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MikeK 2004-11-18 02:53 PM

A traffic light that punishes you for speeding
 
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Does anyone know if this is still active or if it even worked?

JC 2004-11-18 03:02 PM

that's fucking stupid

ScottyS 2004-11-18 03:04 PM

Re: A traffic light that punishes you for speeding
 
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Originally Posted by MikeK
Clicky

Does anyone know if this is still active or if it even worked?


Wow. That sounds like "how to make the surface street signal system even more inefficient". They say the cross-traffic is still held by a red anyways? Jeez.

sperry 2004-11-18 03:05 PM

That's a cool idea. A bit brute-ish, but I know that road, and it'll really help out the people that live there with all the idiots that use it to cut from freeway to freeway.

What I'd really like to see are even more intelligent lights that will adapt to the cars on the road to get them to their desination faster, instead of punishing them. Sure someone may be speeding, but he won't feel that he has to if all the lights are green for him along his route.

MikeSTI 2004-11-18 03:18 PM

Sunrise ave. in Sactown seems to be speed timed.....meaning, if you start at gold river near the american river bridge and keep a speed of 45 mph you can make it all the way to greenback on greens. Then from there you have to speed up a little(to make up for the red light) and you can get to cirby lane np =)

ScottyS 2004-11-18 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
What I'd really like to see are even more intelligent lights that will adapt to the cars on the road to get them to their desination faster, instead of punishing them. Sure someone may be speeding, but he won't feel that he has to if all the lights are green for him along his route.

I've wondered about this for a while. With all the communication links to every intersection these days, coupled with modern computing speed and low cost, how hard would it really be to network the lights and estimate incoming traffic flow to any given intersection? The priority weighting could vary slightly depending on time of day --- heck, the weighting could be automatically updated once a month or something based on observed traffic volume in each lane through the intersection during the same time intervals on each day. Initially what we're talking about here is the quasi-intelligent ability of a light to alter its timing by a few seconds in either direction based upon speed & volume observations from neighboring intersections. The amount of flexibility would either be pre-weighted based on time of day/cross-traffic volume or be weighted in real-time based on current cross-traffic volume.

If the system breaks, the lights could always drop back to the stupid default settings they have now.

Call me crazy, but I spent way too much time during my delivery days of observing (and cursing) traffic-light patterns rather than driving to my next destination.

sperry 2004-11-18 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
Sunrise ave. in Sactown seems to be speed timed.....meaning, if you start at gold river near the american river bridge and keep a speed of 45 mph you can make it all the way to greenback on greens. Then from there you have to speed up a little(to make up for the red light) and you can get to cirby lane np =)

Bingo. Timed lights really help traffic. McCarran could *really* use them. And if you were to add the camera deal that the article talks about to help the timing instead of stopping speeders, even better.

AtomicLabMonkey 2004-11-18 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
That's a cool idea. A bit brute-ish, but I know that road, and it'll really help out the people that live there with all the idiots that use it to cut from freeway to freeway.

Umm, all it's going to do is snarl up traffic even worse than that cluster-fuck of a town already has now, and make local area tailpipe emissions & gas consumption go up. WTF are these idiots thinking?

Let's make our traffic, air quality, and gas prices all worse in one fell swoop! It'll be great! :roll:

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Originally Posted by sperry
What I'd really like to see are even more intelligent lights that will adapt to the cars on the road to get them to their desination faster, instead of punishing them. Sure someone may be speeding, but he won't feel that he has to if all the lights are green for him along his route.

Now that, on the other hand, I could go for.

[EDIT]: Oh, and people who think like this: "It's kind of big-brotherish, but sometimes it's the price we pay for safety," - should be shipped off to mother Russia where they belong.

sperry 2004-11-18 03:32 PM

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[EDIT]: Oh, and people who think like this: "It's kind of big-brotherish, but sometimes it's the price we pay for safety," - should be shipped off to mother Russia where they belong.

...and don't forget to give them their ration of government issue white bread. :P

Actually, if the traffic light is publicized enough, it might keep people from cutting between 580 and 680. If they know they won't be able to speed, they might stick to the freeway. 'Cause you know there will always be some 'tard out there hauling ass anyway triggering the light for all the people that are going the limit. :roll:

AtomicLabMonkey 2004-11-18 03:36 PM

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...and don't forget to give them their ration of government issue white bread. :P

Shut up, you communist.





P.S. You've had this coming for a long time!!! :lol:

MattR 2004-11-18 03:39 PM

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...and don't forget to give them their ration of government issue white bread. :P

Shut up, you communist.





P.S. You've had this coming for a long time!!! :lol:

Austin is my new personal hero :lol:

MikeK 2004-11-18 03:41 PM

We shouldn't have safety precautions, they only protect people who shouldn't be breeding. Darwin would not approve! It's like the guy who is looking for a new employee who throws out half the resumes he gets without even reading them, because he doesn't want to hire unlucky people.

sti deede 2004-11-18 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
We shouldn't have safety precautions, they only protect people who shouldn't be breeding. Darwin would not approve! It's like the guy who is looking for a new employee who throws out half the resumes he gets without even reading them, because he doesn't want to hire unlucky people.

:lol: :lol: I'm busting a gut with that analogy. Great job!

sperry 2004-11-18 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
We shouldn't have safety precautions, they only protect people who shouldn't be breeding. Darwin would not approve! It's like the guy who is looking for a new employee who throws out half the resumes he gets without even reading them, because he doesn't want to hire unlucky people.

Resumes? At IGT, you don't get a job unless you know someone that works there.

Nick got his because I recommended him. I got mine because Matt recommended me. Matt got his because a family friend got him an interview.

dknv 2004-11-18 04:08 PM

Where there's a real problem area, slow 'em down with speed humps. Not that I'm a fan of them myself, but seems like that would help, rather than punishing everybody traveling there.

Anyway, I thought "adaptive traffic systems" - smart lights, radars, traffic flow data, are being piloted in various places already.

MattR 2004-11-18 04:10 PM

Speed Humps = jumps... as long as you have rally tuned suspension 8) I've caught huge air at the ones near Dean's house, but you have to be going like 45.

sperry 2004-11-18 04:15 PM

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Speed Humps = jumps... as long as you have rally tuned suspension 8) I've caught huge air at the ones near Dean's house, but you have to be going like 45.

I've hit the ones near Windy Hill at "significantly faster than 45". :lol: It's one hell of a way to check for squeeks and rattles in the suspension!

ScottyS 2004-11-18 04:16 PM

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Speed Humps = jumps... as long as you have rally tuned suspension 8) I've caught huge air at the ones near Dean's house, but you have to be going like 45.


So you do jump that thing on purpose!

MattR 2004-11-18 04:19 PM

Hell Yeah....It jumps better than any vehicle I've had...My jeep sucked when it went airborne...it would land and go all squirly...the subaru just sits down and keeps on flying...

JC 2004-11-18 04:29 PM

What they need is one of those little speed slalom (I dunno what they are really called) things. Those are hella fun!

dknv 2004-11-18 04:36 PM

Are you talking about those 'traffic calming's?
I shooda known this forum would see the upside of these supposed traffic controls. :lol:

JC 2004-11-18 05:21 PM

http://www.trafficcalming.org/

"chicanes" and "other speed controls" > "Angle Point"

ScottyS 2004-11-18 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv
Are you talking about those 'traffic calming's?
I shooda known this forum would see the upside of these supposed traffic controls. :lol:


I like the ones that "redirect" you like the one under the Keystone Ave bridge by the river....

tysonK 2004-11-18 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

Resumes? At IGT, you don't get a job unless you know someone that works there.

Nick got his because I recommended him. I got mine because Matt recommended me. Matt got his because a family friend got him an interview.

welcome to my personal hell.

qksubi 2004-11-19 10:48 AM

Thats sounds safe :? What a good idea not :twisted:

sperry 2004-11-19 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

Resumes? At IGT, you don't get a job unless you know someone that works there.

Nick got his because I recommended him. I got mine because Matt recommended me. Matt got his because a family friend got him an interview.

welcome to my personal hell.

You got all kinds of friends through this club alone. Let us know what you're looking for and we can put out the word. My dad (who's bordering on being an expert when it comes to job searching... :lol:) tells me that "Networking" is the #1 way to get a job. You just have to make sure to mention to everyone that you're looking for something, and eventually someone will be like "oh really? My work is hiring for that kinda thing!" No joke, that's really the best way to find something that fits you... plus you'll end up with a contact at the place and at least a personal recommendation right off the bat.

qksubi 2004-11-19 11:26 AM

True that Scott :!: Thats the only way you get a J O B at the Railroad you have to be related or know someone that works there no one walks in off the street and gets a job there :!:


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