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Ezdno 2005-12-18 10:27 AM

Snow Donkey's 2
 
Ok I hate to do this but Dean was right about my Falken 3 season tires. I think the 3 seasons they were talking about is Late Spring, Summer, and Early Fall, because they suck in snow.

I need to get some winter tires dammit. This is only the 2nd time I have driven this car in the snow, and its a whole lot different than my honda. No Snow donkey's yet, but I had a near miss already.

Who will get the first one? :?:

DARKSTI 2005-12-18 11:01 AM

I almost got stuck also 2 times on the RE070s, i was fine once i was going, but starting on a incline sucks ass, thank god for the DCCD

M3n2c3 2005-12-18 11:03 AM

Sigh. It'll probably be me as I limp from Dayton to Carson on my re92s. This is my first winter with my RS.

DARKSTI 2005-12-18 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by M3n2c3
Sigh. It'll probably be me as I limp from Dayton to Carson on my re92s. This is my first winter with my RS.

Same here, ive driven my moms '95 Legacy Wagon for a few winters, but this is much different.

M3n2c3 2005-12-18 11:33 AM

The only other car I'd ever driven in snow was my Eagle. . . FWD (traction control, thankfully), all-seasons, and it was about 500lbs heavier.

Nick Koan 2005-12-18 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DARKSTI
I almost got stuck also 2 times on the RE070s, i was fine once i was going, but starting on a incline sucks ass, thank god for the DCCD

Hah, yeah. Those are definitely not passable in the snow.

But, I have to say, fart cans + backing up in the snow = fun!

MattR 2005-12-18 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Hah, yeah. Those are definitely not passable in the snow.

But, I have to say, fart cans + backing up in the snow = fun!


So Saturday night I took the Sti out, no sign of bad weather...Sunday morning, wake up to snow..So I drove it from Carrie's house to mine on RE070's...bad idea, damn those tires suck in the snow :lol:

bruspeed 2005-12-18 02:51 PM

Last night I was leaving the bar, Decided to stab the throttle just to see how slick it was with my re92's, IT instantly shot t 6 grand, so I grabbed second and stayed in it, the speedo hit 65 before I got bored and let her coast to my usual 20 mph. Moral of teh story, Buy real winter tires. RE92s are scary :eek:

DARKSTI 2005-12-18 03:38 PM

Good moral, i just about go stuck again, i cant belive SOA puts those tires on t.he car

cody 2005-12-18 03:45 PM

Yah, my Proxes 4's seem no better than the RE92s. Accelerates well enough, but stopping on a decline+crappy Suby ABS=scary.

Nick Koan 2005-12-18 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DARKSTI
Good moral, i just about go stuck again, i cant belive SOA puts those tires on t.he car

They are amazing tires in the summer, but they don't have a snow rating, which kinda blows. I wish salesmen (esp. in snowy areas like up here) would remind people that these tires are not meant for the snow.

sperry 2005-12-18 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DARKSTI
Good moral, i just about go stuck again, i cant belive SOA puts those tires on t.he car

People say that a lot. In reality the re92 isn't that bad of a tire. It's adequate in all conditions, but great in none... sounds just like you'd expect to get on a car from the factory.

Nick Koan 2005-12-18 04:00 PM

I've only driven one winter on real deal snow tires, and all in all, the RE92's ain't bad. I've certainly driven on worse.

Forgotten 2005-12-18 04:19 PM

I had a brief glimpse last night. I walked out of my room past my M3s in my living room out to my RE070 shod car. I was picking up someone from college terrace which is ~3 blocks away or so. It's doing fine all the way and it's even a bit hard to break traction. I stop at the final stop sign and pull away slowly to make sure i can stop. I hit the brakes at about 5mph and I start sliding and ABS kicks in. I let off and eased into the brakes, but only maintained speed that way. Anything harder I would lose traction. So I ended up sliding 300 feet or so onto Sierra. As we were leaving a snowball nailed my passenger side. What is wrong with some people?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20.../Hillslide.jpg
Sweet MSpaint Illustration

The car on the street is there for scale.

M3n2c3 2005-12-18 08:50 PM

Ok, I'm gonna stop bad-mouthing the re92s now. They did fine going to work and coming back, and after getting back I drove up the long dead end street here and proceeded to tear it up for a little while to get a feel for the car's limits. They're not bad as long as you drive moderately. I was going out of my way to break traction and even when I did, it returned very quickly due to AWD. The only real issue I see is the fact that since the car is so light (at least relatively), it has a tendency to follow ruts in the snow rather easily.

MattR 2005-12-18 09:01 PM

Pete, nice effort there.. :lol:

Ezdno 2005-12-18 10:14 PM

That looks like the luge!

Forgotten 2005-12-18 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Pete, nice effort there.. :lol:

During finals, my effort does not go to studying. It goes to MSpainting.

Libila 2005-12-19 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Forgotten
During finals, my effort does not go to studying. It goes to MSpainting.

Good work! Pff, finals...

PS: I was outside detailing my car in shorts and a t-shirt yesterday :cool:

JonnydaJibba 2005-12-19 09:18 AM

This was the first time this season I was really able to get wicked in the snow, and it was awesome. Almost came close to a donkey encounter a couple times but I saved it, or got lucky.

ScottyS 2005-12-19 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
People say that a lot. In reality the re92 isn't that bad of a tire. It's adequate in all conditions, but great in none... sounds just like you'd expect to get on a car from the factory.

Yep. Far better then driving my old 2WD Toyota PU with bad tires and sandbags in the bed.....

Bob Danger 2005-12-19 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Libila

PS: I was outside detailing my car in shorts and a t-shirt yesterday :cool:

Tim you suck.
I get NO traction in the Corolla, and the brakes don't work in the Probe, I was totally boned on Sunday.

Ezdno 2005-12-19 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Libila
PS: I was outside detailing my car in shorts and a t-shirt yesterday :cool:

I guess that is one good thing about texas. Whats the score?

Libila 2005-12-19 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezdno
I guess that is one good thing about texas. Whats the score?

Something like Texas: 1 Nevada: 1,350

Dean 2005-12-22 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by M3n2c3
Ok, I'm gonna stop bad-mouthing the re92s now. They did fine going to work and coming back, and after getting back I drove up the long dead end street here and proceeded to tear it up for a little while to get a feel for the car's limits. They're not bad as long as you drive moderately. I was going out of my way to break traction and even when I did, it returned very quickly due to AWD. The only real issue I see is the fact that since the car is so light (at least relatively), it has a tendency to follow ruts in the snow rather easily.

If you read the car and driver "Max Performance" tire article, you see one of the things they talk about is how a tire recovers when it does lose traction. If I had to say something that the RE92s excel at, it is recovery. Unless you are flat out abusing them, they give you plenty of warning, and break away gradually, and when they do lose traction, they regain it quite easily. They do this pretty equally well in the dry, wet, and even snow. Nobody really gets a saving throw on ice, but they do OK...

M3n2c3 2005-12-23 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean
If you read the car and driver "Max Performance" tire article, you see one of the things they talk about is how a tire recovers when it does lose traction. If I had to say something that the RE92s excel at, it is recovery. Unless you are flat out abusing them, they give you plenty of warning, and break away gradually, and when they do lose traction, they regain it quite easily. They do this pretty equally well in the dry, wet, and even snow. Nobody really gets a saving throw on ice, but they do OK...

Yeah, their predictability seemed to be their most notable quality while I was horsing around.

dknv 2006-02-17 10:19 PM

Herds of snow donkeys on Beaumont tonight! Too many cars either couldn't stop going down the hill and over the curbs, or couldn't get traction coming up the hill. I couldn't believe the weird squiggles that tires can make when traction is gone. Wish I could get some pictures.

Luckily I got the Blizzak Revos this year, its nearly as good as the TFG's. Going down the hill, coming back up, no problem-o ....

Kevin M 2006-02-17 10:48 PM

While I was doing a bunch of donuts and doriftos in our empty work parking lot, a coworker stuffed his Kia Rio into a curb on the way out of the other side. Fubared his control arm. I am now convinced that, short of 4"+ of standing snow on the road, I don't really need a 4WD, although I plan to have another by next winter anyway. And 10k.8k coilovers with almost 2" of lowering probably won't help my winter traction much either. :lol:

Nick Koan 2006-02-17 11:00 PM

On the way to dinner, Scott and I saw 3 wrecks :eek:

Ezdno 2006-02-18 12:04 AM

Well I am torn between installing my blizzaks with about a month of winter left or just trying to make it on the falkens.

My "used" Blizzaks are brand new, the chick has a kia or suzuki suv thing that the tires were too short, she put them on then took them off. I know the falkens are snow donkies waiting to happen though.

I didnt see any wrecks on the way home, but SV was already iced over about 8pm

LetItRev 2006-02-18 12:10 AM

I was getting on to 395 N from S. Virginia tonight and some asshat in a mustang, with plus sized wheels/tires, tried to pass someone, got sideways and launched off the ramp!

DARKSTI 2006-02-18 12:22 AM

Yea, they had Mae Anne blocked off from Robb to Ambassador 1 cop at each intersection due to ice, to give an idea how bad it was, I was spinning at 1500rpm, barely any gas. I made it out tho :D

sperry 2006-02-18 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LetItRev
I was getting on to 395 N from S. Virginia tonight and some asshat in a mustang, with plus sized wheels/tires, tried to pass someone, got sideways and launched off the ramp!

Is that what that was? Nick and I passed that one.

LetItRev 2006-02-18 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Is that what that was? Nick and I passed that one.

This was at about 9pm. The car ended up to the left of the roadway. This happened with a one car buffer in front of me.

Joeyy 2007-02-27 01:53 PM

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Bump, after driving to S.F. Sunday morning and back Sunday night I wish I had my camera then. Cory asked were the Snow Donkeys were on the snow shoveling thread. The wife called about going to lunch so on the road I went. Figured the Snow Donkeys had to be around in town, so the camera came along.

The first was just a pickup that must have been Donkey related. The female is standing in the street looking for what direction the donkey ran in. I was to late to get the donkey in the picture but I think he was not far away.

The second picture. The Snow Donkey did not make any contact with these folks. Instead, the Donkey confused the group with Donkey Mind Bomb. They all had to stand outside and look at the tire chains while one person worked.

I have to pick up my better half tonight and maybe just maybe I'll get a shot of the Snow Donkey at work.

JonnydaJibba 2007-02-27 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeyy (Post 91929)
Cory asked were the Snow Donkeys were on the snow shoveling thread.

Oh come on! :lol:

Joeyy 2007-02-27 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba (Post 91931)
Oh come on! :lol:

Shhhhhhhhhhhh!... Look at the nice pictures and shut your trap.:P

Kevin M 2007-02-27 02:06 PM

Where and were could easily jsut be a typo.

left footed whooten 2007-02-27 02:15 PM

I heard there is plenty of snow donkey action in the roundabouts around truckee. Gonna go investigate here in a few.

cody 2007-02-27 02:18 PM

I also had the "pleasure" of driving home from the Bay Area Sunday Night. Took about 5 hours to get from Auburn to Stead. My poor clutch. :(

Nick Koan 2007-02-27 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cody (Post 91935)
I also had the "pleasure" of driving home from the Bay Area Sunday Night. Took about 5 hours to get from Auburn to Stead. My poor clutch. :(

Only 5? I was hearing horror stories of like 8-12 hour delays :eek:

NevadaSTi 2007-02-27 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan (Post 91938)
Only 5? I was hearing horror stories of like 8-12 hour delays :eek:

I too came back from Sac area on Sunday. We left Roseville at 12:30pm and I finally made it home at 6:30 pm.

About half way down 80 coming into Reno, there was a black wrx wagon parked on the side of the road with half its front bumper missing. Anyone else see that one? That was the only Subaru fatality I saw.

My car has Blizzak Revo's on it, all I can say is that I pissed off about 300 cars that I passed once I got past the chain monkeys. I can't tell you how many people flipped me off. Hell, I was only doing 25 - 30 mph.

sperry 2007-02-27 04:57 PM

"Donkey Mind Bomb"... :lol:

cody 2007-02-27 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NevadaSTi (Post 91942)
I too came back from Sac area on Sunday. We left Roseville at 12:30pm and I finally made it home at 6:30 pm.

About half way down 80 coming into Reno, there was a black wrx wagon parked on the side of the road with half its front bumper missing. Anyone else see that one? That was the only Subaru fatality I saw.

My car has Blizzak Revo's on it, all I can say is that I pissed off about 300 cars that I passed once I got past the chain monkeys. I can't tell you how many people flipped me off. Hell, I was only doing 25 - 30 mph.

I was surprised at how well my Proxes 4's did. I also used the "Subaru Lane" and passed loads of people who thought that 80 should only be one lane.

I did notice a Subaru pulled off to the side in deep snow, but I though it was an Outback...visibility was pretty bad though.

cody 2007-02-27 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan (Post 91938)
Only 5? I was hearing horror stories of like 8-12 hour delays :eek:

Maybe going the opposite direction? They were stopping Westbound traffic at Stateline according to the Caltrans Hotlline.

SteveM 2007-02-27 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cody (Post 91956)
Maybe going the opposite direction? They were stopping Westbound traffic at Stateline according to the Caltrans Hotlline.

Yeah, going the opposite direction. I watched the news on Sunday night, then left to come back down here at like 4:30AM Monday, there were still a metric buttload of people heading west, at least on 50. Including a van that thought 10 mph was the maximum speed limit with chains. :lol:

left footed whooten 2007-02-27 06:25 PM

Tried to go to Truckee today, about 3pm.....no way Jose. Turned around at last Verdi exit.

Joeyy 2007-02-27 06:54 PM

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Well it came time to leave the house to pick up the better half from work. Westbound was held again so it was time to go thru town. Wow, it looked like new years week. Everything was stopped and everyone was on there cellphones.

After picking up the wife, things finally got a little more interesting. Actually, alot more interesting with a snow donkey sighting. Finally the little guy caught on film at the seen of a big rigs demise as it was stuck on the Central Truckee off ramp. Yep caught red handed. We have you Snow Donkey, your time is limited. Spring is coming soon.

Dean 2007-02-27 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveM (Post 91959)
Yeah, going the opposite direction. I watched the news on Sunday night, then left to come back down here at like 4:30AM Monday, there were still a metric buttload of people heading west, at least on 50. Including a van that thought 10 mph was the maximum speed limit with chains. :lol:

Never dis someone going slow in the snow. Reserve all ridicule and disdain for the morons in 2+ ton SUVs and pickup trucks and other vehicles going 50MPH+ without a physics exemption in effect. Someone going slow is unlikely to injure or kill anyone. The same cannot be said for the later.

left footed whooten 2007-02-27 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeyy (Post 91964)
Well it came time to leave the house to pick up the better half from work. Westbound was held again so it was time to go thru town. Wow, it looked like new years week. Everything was stopped and everyone was on there cellphones.

After picking up the wife, things finally got a little more interesting. Actually, alot more interesting with a snow donkey sighting. Finally the little guy caught on film at the seen of a big rigs demise as it was stuck on the Central Truckee off ramp. Yep caught red handed. We have you Snow Donkey, your time is limited. Spring is coming soon.

That's a good one.


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