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You've been so much help Juicy. :lol:
Wow Dean, you really are running out of advice. :P Why do you think I'm just sitting around chumming the waters...I'm driving on the RE01R's happily at the moment. My Rotas just look better so I want to put something cheap on them. :lol: |
So, move your autocross tires over to them and stop whining.
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Man, you aren't living up to your title in this thread at all. :P Why waste expensive, awesome autox tires on the street. I'm looking into hooking up some Kumho Ecsta SPT's for wholesale. Keep your cheap bastard fingers crossed! :lol:
Oh, and the Enkei's are a couple pounds lighter than the Rota's which is one of the reasons I run use them for AutoX. Also I have 2 full size spares with burnt RT615's on them. |
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I guess the best recommendation I can make is to throw out the super-cheap requirement and get something like the Falken 912s, or the newest version of those Toyos you've said in the past you really liked. It's either that, or go with something economical that you won't like getting caught in snow on, or want to autocross unless it's the difference between getting 6 or 8 points in the last event weekend or none. But if there was a very cheap, 3-year tire that approached a true snow tire in winter and a high performance tire at autocross, it wouldn't have taken us this much thread to come up with it. ;) |
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And it's not "wasting" your autocross tires if you don't use them on the street until after you've had them a season or two. That also makes it easier to stretch your winter tires an extra 4-6 weeks at both ends of winter to almost guarantee you don't catch a snowstorm on your autocross tires. So maybe 3 sets- snows from the day after the last autocross to the day before the first one, fresh tires for competition, and last year's autocross tires from May-September on the street? |
You don't like our answers and keep reposting your requirements like we didn't read them.
I have moved on from advice to ridicule. :) |
Yah, "just mediocre-but-won't-be-disastrous" is all I'm going for with #2.
I know Dean mentioned them. They scored #1 in both TR tests, but they were out of my price range at normal price. |
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Just buy some damn Traction T/A's in the higher speed rating. they are a damn awesome tire, at everything!!!!. not sure if they are as cheap as you want, but closet thing i've driven on. they let my 1 legged 93 drive up spooner on some surprise snow!! great wet and dry, amazing traction on Dirt:D
just go with your stock size, for your stock rims then. Goodyear Eagle GT for 89$ for a 16" BFGoodrich Traction T/A V for $97 , Amazing tire, omfg. |
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CR 2008 All Seasons Ultra High Performance.
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Man, I can't believe how low the Toyo Proxes 4's scored. Maybe the fact that I ran them in 225/50/16 and the ES100's in 215/45/17 explains my skewed view, but the P4's rocked in the dry and wet, lasted a long time, were quiet and cheap and worked as well as the RE92's in the snow. But I know the 912's are better and priced similarly if not less.
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Just buy them in 17's then, or get the good year GTs which are cheaper, and are still rated for snow (and thus ice) I've driven mine on ice. you'll make it, just go slow. they have low snow traction for sure, but its predictable. Dry icey roads its way better then when the snow is a bit wet. so like when its late at night and 20F out, better grip then sunny and 35 with wet snow around. odd but that's what it felt like ...
When i get a new battery in my STI i can let you drive it, to feel the tires. they are good. 215/45ZR17 $98 ! :) Do It !! Cody is a baller with like 5 sets of rims! |
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But wait! Why are the General Exclaim UHP's listed under All Season UHP? And why aren't they kicking ass in the dry and wet??? At least they confirm their great hydroplane resistance but why would they have great rolling resistance with their supposedly soft sidewalls? Can I trust CR? |
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Your STi is awesome on those tires. I can't believe they didn't chunk when you ran on them on Saturday and they were great on tarmac and off when we went on the rally stages a month or so ago. Now where are you seeing them? Tire Rack doesn't have them available in 215/45/17 or 225/45/17. |
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Good find on the CR charts. I will have to go find that article. I missed that they did UHP stuff last year. If you haven't read CR articles in the past, they do not have the same criteria as TR, so it is kind of apples to oranges, though notice the SPT and ZRI still end up right next to each other.
Notice the General's rating on ice and how other than hydroplaning, they are not good at anything else. Heck none of the A/S are really good at much of anything in any conditions! (Who said that before?) The 4th from worst summer tire equals the best A/S in the wet!!! What a huge loss for some minuscule alleged snow performance. :rolleyes: I'll go find the article and see if it has anything interesting in it. |
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Dude... the clearance RE-01Rs were $103 in 225/45R17. YOUR RETARDED. :lol:
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That must be an on-line rating/article, it does not appear in any of the 2008 CR issues I have.
Just buy the SPT or ZRI and be done. A/S suck! |
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Dean, they are from an online article. I'll try to post the text soon. |
There are some 245/40/17 Kuhmo V710s for 170 ish :( $700 for a set of 245 R comps... yummy but i should probably fix my motor(s) first
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I updated posts 60 and 62 which have test results with the "guide to the ratings". Here is the text of the ultra high performance article.
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I was actually thinking the same thing. :lol: I bet I'd find the 912's amazing.
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I only take them at RE01R speed and then I jump the drawbridge.
The 912's would be better suited to my winter rims. I still like the General's at $78 each and the Kumho SPT's for $74 each (if I can get them at wholesale). There's also these. Dunlop SP Sport Maxx http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...maxx_ci2_l.jpg I'd take the $75 Amazon card which might make them a better investment...or at least a more badasser investment. Apparently they ride rough but are quiet. Despite the 240 tread rating, CR says they rate 4/5 for tread life. But I'd have to roll my fenders. http://www.tireboy.com/bridgestone_p...ifications.htm http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...irePageLocQty= |
Or would I? The RE01R's that barely fit have a tread width of 8.3" while the Sport Maxx's are 8.2" but the Sport Maxx's have an overall section width of 9.5" while the RE01R's are 8.9". Does a larger section width mean more bulge and more likely to rub my fender?
See the two links above for a visual representation of what I'm saying. |
They are your streets, get the right size/circumference... You already have a short 5th gear...
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They're .6" shorter than the stock size RE92's in overall diameter according to TireRack.
"When your speedometer reads 60 mph, you're actually going 58.9mph" http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html I have never considered the 5MT to have a short 5th gear and their good rolling resistance rating should make up or help make up for gas milage losses due to their size. Maybe? |
Try driving 1/2 way across the country at max cruise, 89MPH, with a race exhaust and race suspension. You become quite atuned to how high the engine is reving as it drones on hour after hour...
STi in 6th is about 1000 RPM lower at freeway speeds. If you want lower rolling resistance, go to 205 or 215s, not up to 235! BUT THAT WASN'T ON YOUR LIST... :P Just going from 225 to 235 probably gives back any gains due to compound. |
But they'd be so manly! :P
So any guess as to if they'd rub or not? |
Even at $133 I'd probably go with the SPTs personally. Or BFG G-Force Sports.
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Bump for would the Sport Maxx's rub?
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Even though the tread width is .1" narrower?
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Section width is what counts.
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Which is .6" wider on the Maxx's. That's what I figured, thanks.
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=7
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...tire_dimen.gif It is likely that it is .6" difference when the tires are only 10mm different is because the measured rim is different. |
Just get it over with and roll your fenders, then you can stop worrying about rubbing...:D
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I know. As soon as somebody announces a fender roll day, I'm in.
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Yeah, that price is right there with Hankook RS2 and Falken RT615.
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They'd last twice as long though...and behave better on trips.
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