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MattR 2005-03-16 09:22 AM

17x 8 Wheel Options.
 
What are some 17x8 Wheel options with STi Fitment. I know about all the Rotas, but what ones am I missing? Help. I'd like to spend no more than $250 a wheel.

sperry 2005-03-16 09:26 AM

Dean and I have the Enkei RPF1's. Light (<16lbs), roll-forged lip (like SSRs), 17"x8", clear Brembos. And they cost about $900 for a set of 4. Gold, silver and BLING! colors. (And if you want some silver ones, let me know because I'd rather have some gold ones... I'll work a deal w/ you!)

www.enkei.com

http://www.enkei.com/JPEG%20IMAGES/i.../Mercedes4.jpg

http://www.enkei.com/PHOTOS%20JPEG/H.../rpf1specs.jpg

Edit: Anyone else notice that the Z above is labled "Merceded4.jpg"? :lol:

BOO 2005-03-16 09:27 AM

Werks, Prodrive, Rotas, Volk,5-Zigen... Are just a few that I know of .. Of course you would know of a few I have listed due to personal experiences... 8)

Dean 2005-03-16 09:33 AM

MB MotorSports (A-Techs) My "winter wheels"

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-03-16 09:33 AM

I'm tellin you man, 17x9's + 275s + some fender flaring = SuperFly grip. :wink:

sperry 2005-03-16 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
I'm tellin you man, 17x9's + 275s + some fender flaring = SuperFly grip. :wink:

Here's the necessary fender flaring tool to get 275's to fit on a Subaru:

http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65j/sawzall.jpg

BOO 2005-03-16 09:39 AM

RPF-1's are just a copy(Or vice versa) of the Rota's .. i would think Matt would want somethign DIFFERENT.. But who knows...

MikeSTI 2005-03-16 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
MB MotorSports (A-Techs) My "winter wheels"

I do think this is a good choice...

why not 17x8.5"?

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-03-16 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Here's the necessary fender flaring tool to get 275's to fit on a Subaru:

A little nip here, a little tuck there...

MattR 2005-03-16 09:41 AM

Dean,good call, those are nice and cheap too.

and 17x8.5 are okay too, I just haven't found any that fit the $ req. I've just started looking.

Scott, I may be intersted in a Deal.

Nick Koan 2005-03-16 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
RPF-1's are just a copy(Or vice versa) of the Rota's .. i would think Matt would want somethign DIFFERENT.. But who knows...

Rota is the copier. Thats all they do. They make good rims, but the designs are all copies of other companies rims.

sperry 2005-03-16 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
RPF-1's are just a copy(Or vice versa) of the Rota's .. i would think Matt would want somethign DIFFERENT.. But who knows...

I don't think Rota makes a Replica of the RPF1s. The closest is the SubZero which is a replica of the Racing Hart CP-035's IIRC.

Also, I think Matt's looking for track wheels, so he's probably not too concerned with their looks.

sperry 2005-03-16 09:45 AM

Oh and both the Enkei RPF1s and the Rota SubZeros were the rims that Gary Sheehan used to run on his USTCC race car, so I'd call 'em "Race Proven on a Subaru". 8)

Nick Koan 2005-03-16 09:46 AM

And, if I remember correctly, he broke 2 RP-F1's and never broke a Rota. Granted, I believe he raced on the RP-F1 90% of the time.

BOO 2005-03-16 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by BOO
RPF-1's are just a copy(Or vice versa) of the Rota's .. i would think Matt would want somethign DIFFERENT.. But who knows...

I don't think Rota makes a Replica of the RPF1s. The closest is the SubZero which is a replica of the Racing Hart CP-035's IIRC.

Also, I think Matt's looking for track wheels, so he's probably not too concerned with their looks.

That's what I was thinking ... I guess If it was me i wouoldnt buy something that is a copy of something else.... that i might already have or that I could get real easily from SUBYDUDE.. (Ok am I advertising for him or what???..lol.. )

BOO 2005-03-16 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
And, if I remember correctly, he broke 2 RPF-1's and never broke a Rota.

Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm.."

sperry 2005-03-16 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by BOO
RPF-1's are just a copy(Or vice versa) of the Rota's .. i would think Matt would want somethign DIFFERENT.. But who knows...

I don't think Rota makes a Replica of the RPF1s. The closest is the SubZero which is a replica of the Racing Hart CP-035's IIRC.

Also, I think Matt's looking for track wheels, so he's probably not too concerned with their looks.

That's what I was thinking ... I guess If it was me i wouoldnt buy something that is a copy of something else.... that i might already have or that I could get real easily from SUBYDUDE.. (Ok am I advertising for him or what???..lol.. )

You lost me... all Rotas are copies of other wheels. Granted they're still very good wheels, especially at their prices, but if you're not interested in a replica wheel, then SubyDude has nothing for sale!

BOO 2005-03-16 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by BOO
RPF-1's are just a copy(Or vice versa) of the Rota's .. i would think Matt would want somethign DIFFERENT.. But who knows...

I don't think Rota makes a Replica of the RPF1s. The closest is the SubZero which is a replica of the Racing Hart CP-035's IIRC.

Also, I think Matt's looking for track wheels, so he's probably not too concerned with their looks.

That's what I was thinking ... I guess If it was me i wouoldnt buy something that is a copy of something else.... that i might already have or that I could get real easily from SUBYDUDE.. (Ok am I advertising for him or what???..lol.. )

You lost me... all Rotas are copies of other wheels. Granted they're still very good wheels, especially at their prices, but if you're not interested in a replica wheel, then SubyDude has nothing for sale!

Ok this is what I mean: Why buy the RPFI's when he can get the Rota's from subydude or where ever ...

**EDIT**
Especially what Nkoan said about the RPF1's .. Granted Matt may not use them to the full extent of braking them .. but who knows.. I think at this point it would be more of a SAFETY issue for wheels than anything ...
Make sense??
Yeah I read that again and thought .. wait a minute .. lol

Nick Koan 2005-03-16 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
Ok this is what I mean: Why buy the RPFI's when he can get the Rota's from subydude or where ever ...
Make sense??
Yeah I read that again and thought .. wait a minute .. lol

Right. But you also said you wouldn't buy replicas. The Rota's are the replicas. Rota makes copies. Rota copies other companies designs. Rota doesn't make original designs, they copy other designs already out on the market.

The RPF-1's (or actually the RacingHart wheels) are the real deal original wheel.

sperry 2005-03-16 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
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Originally Posted by BOO
Ok this is what I mean: Why buy the RPFI's when he can get the Rota's from subydude or where ever ...
Make sense??
Yeah I read that again and thought .. wait a minute .. lol

Right. But you also said you wouldn't buy replicas. The Rota's are the replicas. The RPF1's are the real deal original wheel.

Not to mention that Rota doesn't even make a replica of the RPF1... and they probably won't since the Enkei's are fairly affordable... Rota tends to make replicas of more expensive wheels so they don't actually compete w/ the original wheel.

Dean 2005-03-16 10:02 AM

I talked with Gary before I bought my new wheels, and actually while I was thinking of buying his car...

They seldom ran the SubZeros because they were narrower, and barely cleared the brakes. I believe he said they had the rain tires, and a set of backup scuffs on them. The RP-F1s were the primary wheel, and they held up real well except when he banged them into stuff. :) He reccomended them.

The MBs are about 18lbs, and are $112 ea. from Discount Tire. You could get tehm pre mounted and balanced with a set of RT-615s. So far, I am getting good feedback on autocross performance for them from the Evolution list.

BOO 2005-03-16 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
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Originally Posted by BOO
Ok this is what I mean: Why buy the RPFI's when he can get the Rota's from subydude or where ever ...
Make sense??
Yeah I read that again and thought .. wait a minute .. lol

Right. But you also said you wouldn't buy replicas. The Rota's are the replicas. Rota makes copies. Rota copies other companies designs. Rota doesn't make original designs, they copy other designs already out on the market.

The RPF-1's (or actually the RacingHart wheels) are the real deal original wheel.

Maybe you are missing my point. what I mean by replicas is : Straight forward why buy RPF1's when Rotas are the same looking wheel...

sperry 2005-03-16 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
I talked with Gary before I bought my new wheels, and actually while I was thinking of buying his car...

They seldom ran the SubZeros because they were narrower, and barely cleared the brakes. I believe he said they had the rain tires, and a set of backup scuffs on them. The RP-F1s were the primary wheel, and they held up real well except when he banged them into stuff. :) He reccomended them.

The MBs are about 18lbs, and are $112 ea. from Discount Tire. You could get tehm pre mounted and balanced with a set of RT-615s. So far, I am getting good feedback on autocross performance for them from the Evolution list.

Good feedback on the tires, or the wheels?

Oh, and when Gary went off big at RFR, he was on Rotas... and they got hammered. I don't remember if they were cracked at all, but I know they were bent to hell.

[img:b360030d04=600]http://www.seccs.org/gallery/Race%20Events/2003-08-09%20NASA%20USTCC%20Race%20at%20Reno-Fernley%20Raceway/2003-08-10%20Day%202/USTCC%20WRX%20ready%20to%20be%20loaded.jpg[/img:b360030d04]

BOO 2005-03-16 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
I talked with Gary before I bought my new wheels, and actually while I was thinking of buying his car...

They seldom ran the SubZeros because they were narrower, and barely cleared the brakes. I believe he said they had the rain tires, and a set of backup scuffs on them. The RP-F1s were the primary wheel, and they held up real well except when he banged them into stuff. :) He reccomended them.

The MBs are about 18lbs, and are $112 ea. from Discount Tire. You could get tehm pre mounted and balanced with a set of RT-615s. So far, I am getting good feedback on autocross performance for them from the Evolution list.

Well there ya go... sounds like they are a good wheel.. Again except when Scuffing them .. but then again .. so is every other wheel out there ...

and the MB's at 118 a pop .. sounds like something that is within Matt's original spending quote :)

BOO 2005-03-16 10:09 AM

Scott.. you have had Rota's for a while now .. What do you think about them . On the track?

MattR 2005-03-16 10:11 AM

Yeah, I think that's a good option, I am looking at this right now. 112 a wheel is cheap.

sperry 2005-03-16 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
Scott.. you have had Rota's for a while now .. What do you think about them . On the track?

For the money, Rota's are awesome. In fact, if they cleared my new brakes, I'd still be running the white Attacks I had.

The only drawback is that they're heavier than other brands. The Attacks are their lightest wheel, and they're only 17"x7.5" at about 17.5 lbs. The RPF1's I've got now are both wider and lighter... and they clear my brakes. But they cost about $300 more for a set.

I'd suggest Rotas for winter wheels, hands down... and maybe a set of the Torques (Work Emotion replicas) for racing, but I think they're a little heavy and you can get lighter wheels for only a bit more money.

BOO 2005-03-16 10:19 AM

Well thanks, sounds like what I need to be looking for is the Weight factor.. I didn't know you got upgraded brakes/calipers?

MikeSTI 2005-03-16 10:21 AM

thats why I may sell my Torques and buy a some SSR Competition 17x8.5" 8)

MattR 2005-03-16 10:22 AM

Dean, where did you get those Enkei's before?

sperry 2005-03-16 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BOO
Well thanks, sounds like what I need to be looking for is the Weight factor.. I didn't know you got upgraded brakes/calipers?

Yeah, I got some STi size StopTechs... that's why I had to sell 3 sets of rims. :lol:

You can kinda see 'em here:
[img:31f076d0c1=700]http://www.seccs.org/gallery/Car%20Pictures/nKoan/Legacy%20GT%20and%20WRX%20Sunset/DSCF0161.JPG[/img:31f076d0c1]

MattR 2005-03-16 10:31 AM

Discount Tire is out of the RT 215 already, I guess they're waiting on a new shipment. I really don't need tire to start the season. I have a little life left in my Azenis, (Not Much) and a set of 80% RE070 ready to go on. That should be enough to get me started.

Dean 2005-03-16 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Dean, where did you get those Enkei's before?

http://www.buywheelstoday.com

BOO 2005-03-16 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by BOO
Well thanks, sounds like what I need to be looking for is the Weight factor.. I didn't know you got upgraded brakes/calipers?

Yeah, I got some STi size StopTechs... that's why I had to sell 3 sets of rims. :lol:

You can kinda see 'em here:
[img:c00e0609c6=700]http://www.seccs.org/gallery/Car%20Pictures/nKoan/Legacy%20GT%20and%20WRX%20Sunset/DSCF0161.JPG[/img:c00e0609c6]


WOW!!! Nice :)

sperry 2005-03-16 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
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Dean, where did you get those Enkei's before?

http://www.buywheelstoday.com

Their site is listing the RRF1's at $300 each... what happened to the $900/set price?

MikeSTI 2005-03-16 01:29 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Model: Black Racing PRO-N-1
Size: 15x7.0, 17x7.5, 17x8.0, 17x9.0
Color: Bronze, Black
Bolt Pattern: 4 x 100, 4 x 114, 5x100, 5x114
Price: $199 to $246 Per Wheel, Depend On Size.

MattR 2005-03-16 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
Model: Black Racing PRO-N-1
Size: 15x7.0, 17x7.5, 17x8.0, 17x9.0
Color: Bronze, Black
Bolt Pattern: 4 x 100, 4 x 114, 5x100, 5x114
Price: $199 to $246 Per Wheel, Depend On Size.

I've had my eye on those too, I haven't got a definate answer back on STi Fitment.

MikeSTI 2005-03-16 02:11 PM

I would think the 17x8 would fit :?

Dean 2005-03-16 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by Dean
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Dean, where did you get those Enkei's before?

http://www.buywheelstoday.com

Their site is listing the RRF1's at $300 each... what happened to the $900/set price?

Don't know, Call and ask... They were by far the best deal at teh time.

SlickNick112 2005-03-17 10:58 PM

try these on your STi, matt.

http://www.tirerack.com/servlet/Call...filterSpecial=

MattR 2005-03-18 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickNick112

No Worky...

I bought some wheels yesterday, I'll get them at the end of the month.
Gram Lights 17x8.5

Nick Koan 2005-03-18 07:56 AM

Nice.

What color? I'm going to guess black or something similar?

MattR 2005-03-18 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Nice.

What color? I'm going to guess black or something similar?

Yeah, Gunmetal...They look a lot like Deans Snow Tire wheels, they'll be great race wheels.

Nick Koan 2005-03-18 08:50 AM

Awesome. Congrats.


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