2006 Reno SCCA Schedule
 

So, no more east/west matchup with Idaho, huh?

Divisional? (June 24/25?)

No, No more Winnemucca Challenge, the airport wants a large site deposit now, and it's just not worth it.

Also, we have yet to decide on the divisional. We will put it to vote at the Wed Club meeting. As of right now, it looks like there will be no divisional, but I think Dave D is still pushing to get it on the schedule. IF we do decide to have a divisional, it will indeed be that weekend of June 24-25.

Same weekend as nascar at infineon. Again. :(

You mean "Same weekend as Grand Prix du Canada". Which is fine for me, 'cause now I got a great excuse to miss the Divisional, if we happen to have one that weekend.

I think directors and officers are required to be there. :lol:

Well, 2 directors will be in Montreal!

I'll be there to vote against the divisional. Until the division can put together a solid program that adds value, it is way to much effort for to little reward i nmy mind.

I'd much rather have a normal 10 or so run casual weekend than a 6 run bust my ass weekend with a side of extra BS.

I don't think I could have said it better myself Dean.

Re: divisional, I like the idea of having a number of out-of-region high caliber drivers who come here as opposed to traveling somewhere else to drive with them at the same event; but I didn't necessarily like the fact that it was considered two of our points events, and diluted the distribution of points. (Same thing goes for N/S challenge in Hawthorne as well as the now-defunct Winnemucca challenge.)

And Dean, what was your experience about the extra side of BS? Yes, it was a ton of work, is that your definition of bs?

I vote for no divisional!! Three runs, on what was easily the crappiest track we had all year, along with all the extra paperwork and hassle, and having to be there all day ... for 1:30 on track? No!

pffftt! They were all slow! :P

No. I can clearly define BS; dealing with Kattie, as well as the additional T&S headaches.

There is nothing in the rules saying you can't run 5 runs, but Kattie won't let us. Here claim is you don't get 5 runs at a tour, or nationals. BFD! This is not those events. She does none of the prep work and then swoops in the day of the event and tells everybody what they should be doing, and why what they are doing is wrong. I won't go into the T&S crap, but lets just say there is a bunch.

Also, I would be surprised if anybody who experiences last year's fiasco of a total of six 30 second runs is likley to drive from anywhere, much less Reno for such an event with gas prices where they are likely to be.

You mean, that there's nothing in the rules for allowing 5 runs, (although only the first 3 count), right? I must be losing my mind, didn't we have fun runs on Sat.

But as steward, that's her role (make sure everybody's doing it 'right' according to the rulebook, because the out of region drivers for the most part expect things to be run by the book) -- sorry it affected you as bs.

But you reminded me of the other issue that's been discussed, that the divisional, as a series of Norpac events, doesn't provide the right incentives to get the participation that a divisional deserves.

EXACTLY! That lady creates stress and conflict.

Didn't some out of town mini cooper take pax both days? :(

At the upcoming NORPAC convention, the direction of a Divisional series will be discussed at length. I agree with the stance Dean has had all along...If there's no incentive, or organized series, then the events will fail. There is too much effort in both putting on the event, and attending them from a distance. I think given the state of the Divisional series (non-existant for the most-part) we should at least take a year off from hosting a divisional while the series is built.

Good. Are you going to attend that discussion (Mr. Director)?

The other troubling part of a divisional series, is that the two other major west coast events that are (were) part of it were National Tours. In NT's, you can also race for contingency winnings, cash or tire allowances, something not available here.

The rules say minimum of 3, there is no limitation to 3. You could run 7 for all the rule book cares. We Ran 4 on Sat. two years ago, and Kattie had a caniption! The series can't look like the tour because it isn't. it has to find it's own character/personality.

Yes, that was one of my points. Until the division has a concrete plan for marketing, and benefits for the series, it is a waste, and a burden. It was such a great thing to get my 2003 division "trophy" in June/July of 2004... What an incentive. Not!

That may be the Chief stewards role, but her methods and attitude are not approriate for a voulenteer organization.

The last unrelated straw for me was at Wendover while I was working the entry gate and Kattie and Kevin came blasting through the gate without slowing or stopping for arm band check, and ignoring my direction to slow down. The egos are out of control.

Who was driving?! :lol:
(Sorry, I know it wasn't funny at the time; I know others who agree with you on this point.)

Changing the subject - 3 weekends of club trials at RFR, are those locked in? I really want to get the rx8 out there ...

Kevin, but when I brought it up politely and privatly later to Kattie, she got all deffensive and pissy, not appoligetic. Kevin was a little better.

Autocross already has a low payoff/work ratio even if you're doing 5 or 6 runs per day. If you get down to 3 runs, it's almost worthless. IMO.

Yes, Locked in and committed. Also, the roll bar rules have been lifted, so your car and mine are legal for trials. should be a lot of fun.

oops, oh yeah, these are Club Trials, not Solo Trials.

I'm going to go stir-crazy waiting for April.

Shouldn't this get stickied in place of the 2005 sched?

April will be here before you know it. Are you going to run Novice or something else? Did you ever get any wheels or tires?

What's it going to cost to run in the Autox school on the 1st? Will it be the same as a regular track day 20 for members 30 for non-members.?

I'm not sure about the school, but this year regular days will be $25 for members and $35 for non members

What is the cost for RNP if you want to run AM for points and PM for no points?

I have a new RNP toy coming soon...

$10 US Dollars.

Can I guess?

You can try. The class has an "F" in it...

Sweet, I didn't know "PFR" was a class this season.

:lol:

.. and some numbers? Cool!

What's a Test and Tune?

What's a Club Trial? I think that's what I went to...just driving no competition?

The nomenclature has changed for this season. Here's the current naming scheme:

Autocross:
School - the annual n00b school to teach people what autocross is about
Test-n-Tune - a non-points event where runs are available for testing your car
Points Event - a normal regional event, points are awarded towards the regional championships
Divisional Event - a more involved event, points are awarded towards the regional championships and the divisional championship (we are not holding a Divisional this year)
National Tour Event - even more involved than a divisional, very tough competition, points are awarded towards the National Tour championship
Nationals - the week-long year end National Championship event held in Topeka

Trials:
PDX (Level 1) - Performance Driving Experience, i.e. a "track day" where the point is simply track time and instruction, no timing
Club Trial (Level 2) - A time trial event where instruction is available, think of it as a timed track day
Track Trial (Level 3) - A time trial event where competition is the focus
Hill Climb (Level 4) - Think "Pikes Peak"... this is the top level of SCCA time trials

You've done a PDX. We don't have any of those scheduled this season. We'll be running Club Trials w/ Track Trials available for some of the higher preped cars.

Well mark me down for the Hill Climb! :lol:

mm, also in Autocross (now known also as Solo) is ProSolo - mirror courses with dragstrip start. These are national level events and a points series; closest to Reno would be Atwater in May.

As much as I'd love to see Pat in a Camaro...I'm guessing this car has no fenders.

Both correct, F125.
Was it the "F" or the "toy" that tipped you off?

Process of elimination for me. You are from wisconsin, but I can't see you with a "Wisconsin Waterfall" haircut, so no Camaro. A "Toy" wouldn't be an F-Mod car. So, F125 it is.

I think that is a good move man. Maybe you can start racing it on the track in lemmon valley once you get good.

Toy. How will you get both vehicles to Stead?

That's the plan: Wheel-to-wheel baby.

Whew. You had me worried you were going for a double-decker already. It s/b a blast!
(So when you RNP'ing the kart, want to let me RNP the S2000? ;) )

I'd like to sign up for that also!

Help I'm blind :
So i looked in this thread, a few others, and on renoscca.com and i can't find the starting Time for the April 1st auto X Class . can someone kindly tell me at what time the classes start at ?

Good question, I have a couple of guys at work asking the same thing. I'm sure someone will chime in with an answer.

On a mildly related note, weather.com was predicting sunshine and 60 degree temperatures for the weekend when I checked first thing this morning. I just checked again and they have changed their mind to rain every day. Could they be any less accurate?

Ask your new buddy Jim. :p

Not intentionally.