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AtomicLabMonkey 2006-03-20 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cody
What about a big bag of ice on the ic?

Sprayers work fine, probably better than resting a bag of ice on the IC. They work for hot radiators too. The water you spray on boils away, which pulls quite a bit of heat energy out of the exchanger.

cody 2006-03-20 11:18 AM

God, I love free mods. Water bottle FTW!

Kevin M 2006-03-20 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cody
I'm not worried about my time as much as I just want a happy car.

Your car will be fine. :) If your car didn't have such an amazing ecu and you were tuned for perfect peak power, then you might have something to worry about. But your car is equipped to handle poor conditions without destroying itself. Yay for Subaru.

cody 2006-03-20 01:01 PM

Word. Suby ECU's are amazing.

A1337STI 2006-03-20 02:30 PM

Wow so if you over spray your IC and water makes it onto the track someone can protest. so any amount of water if 1 drop makes it down there ? :| eeks. hopefully won't happen to me but i love spraying down my IC . (dunno why just makes me happy)
would an IC spray modulator bump you up a class , if you car comes stock with an ic sprayer?

Dean 2006-03-20 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI
Wow so if you over spray your IC and water makes it onto the track someone can protest. so any amount of water if 1 drop makes it down there ? :| eeks. hopefully won't happen to me but i love spraying down my IC . (dunno why just makes me happy)
would an IC spray modulator bump you up a class , if you car comes stock with an ic sprayer?

Theoretically, yes. And yes, but not necessarily one class, straight to prepared, or Street Modified. Not allowed in S, SP or ST. The basic rule is hat unless it is specifically allowed in the rules, you can't do it.

A1337STI 2006-03-20 03:46 PM

found this link off the Reno scca website, is this the correct set of rules for Auto X ?

http://scca.org/_filelibrary/File/2006_solo_rules.pdf :) thanks

Dean 2006-03-20 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI
found this link off the Reno scca website, is this the correct set of rules for Auto X ?

http://scca.org/_filelibrary/File/2006_solo_rules.pdf :) thanks

Yes

NevadaSTi 2006-03-20 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
If you really are staying totally stock you are better off in A-stock (TAS). An STi can do very well in A-stock, just look at last year's Hawthorne results.

I thought the rules stated STi's and Evo's are in BSP?

How can I run TAS?

Kevin M 2006-03-21 07:58 AM

STis and Evos are only in BSP to run under Street Prepared rules. In Stock they are classed as AS.

zpeed 2006-03-21 09:19 AM

I use to run a small tube from rear window washer to the I/C on my Talon. It did help cool it down on a hot day.

NevadaSTi 2006-03-23 09:54 AM

If I run AS, I would be running against all those damn vettes. Will the T give me an advantage so that I am competitive with them, or should I just run TBSP?

Kevin M 2006-03-23 10:41 AM

Yes, Vettes in AS- but also in BSP. C4 Vettes anyway. Also, any modded Evos or STis in BSP will smoke you (car vs. car anyway; you could still outdrive their mod adantage potentially). In AS you can be regionally competitive with nothing done at all.

Street tires help you stay competitive without having to buy Hoosiers or V710s. Doesn't affect the competitive balance between make/model. Your best chance, by far, is to run TAS. You'll still get clobbered by Pat and Mike Mulhall, but you'll have your best PAX results in that class.

Dean 2006-03-23 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaSTi
If I run AS, I would be running against all those damn vettes. Will the T give me an advantage so that I am competitive with them, or should I just run TBSP?

If you run TBSP you will be running against all those Vettes also... Larry Capen specifically, and he beats the ASP Vettes with his BSP automatic...

MikeK 2006-03-23 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
You'll still get clobbered by Pat and Mike Mulhall, but you'll have your best PAX results in that class.

I thought Pat was running in F125 this year. And Mike Mulhall isn't running at all, he is overseas for a few months.

Kevin M 2006-03-23 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
I thought Pat was running in F125 this year. And Mike Mulhall isn't running at all, he is overseas for a few months.

I thogut Pat was RNPing in the kart, and I didn't know about Mike.

dknv 2006-03-23 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
I thought Pat was running in F125 this year. And Mike Mulhall isn't running at all, he is overseas for a few months.

Did Mike already leave? What is he doing with the Boxster?

MikeK 2006-03-23 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv
Did Mike already leave? What is he doing with the Boxster?

Last I heard he was trying to sell it. I have no idea if he got rid of it though.

Pat R. 2006-03-24 05:56 AM

I will be running the S2k in AS until I get a bit more adept w/ the kart. Plus I have 3 1/2 sets of race tires to use up.

cody 2006-03-24 09:34 PM

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Can I autoX with this damage? I'm wating for the autobody shop to get parts, so it won't be fixed before the Apr. 1st autox class.

The damage is only cosmetic, but I have a feeling this will keep me from running.

Kevin M 2006-03-24 10:07 PM

In the GCR, section 11.2 says that cars must have "appearance suitable for competition" and "appearance neat and clean. Specifically, "cars that...show bodywork damage...shall not be approved for competition." HOWEVER, I think I can let it slide since there is nothing under the solo rules that specifically mentions damage to the exterior, or that references the GCR inspection requirements. Plus, you're running novice, so you aren't protestable anyway. If we didn't want you and/or your car specifically to run, someone could probably use it as an excuse to bar you from entering, but I highly doubt anybody is going to take issue with it given that one of our region's primary goals is promoting our events to new members and increasing participation. However, it will probably have to be repaired before you can run at Club Trials. The Time Trial rules are basically the same as the GCR as far as tech inspection goes.

Kevin M 2006-03-24 10:46 PM

So, Dean... wanna run ESP?

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Originally Posted by Solo Rules, section 15 Street Prepared category (intro, p.79)
Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current national Street Touring (ST) class rules are permitted to compete in their respective Street Prepared classes, with the additional allowance that they may use any tire which meets the requirements of 15.3 and fits on the ST-legal wheels and within the ST-legal bodywork.


cody 2006-03-25 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
In the GCR, section 11.2 says that cars must have "appearance suitable for competition" and "appearance neat and clean. Specifically, "cars that...show bodywork damage...shall not be approved for competition." HOWEVER, I think I can let it slide since there is nothing under the solo rules that specifically mentions damage to the exterior, or that references the GCR inspection requirements. Plus, you're running novice, so you aren't protestable anyway. If we didn't want you and/or your car specifically to run, someone could probably use it as an excuse to bar you from entering, but I highly doubt anybody is going to take issue with it given that one of our region's primary goals is promoting our events to new members and increasing participation. However, it will probably have to be repaired before you can run at Club Trials. The Time Trial rules are basically the same as the GCR as far as tech inspection goes.

That's great news. Thanks Kevin. :cool:

Dean 2006-03-26 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
So, Dean... wanna run ESP?

Dang, I don't think I've read the intro in years... Very interesting... Technically, I could run TESP as well which is just plain humorous.

M3n2c3 2006-03-26 09:46 AM

Noob question that I couldn't find an answer to in the rulebook. . .

What does the "T" tacked on at the beginning of the class mean (TESP, TSM, etc.)?


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