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sperry 2005-04-06 03:26 PM

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Well, the 1st thing to note, is that not all kids are into cars as they grow up. I really wasn't that into 'em until college... I was a computer nerd before then (and some would argue, since then as well). So if your kids aren't motorheads, I don't think there's much to worry about.

I don't know about that... most of the guys in the band in HS weren't car guys at all, and we still ended up playing "car tag" racing WOT around the local neighborhood streets at 1am on a Saturday night. :shock:

Not my group of friends... none of us had fast cars... some had no cars at all. So screwing around on the streets just never happened. Granted, none of us were great drivers (due simply to inexperience) so we had some close-calls, but none of those were due to jackassery.

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-04-06 03:34 PM

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Not my group of friends... none of us had fast cars... some had no cars at all.

It doesn't require having a fast car, just a car. We were out there in celebrated speed demons such as a late 70's GM station wagon, my 87 Jeep, clapped-out Escort, Camry, etc.

It only took a couple times of doing this before I decided it was a Very Bad Idea and I was better off watching movies or other such non-insane activities on the weekends...

MattR 2005-04-06 03:43 PM

My High School Crew had Jeeps and Trucks, and we'd drive over shit before driving fast... (Except for when I had my Maxima :twisted: )...

I got pulled over for driving thru a planter in high school. nuf said.

ShawnS 2005-04-06 04:47 PM

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My High School Crew had Jeeps and Trucks, and we'd drive over shit before driving fast... (Except for when I had my Maxima :twisted: )...

I got pulled over for driving thru a planter in high school. nuf said.

:lol:

In HS, I was into Chevelles and old school VeeDubs.

MikeSTI 2005-04-07 08:38 AM

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Now then, if I had a kid that *was* into cars, I'd do everything I could to help them persue that interest. I'd have no problem helping them to buy and mod their car. I'd support any racing series they're interested in... even if it's drifting or drag racing :lol:. But I'd make it very clear... if you get caught screwing around on the street... it's all over. No car, no racing, no nothing. Your ass is bus bait.

That's EXACTLY how I plan to handle kids when they're learning to drive. It's understandable for young people to simply not believe there's actual danger in driving too carelessly or too fast. But giving them a hard, concrete case of what will happen to them, immediately, if they screw up goes a lot farther towards regulating behavior.

this will not work, sorry it just wont...................case in point is this thread!!!! Kids are not scared of what might happen to them, they are teenagers and think they can not be hurt. Thier really not going to be scared if you want them to be competitive on the track, not to mention as a parent it is real hard to lay down the law and stick with it. Don't you still want to play at the track, well your kids will work there way back also, then what rinse and repeat?

sperry 2005-04-07 08:45 AM

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Now then, if I had a kid that *was* into cars, I'd do everything I could to help them persue that interest. I'd have no problem helping them to buy and mod their car. I'd support any racing series they're interested in... even if it's drifting or drag racing :lol:. But I'd make it very clear... if you get caught screwing around on the street... it's all over. No car, no racing, no nothing. Your ass is bus bait.

That's EXACTLY how I plan to handle kids when they're learning to drive. It's understandable for young people to simply not believe there's actual danger in driving too carelessly or too fast. But giving them a hard, concrete case of what will happen to them, immediately, if they screw up goes a lot farther towards regulating behavior.

this will not work, sorry it just wont...................case in point is this thread!!!! Kids are not scared of what might happen to them, they are teenagers and think they can not be hurt. Thier really not going to be scared if you want them to be competitive on the track, not to mention as a parent it is real hard to lay down the law and stick with it. Don't you still want to play at the track, well your kids will work there way back also, then what rinse and repeat?

I never said that I expected my kids to be scared of driving as a means to keep them safe. However, if s/he has the experience to know how easily a car can get out of shape, and has a legal/safe outlet for driving fast, plus the additional zero tollerance threat of losing their driving privlages, I would hope they'd think long and hard before risking all that to screw around on the street.

MikeSTI 2005-04-07 08:55 AM

I hope your right :wink:

doubleurx 2005-04-07 12:05 PM

Man as soon as Bayley is 16, I'm gonna street race him and kick his ass! That'll teach him good. :lol:

sperry 2005-04-07 12:08 PM

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Man as soon as Bayley is 16, I'm gonna street race him and kick his ass! That'll teach him good. :lol:

Ahahhahah!! Best answer evar!

Nick Koan 2005-04-07 12:10 PM

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Man as soon as Bayley is 16, I'm gonna street race him and kick his ass! That'll teach him good. :lol:

Don't forget to take his pink slip when you beat him.

Kevin M 2005-04-07 12:14 PM

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Man as soon as Bayley is 16, I'm gonna street race him and kick his ass! That'll teach him good. :lol:

Don't forget to take his pink slip when you beat him.

He better make sure he owns something slow by then! :lol:

IheartSTI 2007-11-14 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Danger (Post 42229)
So you guys remember a kid by the name of Sam, whose father bought him an 05 Crystal Gray STI, he hung out with the club for a while. Anyways Sam approached a friend of mine with an 11 second Nova talking crap like most teenagers.
He said, "My STI dynoed at 485 horsepower to the WHEELS"
When asked to run the 11 second Nova or show some form of proof he refused. I saw his car the other day, and it does not have 485 horses. Whats wrong with kids these days, they give us young racers bad names.

Sam, if you read this don't be stupid either tell the turth, or back up your claim.

Well i took the advice of Dean and started looking through the "search section" for some valuable informantion that this club has to offer all Subaru enthusiast. I am glad i took the suggested advice so i could come across post like this. I would like to start off by saying kids will be kids and this was some time ago. Well now i have the "privilege" of being adult.

IheartSTI 2007-11-14 11:40 PM

Bob is speaking about me. I thought i would tell everyone about myself to clear up confusion. I am Sam Marson and my father is Dave Marson. I was raised in an upper class family who is privileged by God to have the success our family has. My father has not made the best choices along like ALL other human beings. I don not think any of us will disagree. He did by me the car and it has been our ongoing project together. yes together. i am guilty of street racing in my past and i do believe it is stupid and irresponsible. Yes I am guilty of being a kid. Bob is a friend of mine so i do not want to "bash" him for this post. he is entitled to his opinion like this group should be entitled to the facts. when bob posted this I was in FACT living in beautiful sandpoint Idaho. FACT... my car still only has minor motor mods which do not produce anywhere near 400 wheel horse power. What was said was said and i am not mad about anyone "bashing" on me because it was produced from an untrue statement. I believe seccs is a great club with some great people; however, I do not think it is appropriate to "bash" on ANYONE you do not know. I was young with some karting experience yes... its true this does not mean i am a good driver although being a 16 year old male does not make me a bad driver. I am sorry this drama has to be even talked about especially years later but this is my name and i will stand up for it. I would love for anyone in this great club to get to know the real Sam Marson and if then you decide you do not like my values as a person you can "bash" me if you want. thanks

wrxkidid 2007-11-14 11:49 PM

I don't feel alone anymore...theres another teenager in the club sweet!

Libila 2007-11-14 11:53 PM

Haha! Hey Sam (this is Tim Walsh)

It's been a looong time dude...

WRX06TR 2007-11-15 12:17 AM

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I don't feel alone anymore...theres another teenager in the club sweet!

Our group is growing...oh until Feb.

IheartSTI 2007-11-15 12:24 AM

yea young guys get picked on...thats the way of the world.haha. i am just baffled... I wish my car had that much power.

AtomicLabMonkey 2007-11-15 05:33 AM

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yea young guys get picked on...thats the way of the world.haha.

Better get used to it if you stick around here, youngster. :)

MorganK 2007-11-15 05:51 AM

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MattR 2007-11-15 07:56 AM

Wow, Just Wow. That goes back a way.

Libila 2007-11-15 08:16 AM

Wow, flash back. Sam and Morgan in the same thread.

Morgan, I never held on to any of those hard feelings. We had our differences but we've grown up a lot since then. Next time I'm back in the country we should get the crew back together and have dinner. I think it would be fun to reminisce.

IheartSTI 2007-11-15 08:37 AM

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I'm just confused as to who had an eleven second nova...
Surely not the 32 y/o repo guy that lived with his parents :lol:

As far as bringing worthless threads back from the dead, I would like to clarify a few past details on my own behalf as well, in regards to the 'old Carson crew'.





I beat the hell out of the cars I drove in high school. No doubt about it. But it's not like I drove the piss out of them constantly, like every other douchebag of the time. Unfortunately, when I finally had a car that had less than 120,000 miles and wasn't purchased for less than $1,500, my bad habits manifested once again. Once I realized how badly I had treated the car, despite no structural or mechanical damage, I drove the car very conservatively the last 50k I owned it with the cobb de-tuned reflash it had always had . Even with all the thrashing, I am although, appreciative I had the chance to learn through experience and to use available resources. As well, i'm still thankful I had friends like you guys who understood the aspects of automotive mechanics as well (if not better) as I did. I would like to state (at least jaunt your memories) that I wasn't 'clueless' then, despite not yet taking advantage of the benefits of a wideband in conjunction with the use of nitrous@18psi, and i'm sure as hell not clueless now. Tim, I know we don't exactly see eye to eye, but I sincerely apologize for any and all harm I had caused you. Even though it's been years, i've always felt guilty. I was naive and foolish to be upset or angry about anything as well. Sam, was your description 'fine'; post or prior new longblock? :rolleyes: Bob, where's my twenty bucks, slacker. :lol:

Anyways, I was talking to Ben the other day about the time-machine/miscarriage comment. Was that you who said it Bob?

Morgans still alive? how are you doing?

knucklesplitter 2007-11-15 08:56 AM

I had a 300hp car within a few months of getting my drivers license at 16. Except it was RWD, had belted-bias tires, 4-wheel drum brakes, and no rear swaybar. :eek: Sorry to drift back on topic... ;)

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-15 09:05 AM

Oh you guys.

So Ben is still around?

MorganK 2007-11-15 11:38 AM

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