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tysonK 2005-08-08 09:14 PM

local silver STi gains fame
 
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=822112

ha!

people like the hood scoop delete.

M3n2c3 2005-08-09 01:46 AM

Looks good. I like the wing, as well.

JonnydaJibba 2005-08-09 03:03 PM

Yeah looks sweet.

Evo Mike 2005-08-10 01:18 PM

i'd better watch out for that guy :*(

U53D 2005-08-10 01:27 PM

i have met this guy in person. I delivered a pizza to his place the other day... pretty cool guy. Notice his headlights are all clear... no one else has i dont think. maybe its just me

Nick Koan 2005-08-10 01:29 PM

yeah, he's started coming out to meets occasionally, ever since he drove by randomly a month or so ago. Matt's a cool guy.

Kostamojen 2005-08-10 01:38 PM

That was matts car? I didnt even recognize it...

Man, ive been waiting for someone to make a scoop delete like that forever.

Nick Koan 2005-08-10 01:40 PM

:lol:

Different Matt. This is an older guy, with kids.

Kostamojen 2005-08-10 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
:lol:

Different Matt. This is an older guy, with kids.

Oh.... LOL!!!

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-08-10 03:27 PM

That "vent" is so close to the base of the windshield that it may not be doing anything at speed. High pressure builds up in that area.

Nick Koan 2005-08-10 04:01 PM

As I understand it, air will still get sucked down into the vent, no? Certainly not as helpful as expelling air would be.

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-08-10 04:42 PM

The normal idea is to expel air out of a hood vent, to reduce front-end lift at high speeds.

M3n2c3 2005-08-10 09:19 PM

he has a front-mount IC, right?

Nick Koan 2005-08-10 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M3n2c3
he has a front-mount IC, right?

right, but Austins point is that hood vents are usually used to expel air, and this setup probably doesn't.

M3n2c3 2005-08-10 09:50 PM

Gotcha. So its effectiveness will depend on whether the pressure of the air passing through the engine bay from the front is more powerful than the air passing over the vent?

Nick Koan 2005-08-10 09:55 PM

I think so.

I personally dont' think it'll hurt being there, but it may not do a whole lot. It certainly looks different rather then having an unnecessary scoop (due to the FMIC).

M3n2c3 2005-08-11 04:11 PM

he could put a fan in it. . .

sorry, my PC-mod geekery is beginning to bubble up :D

http://www.jdpaul.com/randompix/nvmax/img_3990.jpg

Total of 11 fans in there - an air-cooled beast!

Anyway, if it's not helping his airlfow but not hurting, no reason to not do it just for the looks! :banana:

Nick Koan 2005-08-11 04:24 PM

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only 11?

this case has 70.

http://www.peteredge.orcon.net.nz/casepics.htm

M3n2c3 2005-08-11 04:28 PM

Meh. I thought about it, but A) I don't make enough money to cover the electricity bill, and B) I don't make enough money to buy all the asprin I'd need to deal with the noise-induced headaches.

;)

That is a pretty insane case. There's a problem, though. Ideal PC cooling has cool air drawn in from the front and left (non-MB) side, with hot air being expelled back and top. The only time right-side cooling really comes into play is if you want to draw some air off of the backside of the mobo, and it's not usually very effective.

This case, however, has conflicting intake - front and back. Plus, he has air coming from the top, when (since hot air rises) you want to expel from the top. He also cites exhaust on the bottom, but. . . um. . . yeah, it's kinda sitting on a desk. Not much airflow there.

So there's lots of conflicting intake, with not enough effective exhaust (the right side's effectiveness is decreased due to the mobo being in the way). This will most likely just create a pocket of warm air over the mobo.

I set mine up with the front intake passing over the HDDs (for cooling) and the side intakes blowing directly over the cpu and video core. The top exhaust vents hot air that would have otherwise collected in the front corner by the DVD-ROM/CD-RWs. The rear exhaust and PSU fans serve to pull the hot air off of the cpu. Normally, hot air would also pocket in the lower back corner (under the sound card), but the case also has vents to allow that air to vent naturally. Higher CFM in than out aids this.

All that and a nice big copper hs/fan for the cpu makes for some decent overclocking.

Heh. There I go again. Ok, enough thread hi-jacking from me. :oops:

tysonK 2005-08-11 08:59 PM

what,

computer fans?

M3n2c3 2005-08-11 09:51 PM

what do you mean?

tysonK 2005-08-11 09:58 PM

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this has been sitting in my room for awhile.

too lazy to put it in.

sperry 2005-08-11 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonK
this has been sitting in my room for awhile.

too lazy to put it in.

That looks familiar, I got one of those heat towers in my Sonata. :D

M3n2c3 2005-08-11 10:29 PM

:lol:

Kevin M 2005-08-12 02:25 AM

You bought a hyundai? :huh: ;)

knucklesplitter 2005-08-16 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nKoan
This is an older guy, with kids.

Hey, I'm not *that* old!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
That "vent" is so close to the base of the windshield that it may not be doing anything at speed. High pressure builds up in that area.

Preliminary tests using small pieces of string tied to the mesh in the vent indicate that air flows *into* the "vent" at speeds greater than about 30-40mph, but I want to do some more fiddling before I'm sure. The black mesh is too hot to touch after hard driving so some heat is escaping out of there, or it could just be from radiation from the engine. And sitting at idle you can just see the heat pouring out of it creating a mirage effect.

The reverse scoops on the market are raised at the front which tends to create a vacuum behind it. I wanted something flat. I may fab one up that has more of a lip at the front to see how that looks and works.

No matter what, I still like it better than a non-functional scoop, especially that microwave oven-sized STI scoop.

Nick Koan 2005-08-16 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by knucklesplitter
Hey, I'm not *that* old!

Hey, I didn't mean it like that :p

knucklesplitter 2005-08-16 09:58 AM

Did you call me fat?

Nick Koan 2005-08-16 09:59 AM

Is your hearing going or something?

knucklesplitter 2005-08-16 10:01 AM

There's nothing wrong with my steering. A quicker ratio would be nice, but...

Nick Koan 2005-08-16 10:02 AM

:lol:

in all seriousness, do you have steering rack bushings? They really help the feel and reduce slop. You may like them, even if they don't really affect your ratio.

knucklesplitter 2005-08-16 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
in all seriousness, do you have steering rack bushings? They really help the feel and reduce slop. You may like them, even if they don't really affect your ratio.

They work that well, huh? Recommend any brands or types?

Nick Koan 2005-08-16 10:05 AM

I forget what MattR and qksubi got, but they really liked them. Whiteline I think?

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-08-16 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter
Preliminary tests using small pieces of string tied to the mesh in the vent indicate that air flows *into* the "vent" at speeds greater than about 30-40mph, but I want to do some more fiddling before I'm sure.

That's what I would have guessed. If you're just trying to reduce heat in the engine bay during regular driving it'll work great; if you track the car and are looking to reduce aero lift, then it's hurting you.

knucklesplitter 2005-08-16 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
...if you track the car and are looking to reduce aero lift, then it's hurting you.

I'm not sure how it would be hurting anything, cooling or lift, compared to a large scoop forcing air and pressure into the engine compartment, whether it be through a hole (with FMIC) or even through the top-mount intercooler (which doesn't reduce the scooped air's flow or pressure that much).

I could put a flapper door in that is normally open to let heat out, but then closes when the vent is pressurized from the outside. Prolly not worth the trouble. If I'm willing to remove my STI wing then I'm obviously willing to live with miniscule (if any) lift due to the hole in the hood.

What would've been nice is if Kaminari had an '04+ version of their vented hood (vent in front) when I needed to replace my hood dented by snow falling from my roof. Still not an +04 version available.

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-08-16 01:45 PM

Well compared to a stock intercooler scoop, it's probably not hurting you. Compared to a sealed hood, it is.

knucklesplitter 2005-08-16 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
Well compared to a stock intercooler scoop, it's probably not hurting you. Compared to a sealed hood, it is.

Agreed. That is probable. I don't have a feel for how much and what this mean in real-world terms.

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-08-16 02:54 PM

I doubt it's something you'd notice unless you were pushing the car 10/10ths on a track.

Kevin M 2005-08-16 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter
What would've been nice is if Kaminari had an '04+ version of their vented hood (vent in front) when I needed to replace my hood dented by snow falling from my roof. Still not an +04 version available.

What about the Seibon vented hood?

sperry 2005-08-16 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
What about the Seibon vented hood?

I don't think this abortion would look right on a car that he's trying to stealth out.

http://yakuzaracing.com/media/seiboncwhood.jpg

:lol:

Kevin M 2005-08-16 03:12 PM

WRC2005 hood it is then. :p I htought the Seibon hood had a forward vent on it like the Kaminari. Maybe that's the VIS I was thinking of. I dunno, I hate non-OEM looking hoods. :)

knucklesplitter 2005-08-16 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
I doubt it's something you'd notice unless you were pushing the car 10/10ths on a track.

"But this one goes to 11."

M3n2c3 2005-08-16 06:24 PM

If it was white, I'd offer to trade hoods :|


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