much so, I totally bet he wouldn't tell Alonso to lift during qualifying to start closer to the front. :roll:

tysonK 2008-03-05 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 115360)
Flav's going off the deep end:

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...o-predictable/



I'm sure he'd love to see his driver start at the back every race. So much so, I totally bet he wouldn't tell Alonso to lift during qualifying to start closer to the front. :roll:

They could call the the guys from Pinks All Out and ask them how they keep it fair with no lifting!

Nick Koan 2008-03-05 12:50 PM

Yeah, you'd have to start giving out equal points to qualifying positions as well or something to keep drivers from "sabotaging" their qualifying.

But then if you put qualifying single lap times at the same championship level as the race points, you'd probably see a bunch of qualifying specials that can't sustain race pace.

Nick Koan 2008-03-13 08:03 PM

OMG Practice Looks awesome in HD!

sperry 2008-03-13 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 115584)
OMG Practice Looks awesome in HD!

Die.

Or, lemme come over and watch.

Nick Koan 2008-03-13 09:53 PM

Well, if you want to come over and watch quali tomorrow night, that's cool, but I'll be out of town for the race (you'll just have to pester Jason).

skimonkey30 2008-03-14 08:35 AM

its really on in HD on speed???

I'm so glad I ordered direct tv :D

Nick Koan 2008-03-14 08:44 AM

It looks like 480p to me (I'm still not smart enough to find that info on my DVR yet), but it is in widescreen format. What is funny, though, is that all the feed graphics are centered on the screen like where they would be placed for a normal aspect ratio. And all the shots seem to be framed for a standard resolution, so you really aren't seeing anything interesting in the widescreen, except more trackside walls, more grass and more grandstands. Only in the rare case when they zoom in close (say to talk about a new faring or something) do you really see more car. Garage shots also seem to show a few extra bodies shuffling around.

They probably just film it in the widest format possible, but frame it (and place the feed graphics on it) for the smallest ratio, and all the different TV stations around the world can crop as needed. And as always, since it is digitally broadcast now, it still looks much better than regular speed.

MikeK 2008-03-14 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 115584)
OMG Practice Looks awesome in HD!

Hi res green trousers!

Nick Koan 2008-03-14 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK (Post 115635)
Hi res green trousers!

They are literally blinding in HD.

Though, the same can probably be said about seeing them in SD and in real life.

skimonkey30 2008-03-14 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 115632)
It looks like 480p to me (I'm still not smart enough to find that info on my DVR yet), but it is in widescreen format. What is funny, though, is that all the feed graphics are centered on the screen like where they would be placed for a normal aspect ratio. And all the shots seem to be framed for a standard resolution, so you really aren't seeing anything interesting in the widescreen, except more trackside walls, more grass and more grandstands. Only in the rare case when they zoom in close (say to talk about a new faring or something) do you really see more car. Garage shots also seem to show a few extra bodies shuffling around.

They probably just film it in the widest format possible, but frame it (and place the feed graphics on it) for the smallest ratio, and all the different TV stations around the world can crop as needed. And as always, since it is digitally broadcast now, it still looks much better than regular speed.

still better then non-HD! I cant wait till April 1 now :D

MattR 2008-03-14 05:26 PM

than

Nick Koan 2008-03-14 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR (Post 115661)
than

phew, it wasn't me this time.

skimonkey30 2008-03-15 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR (Post 115661)
than

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...y30/Finger.jpg

Dean 2008-03-15 10:08 PM

OMG! If all F1 races were like this one, they would be much more interesting. :P

Double Phister 2008-03-15 10:52 PM

what a mess.

sperry 2008-03-18 10:40 AM

Looks like STR is up for sale:

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...ia-toro-rosso/

Anyone wanna go in on an F1 Team with me? I figure we just need like 5 people with $50M each to get us a single season. We'll call it "Groupe SECCS F1"! Who's in!?

skimonkey30 2008-03-24 09:58 AM

Massa is a joke

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...23125024.shtml

strange behaviour on the rear :rolleyes:

I hope the rumors are true and Ferrari do put Vettel in the car

sperry 2008-03-24 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by skimonkey30 (Post 116156)
Massa is a joke

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...23125024.shtml

strange behaviour on the rear :rolleyes:

I hope the rumors are true and Ferrari do put Vettel in the car

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"I don't know what happened, I just lost the car completely," he was quoted as explaining to the British broadcaster ITV.

"There was strange behaviour on the rear, so I don't know," the Brazilian added.
Meh, it's Massa. He's well known to push too hard... kinda of a win or crash trying sort of driver. I'm sure he was just pushing to catch Kimi so he could pass him during the next round of pit stops, and lost the rear end due to being used to traction control, but I don't think he thought he was as close to the limit as he ended up being.

So, I'd call that "strange behaviour" if I was really used to TC too, to suddenly spin when you're at 9/10ths. It was unexpected and it caught him out. I don't see him really shirking the responsibility of the spin... I think he was probably genuinely surprised it happened.

MattR 2008-03-24 12:42 PM

Win it or Bin it!

Nick Koan 2008-03-24 03:24 PM

I just think this needs to be re-emphasized.

spoiler if you haven't watched malaysia yet.


From the press conference regarding spraying champagne on the podium:

“We should put it in the mouth, not in the eye,” Kimi joked

[url=http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/161146-0/kimi_votes_to_drink_champagne_not_spray_it.html]Link to article[/url]

Joeyy 2008-03-24 09:20 PM

Just finished watching the race. It was a pleasure with a stack of new tires around my chair.

Nick Koan 2008-03-31 09:09 AM

Ooh, Max Mosely in a sex scandal.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/30/f...m-sex-scandal/

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The video reportedly depicts Mosley engaging the services of five prostitutes in London to stage a perverse reenactment of a Nazi concentration camp in which Mosley plays both victim and oppressor, alternately receiving lashes from a dominatrix and barking orders in German to the prostitutes dressed in pseudo-Auschwitz uniforms. The son of infamous wartime British fascist leader Oswald Mosley, who married Max's mother Diana in the presence of Adolf Hitler at a ceremony in the home of Nazi arch-propagandist Joseph Goebbels, Mosley had tried to help resuscitate his father's fascist political career before leaving politics for the world of motor racing.
Damn, I knew he had ties to the British Socialist party, but that's just fucking weird right there.

sperry 2008-03-31 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 116374)
Ooh, Max Mosely in a sex scandal.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/30/f...m-sex-scandal/



Damn, I knew he had ties to the British Socialist party, but that's just fucking weird right there.

LOLWUT!?!

That sounds too over the top to be true.

Nick Koan 2008-04-01 04:17 PM

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66276

Mosely saying he's sorry to the FIA but is going to stay on and pursue legal action against the newspaper. Also, he's denying the the Nazi portions of the story, but not the story as a whole.

And now it got boring. Let he who doesn't want a five hooker non-Nazi themed s&m orgy cast the first stone.

sperry 2008-04-01 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 116476)
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66276

Mosely saying he's sorry to the FIA but is going to stay on and pursue legal action against the newspaper. Also, he's denying the the Nazi portions of the story, but not the story as a whole.

And now it got boring. Let he who doesn't want a five hooker non-Nazi themed s&m orgy cast the first stone.

Meh. This is non-news. Just like the whole Clinton/Lewinsky crap, if it doesn't have any bearing on his job, it's just sensationalism bullshit. It'd be nice to live in a world where that crap coming out would just be ignored by the media because the public simply would care. But since we live in a world full of rubberneckers, this junk sells advertisement space, and new we get to wade through stuff like this down to crap like Entertainment Tonight.

skimonkey30 2008-04-28 11:00 AM

That was one hell of a hit kovalainen took

I was suprised by alonso's pace in the qualifying & GP. I wonder if the engine failure had anything to do with Renault allowing alonso to turn up the revs on his engine. I remember Machette mentioning something during the race about that with another driver after a radio conversation (heidfeld i think) or if the pace of the renault is really up there with the big 3.

sperry 2008-04-28 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by skimonkey30 (Post 117824)
That was one hell of a hit kovalainen took

I was suprised by alonso's pace in the qualifying & GP. I wonder if the engine failure had anything to do with Renault allowing alonso to turn up the revs on his engine. I remember Machette mentioning something during the race about that with another driver after a radio conversation (heidfeld i think) or if the pace of the renault is really up there with the big 3.

I think it's some of column A and some of column B. Renault's been working since the start of the season on the car Alonso used in Spain, so they may have appeared off pace at the fly-away races more than they really were simply because they were running an older spec car that didn't have all the new bits they had been testing since the season started. Plus, for his home GP, Alonso was running light on fuel in Q3 and aggressive with the revs... sort of a go or go home approach, as he really seemed to want to give his home crowd something to cheer about.

I'd say that Ferrari is currently the team to beat, and that McLaren is just a tick behind them. BMW and Renault are neck and neck for 3rd fastest, as it seems Renault's stepped up their game a touch starting in Spain. It'll be fun to watch them battle it out.

I just hope Super Aguri can come up with a deal to get them to finish out the season. :(

skimonkey30 2008-04-28 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 117825)
I think it's some of column A and some of column B. Renault's been working since the start of the season on the car Alonso used in Spain, so they may have appeared off pace at the fly-away races more than they really were simply because they were running an older spec car that didn't have all the new bits they had been testing since the season started. Plus, for his home GP, Alonso was running light on fuel in Q3 and aggressive with the revs... sort of a go or go home approach, as he really seemed to want to give his home crowd something to cheer about.

I'd say that Ferrari is currently the team to beat, and that McLaren is just a tick behind them. BMW and Renault are neck and neck for 3rd fastest, as it seems Renault's stepped up their game a touch starting in Spain. It'll be fun to watch them battle it out.

I just hope Super Aguri can come up with a deal to get them to finish out the season. :(

I agree that ferrari is definitely the team to beat :D

I as well hope super best friends can make the grid the rest of the season

MattR 2008-04-28 07:24 PM

We have like $134 left in the SECCS account....I vote we help Super happy best friends!!!!

sperry 2008-04-28 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR (Post 117883)
We have like $134 left in the SECCS account....I vote we help Super happy best friends!!!!

If I was some rich bastard, I'd totally kick down the $XXX million needed to save Super Aguri. I just love seeing them scrap it out with the big boys 'cause every now and then you get to see Sato put a sick ass pass on Alonso for position and points. :devil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRJwZu5Qqio

The real problem w/ SA is that next season they're going to lose quite a bit of help from Honda as the FIA rules prevent factory B teams like SA and STR who are going to have to stand on their own... which means SA it just got a lot more expensive for SA to be competitive in '09. :(

sperry 2008-05-01 12:17 PM

This week in "As the F1 World Turns":

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...01095246.shtml

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Ron Dennis has vehemently denied suggestions that he could be the unknown figure behind the covert investigation that triggered the Max Mosley sex scandal.

Mosley, who faces a confidence vote in his FIA Presidency next month, recently openly questioned the origin of the News of the World revelations.

He wrote in a letter to FIA affiliates in April that he had been pursued not by the tabloid newspaper, but for "reasons and clients as yet unknown."

The scandal aroused suspicions that Dennis may have ordered the investigation into Mosley's private life, in retaliation for the devastating 'spy scandal' and penalties of 2007.

"I categorically deny that I have anything to do with the News of the World's investigation into Mr Mosley," Dennis, chairman of the McLaren Group, told the Times.

He also denied that 'anyone' connected with his company, or anyone acting on his behalf, had anything to do with the revelations.


Dennis has written to Czech Automobile Association chief Radovan Novak, who recently intimated on Prague radio that the spy and sex scandals may share Dennis as the common link, for a clarification of his remarks.

Dennis confirmed that he is looking for Novak, a close ally of Mosley's, to "withdraw or correct" his statements.

It emerged just this week that Mosley has engaged an expert detective agency, Quest, to identify the source of the News of the World story.
:lol:

Right, next thing we'll find out is that the camera man was Ross Braun, and that the French hookers were Flavio Briatore's illegitimate daughters, and that Fernando Alonso is actually a shape-shifting alien from area 51 that Bernie Ecclestone bought from the US government and made to look like a Spaniard to promote the sport because Mosley owes the King of Spain a favor for overlooking his underground drug cartel that he runs out of Madrid.

I mean, if you're going to make up sensational stories, at least make them plausible.

sperry 2008-05-02 08:46 AM

Looks like Super Aguri might just make it! :D

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...eigl-is-close/

skimonkey30 2008-05-02 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 118116)
Looks like Super Aguri might just make it! :D

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...eigl-is-close/

fucking Honda

they killed the deal with Weigl earlier and couldve saved themselves millions last weekend but no NOW the deal is ok

MattR 2008-05-02 01:23 PM

Polly Shore should be the spokesman for Weigl. "I'm the Weeeeeeigl, buuuuuuddy!". That is all.

sperry 2008-05-02 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR (Post 118129)
Polly Shore should be the spokesman for Weigl. "I'm the Weeeeeeigl, buuuuuuddy!". That is all.

:lol:

You doin' okay there Matt?

MattR 2008-05-03 05:53 AM

No, it's been a long month. Hahaha.

sperry 2008-05-05 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by skimonkey30 (Post 118118)
fucking Honda

they killed the deal with Weigl earlier and couldve saved themselves millions last weekend but no NOW the deal is ok

Fucking Honda, indeed. :mad:

Looks like they're going to vote down this deal as well... and in order to save themselves the embarrassment of asking SA to leave Turkey, they've been locked out of the track by Honda and Bernie. :furious:

This is fucking weak. Why in the world would anyone (Honda, FIA, F1, etc) be opposed to having a team race? There must be something I'm missing about why Honda is so opposed to Weigl buying out Super Aguri.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...05154932.shtml

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...03110329.shtml

Nick Koan 2008-05-06 07:02 AM

Looks like SA is done for.

http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?T...42515&PO=42515

sperry 2008-05-06 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 118218)

So sad. :(

You'd think there'd be some rich-ass company out there that would jump at the chance to back the team, at least get them through the season. And what's the deal w/ SS United and the "breach of contract". If they agreed to pay SA X dollars for the season, and the renege on the agreement, doesn't SA deserve some sort of legal satisfaction over the issue?

Nick Koan 2008-05-06 09:22 AM

Well from the looks of things, SS United doesn't even exist anymore either, so it might be hard to go after them. According to the Wikipedia page, the company website has been down ever since they defaulted on their sponsorship check.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Unit...26_Gas_Company


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