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Dean 2008-08-22 03:13 PM

Bristol!!! Tonight (Friday) & Saturday night!!!

Racing should be great!

Dean 2008-08-23 05:16 PM

JPM = "The fastest 40th place guy here!" -Kyle Busch :lol:

MattR 2008-08-23 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 122620)
JPM = "The fastest 40th place guy here!" -Kyle Busch :lol:

That made me laugh, but it is very true... Great racing so far. :cool:

Dean 2008-08-23 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR (Post 122621)
That made me laugh, but it is very true... Great racing so far. :cool:

JPM probably got more air time than any other driver outside the top 3-5... Way to make the sponsors happy. Ended up a respectable 19th.

Great race. Bristol remains my favorite oval.

Dean 2008-10-26 01:49 PM

More JPM.... Having a great race and then apparently he pissed some racing god off! :(

And can you stop Jimmy Johnson? I don't think so... What a great team effort. Chad made a great tire call at the end of the race...

MattR 2008-10-26 05:02 PM

JPM has the worst luck in all of racing. It's good to see his car is finally competitive in the last 5 races of the year. Marcos Ambrose was in the field today as well in a Michael Waltrip car, he ran well.

Dean 2009-03-01 02:50 PM

Ok, Jamie McMurray needs to go kick ass in Formula D!!!

He just drifted his Cup car for about 8-10 seconds around LVMS at about 180MPH!!! (Lap 67)

It was quite impressive, though he did get some help initiating it. :)

MattR 2009-03-01 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 129154)
Ok, Jamie McMurray needs to go kick ass in Formula D!!!

He just drifted his Cup car for about 8-10 seconds around LVMS at about 180MPH!!! (Lap 67)

It was quite impressive, though he did get some help initiating it. :)

That was insane, I was impressed.

Dean 2009-03-02 11:14 PM

Here it is on YouTube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MR2dqeoPI

Joeyy 2009-03-19 08:58 AM

Lets see how Scott does on a short track. He'll have to race his way in to this one, now that he's out of the top 35 in points.

Joeyy 2009-03-19 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 129238)

He saved it because he drives karts in the off season.:)

MattR 2009-03-19 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeyy (Post 130026)
Lets see how Scott does on a short track. He'll have to race his way in to this one, now that he's out of the top 35 in points.

No, I think they have one more race to go before they go to the 09 owners points.

Dean 2009-03-20 04:04 PM

One Word: Bristol!

Next best thing to a road course.

Should be a great weekend.

MattR 2009-03-21 09:14 AM

I have a mean headcold this weekend, I'm not leaving the house. In fact, I may die. But, besides the Bristol races, the 12 hours of Sebring is on, Speed is showing over 9 hours of the race, so that should make me feel better. Go Audi!

Also, Dean, tonight at 3pm, there is an old-timers race from Bristol! I've heard Rusty Wallace, Junior Johnson, David Pearson are getting in cars to run a short race tonight. Should be a fun event.

Dean 2009-07-26 01:55 PM

Damn, Damn, Damn...

JPM throws away an easy win and Mark Martin lets that damn punk kid Johnson get by him. ;)

Why in the hell would you run anywhere near the pit lane speed limit when you have a 5 second lead and a dominant car. :rolleyes: He only has himself to blame, and swearing on your wife and child that you didn't do it doesn't make it so. :(

I actually really like Jimmy, but am required by AARP to root for Mark. ;) (Who I actually really like as well.)

The chase is going to be very interesting this year I do believe.

Now I'm watching F1 where again, the single wheel nut scheme fails. :rolleyes: A couple more people fall out and the new kid might score a point. ;)

Dean 2009-08-15 06:18 AM

It is very lonely in this thread. :(

Come on, I know some of you are watching....

Watkins Glen had two good races. Montreal is coming up so you can watch them turn right and left.

Hope it rains in montreal again! Stock cars on wets seperate the men from the boys.

To throw out another topic or three...

Should there be a road course in the chase?

Do you like restrictor plate racing?

Should they take some of the boring 1.5 mile and longer cookie cutter ovals and throw in the inside road course sections that ALMS and such use on a couple? That might encourage some of the oval fans to like road racing more...

I hope a Toyota wins Michigan! :devil:


On a side note: The WG Sprint Cup race is a perfect example of why many "club" track events don't allow passing in the corners... No matter how good the two people are, mistakes are made and $41+ happens! What was going to be a nice clean pass turns into a red flag mess with car parts everywhere.

Dean 2009-08-16 02:08 PM

Toyota wins in Michigan on fuel mileage over the big three, what an metaphor for the auto industry in general.

tysonK 2009-08-16 02:41 PM

I'll watch again when it's back on abc or fox or whatever.

MattR 2009-08-16 02:50 PM

Red Bull! Finally...Nice win for Vickers.

sperry 2009-08-16 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 138721)
Toyota wins in Michigan on fuel mileage over the big three, what an metaphor for the auto industry in general.

Maybe a metaphor of the auto industry in 1973. Unless you're suggesting Toyota won because the other race teams spent too much money building race haulers instead of race cars while paying pensions to Richard Petty, Darryl Waltrip, and Dale Jarrett.

I guess my point is that winning a race on fuel mileage in NASCAR is more "winning a race because you got luck and the cautions worked out to allow you to apply your tiny fuel mileage advantage" rather than "finishing the race with 12 less pit stops because your diesel is so much more efficient" like winning a race on fuel mileage is at Le Mans, for example. I'm never all that impressed by "fuel mileage victories" in NASCAR.

/nascar humbug

Dean 2009-08-16 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 138724)
I guess my point is that winning a race on fuel mileage in NASCAR is more "winning a race because you got luck and the cautions worked out to allow you to apply your tiny fuel mileage advantage" rather than "finishing the race with 12 less pit stops because your diesel is so much more efficient" like winning a race on fuel mileage is at Le Mans, for example. I'm never all that impressed by "fuel mileage victories" in NASCAR.

I am a little surprised to read this considering how much F-1 relies on fuel and pit strategy which appears to be what you are bashing. Am I missing something, or do you dislike that in F-1 as well?

And in this case, many of the leaders pitted at the same time. They Toyota and its driver used less fuel than the competition over the same number of laps.

It was also a pretty good race form a competition and passing perspective. :P

sperry 2009-08-16 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 138725)
I am a little surprised to read this considering how much F-1 relies on fuel and pit strategy which appears to be what you are bashing. Am I missing something, or do you dislike that in F-1 as well?

And in this case, many of the leaders pitted at the same time. They Toyota and its driver used less fuel than the competition over the same number of laps.

It was also a pretty good race form a competition and passing perspective. :P

F1 doesn't really have any strategy with fuel mileage. If they want to get 5 extra mpg, the just turn a knob on the wheel and get it, what with modern fuel injected motors and all. Only once I've seen someone lose positions over lack of fuel, and that was because Massa's pit crew failed to put in the right amount of fuel at the last stop. Plus, the cars have such large tanks and the races are so short they can run a whole round on one fill up if they want to. So in F1, it's not really "fuel mileage" that makes a difference, it's just "fuel strategy", which is the balance between how often they stop vs. the penalty for carrying more weight. Sure, getting better mileage gets you more laps for the weight of the fuel, but it's such a small difference that plenty of other factors obscure the advantage.

It's pretty much the same deal in NASCAR as in F1 regarding the fuel mileage "advantage", but with their "small" fuel tank size NASCAR has a real opportunity to make fuel mileage actually matter, if only they were to allow higher tech motors. But as it is, a fuel mileage "advantage" in NASCAR usually only comes up when there's a caution 15 laps from the finish when 14 laps is a full fuel run. Then the team with the tiny bit better mileage eeks out just more lap while everyone else does a splash and go... which is often negated by another caution with 5 to go allows all the "bad" mileage cars to get their splash *and* new tires. i.e. winning a race "on mileage" is still more luck than anything else.

What I'd like to see is one team out there w/ a direct injected V8 getting twice the mileage as the push-rod dinosaurs... then we can talk about a fuel mileage advantage, since they'd need to pit half as often, assuming Goodyear brought tires that can last that long.

Dean 2009-08-16 10:26 PM

First, I am not trying to start an argument, just trying to understand what you are saying...

I don't think the level of technology changes the fact that there is strategy is involved or that one team can have an advantage over another in that area. In many respects, carburetor choices made before the race are a strategy in themselves, as are how many stops in a F-1 race, wing angle for speed vs. downforce, etc...

In this case, it was also the way Vickers drove vs. the other drivers. I would think that would be true in F1 as well. Changing from a 2 stop to 3 stop strategy due to race conditions or vice-versa must involve the driver and how he conserves or expends fuel and is not just a matter of turning a knob/switch. I swear I have heard conserve fuel and drive like hell, fuel is fine type comments on F-1 radios...

Martin who was saving fuel to an even higher extreme still ran out in his Chevy, so there was definitely a significant difference between the teams.

I think both series have quite complicated fuel strategies regardless of technology.

Fuel Strategy might play more of a role in NASCAR than F-1 and both are subject to "luck" factors, but NASCAR sees more "luck" factors due to the length of their races, the number of cars on track and the older technology.

Dean 2009-08-21 02:00 PM

Bristol Fri. & 5at. afternoon! 5PM & 4:30 respectively for Nationwide/Sprint.

Should be good if Truck race Wed. was any indication.

MattR 2009-08-21 03:07 PM

Weird, the post at the top of this page is for Bristol one year ago.

I missed the truck race, I wonder if it's on replay.

Dean 2009-08-21 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 138853)
Weird, the post at the top of this page is for Bristol one year ago.

I missed the truck race, I wonder if it's on replay.

Monday, 9:30AM on speed

Dean 2009-08-29 05:04 PM

This Rocks! They are going to qualify the Nationwide series cars on a road course in the rain at Montreal!!!

http://www.circuitgillesvilleneuve.ca/en/

On now!!!

They ran in the ran last year. Great race. Supposed to be clear tomorrow... :(

MattR 2009-08-29 10:33 PM

Ambrose is unreal!. And he lucked out by not practicing and going out to qualy early...he should have a great race Tomorrow.

Dean 2009-08-30 05:07 PM

Good race, great finish.

Bunch of stupid people doing stuff you wouldn't do in the dry in the wet made the last 20 laps annoying, but glad they put on the wets and ran in the "rain". The fans sure loved it.

MattR 2009-08-30 05:40 PM

I'm gutted, I can't believe the finish...anyway, Nascar needs to learn when NOT to throw a caution, 99% of those incidents were self-correcting.

Dean 2009-08-30 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 139120)
I'm gutted, I can't believe the finish...anyway, Nascar needs to learn when NOT to throw a caution, 99% of those incidents were self-correcting.

True, but going 4 wide into a 1 wide corner with 2 in the wet grass and becoming a bowling ball into the pack is not NASCAR's fault.

Should have pulled the driver's out for a 1 minute driver's meeting when they changed to wets and told them they spin, they get black flagged, they punt someone, they sit for a lap, they do anything really stupid, they get parked.

There was no excuse for some of that crap.

F1 wouldn't put up with it. :)

I really like that course for some reason. No SPA, but many challenges, high and low speed. Is that where F1 ran in Canada?

MattR 2009-08-30 06:26 PM

Yep, that's where F1 ran and Will Run again in 2010...Scott, Nick, David and I sat right in turn 2, which would have been great seats today.

Dean 2009-09-20 04:33 PM

OK, the chase has started, and I'm watching the first race on the DVR right now...

Who do you want to win???

I am torn between Mark Martin and JPM... I want them both to win for completely different reasons.

Dean 2009-11-08 09:07 AM

Very interesting Poll answer on Speed today. When asked about what they wanted to change about the chase between:

Add a restrictor plate race
Add a Short Track race
Add a road course
Leave it alone

59% of the "fans" said to add a road course! There is some hope for Nascar fans after all.

I was thinking that restrictor plate races are getting boring and dangerous, so they should start using the internal road courses at those speedways.

Dean 2010-02-11 09:26 AM

Welcome to the 2010 Dean talks to himself NASCAR thread with guest appearances by Matt. :)

Is this Mark Martin's year, will JPM check his ego and just drive and win like we know he can or is Jimmy unstoppable?

They are getting rid of the wing and going back to the spoiler mid-season? WTF? Next we will be going back to carborated pushrod V-8s. ;)

If the shootout and practices are any indicator, the duels and race should be "fun".

What did you think of Danica in the ARCA race? I was impressed how she came back after the off-road excursion. Even DW was.

sperry 2010-02-11 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 145405)
Welcome to the 2010 Dean talks to himself NASCAR thread with guest appearances by Matt. :)

Is this Mark Martin's year, will JPM check his ego and just drive and win like we know he can or is Jimmy unstoppable?

They are getting rid of the wing and going back to the spoiler mid-season? WTF? Next we will be going back to carborated pushrod V-8s. ;)

If the shootout and practices are any indicator, the duels and race should be "fun".

What did you think of Danica in the ARCA race? I was impressed how she came back after the off-road excursion. Even DW was.

Mark Martin's year was 1998. I can't believe he's still threatening a championship win 12 years and two retirements later.

Dean 2010-02-11 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 145411)
Mark Martin's year was 1998. I can't believe he's still threatening a championship win 12 years and two retirements later.

Have you seen the man recently? They did a bit on him last year and walked through his training regime and such. The guy is in amazing shape, the best of his life he says. Add to that his experience and his team, he has a great chance IMHO. He only has to improve a bit from last year.

A1337STI 2010-02-11 02:51 PM

Isn't there a big race this weekend? I should watch, since i'll be doing some Roundy round come March 13th as part of the desert storm super special!

sperry 2010-02-11 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI (Post 145426)
Isn't there a big race this weekend? I should watch, since i'll be doing some Roundy round come March 13th as part of the desert storm super special!

You mean the Daytona 500? It's not that big of a race.

A1337STI 2010-02-11 03:22 PM

Ya that's it, and...*damn must be a trick to admit i know something about nascar*

I'll fall for it... its their biggest deal , their super bowl

http://nascar.about.com/od/nascarcul...ggestraces.htm
1. Daytona 500
It has been called "The Great American Race" and "The Super Bowl of NASCAR." No matter what you call it there is no doubt that the Daytona 500 is the biggest, most-prestigous event on the NASCAR Sprint Cup calendar.


Not that i care that much... i just catching you being wrong :lol: (just how you introduced yourself to me many years ago .. just sticks with me)

MattR 2010-02-11 03:22 PM

My super bowl is this sunday...I'm pumped...Love me some Nascar.

sperry 2010-02-11 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1337STI (Post 145431)
Ya that's it, and...*damn must be a trick to admit i know something about nascar*

I'll fall for it... its their biggest deal , their super bowl

http://nascar.about.com/od/nascarcul...ggestraces.htm
1. Daytona 500
It has been called "The Great American Race" and "The Super Bowl of NASCAR." No matter what you call it there is no doubt that the Daytona 500 is the biggest, most-prestigous event on the NASCAR Sprint Cup calendar.


Not that i care that much... i just catching you being wrong :lol: (just how you introduced yourself to me many years ago .. just sticks with me)

Alex, Sarcasm.

Sarcasm, Alex.

Kevin M 2010-02-11 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 145435)
Alex, Sarcasm.

Sarcasm, Alex.

They've met. It wasn't memorable for either of them.

Just for the rest of us.

Dean 2010-02-13 08:58 AM

NASCAR days...

Danica will be starting a Nationwide car in an hour or so. (ESPN2) Truck Series at 3:30PM Pacific and the Daytona 500 tomorrow... Boogity Boogity Boogity!

Dean 2010-02-14 01:56 PM

Anybody catch the Toyota design your own paint scheme "Sponsafier" contest commercials? Some of them were pretty funny. The one with the kyle bush in the pink driving suit and little girl's car with cats and baby seal on it is hilarious. The 7th level warlock is pretty good too.

http://www.sponsafier.com/#/home

tysonK 2010-02-14 02:57 PM

Pothole!!!!!

MattR 2010-02-14 03:17 PM

This pos old track is pissing me off... I'm going to have to DVR the finish if this keeps up, we have dinner plans in a bit, and valentine's dinner isn't one I can cancel to watch tv :lol:

sperry 2010-02-15 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR (Post 145664)
This pos old track is pissing me off... I'm going to have to DVR the finish if this keeps up, we have dinner plans in a bit, and valentine's dinner isn't one I can cancel to watch tv :lol:

Welcome to my world... 5.5 hours of recorded race and I missed the end by an hour. :mad:

It wouldn't be so bad if Fox would friggen call the pre-race show its own program so I don't have to record 2 hours of Tim McGraw and 200 versions of the same interview before the race starts.

So, what happened after the caution for A.J.'s spin?

MattR 2010-02-15 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 145699)
So, what happened after the caution for A.J.'s spin?

:lol: You're kidding I hope...It was pretty much the best 500 finish I've ever seen...Hop on speed channel tonight, I'm sure one of their wrap up shows will be on.

Dean 2010-02-15 12:58 PM

Replay is Wed. at 9:00am on speed.


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