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MattR 2006-10-02 02:24 PM

October = Baseball Heaven
 
Well, Baseball postseason is here, even though the Angels missed the AL Wildcard, my Boys in Blue are still in it. Go Dodgers!

I think the Dodgers have a ligitimate shot at beating the Mets in Round 1 of the NL. Mets pitching has been struggling, and now Pedro is injured. Also, LA has been hot lately, scoring tons of runs and their pitching has been excellent.

Out West, I'm actually pulling for the A's, but I'm affraid they will fall flat on their faces like always and live up to their "Choakland" nickname.

My Picks..

NL= Dodgers
AL= Yankees

sperry 2006-10-02 02:56 PM

Dodgers/Yankees WS? I'll kill myself before watching that... those are the two teams I hate the most in Baseball. :(

In my fantasy world:

OAK def. MIN
DET def. NYY
SD def. STL
NYM def. LAD

OAK def. DET
SD def. NYM

OAK over SD in the World Series. :cool:

Unfortunately, Minnisota's a decent team, so I'm not sure the choakland A's will even get past Round 1. At least they're not playing the Yankees in the ALDS or my money would be on a 5th game 5 loss. :(

skimonkey30 2006-10-02 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Dodgers/Yankees WS? I'll kill myself before watching that... those are the two teams I hate the most in Baseball. :(

I couldnt agree more :lol:

Nick Koan 2006-10-02 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Dodgers/Yankees WS? I'll kill myself before watching that... those are the two teams I hate the most in Baseball. :(

The only thing worse would be a Dodgers/Yankees/Braves threeway suckfest.

MattR 2006-10-02 04:23 PM

You guys are fags. You'll see the Dodgers have it this year.

I wouldn't root against the Padres though, they are strong.

Believe me, I hate the yankees, I just think they're the best in the AL right now.

Nick Koan 2006-10-02 04:25 PM

Oh, don't mind us bitter Giants fans :p

MattR 2006-10-02 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan
Oh, don't mind us bitter Giants fans :p


Man, no kidding. :lol: :lol:

Dodger's v A's would be a funny flashback series. In fact, I do believe the Dodgers/ A's WS from way back is coincidently m first great baseball memory AND sperry's first tragic babseball memory. :lol:

Remember this guy :D
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Kir...C10103671.jpeg

Kevin M 2006-10-02 04:44 PM

I hate Kirk Gibson with an intensity that only rival sports figures can generate.

Also, I was at Game 3 in 1988. The first of 9 straight A's games I went to wehre McGwire homered and the A's won. I should have written him a letter, he might have gotten me season tickets. :lol:

khail19 2006-10-02 06:09 PM

All I have to say is...






























GO YANKEES!!!:banana:

Ezdno 2006-10-03 01:00 PM

I would love the see the A's get another chance to pummel the Dodgers, but I would prefer a Mets's vs A's rematch.....

I would not watch if its a Dodgers vs Yankees Series, I would clean the garage for 7 days!

Kevin M 2006-10-03 01:39 PM

Mets/A's rematch...?

Ezdno 2006-10-03 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Mets/A's rematch...?


Yes in 1973 the A's played the Mets, and won, the 1974 Dodgers and won, and the 1972 Reds and Won.

Although I am a HUGE A's fan, I would like to see the Mets vs A's again.

I am old, I got to go to two series games 1972 vs the Reds, and Game 3 vs the Reds in 1990...I was really too young in 72 to remember much, but I truly hated the 1990 game. The only person that I hate worse than Gibson is Sabo.

I don't really care who the A's play as long as they kick their asses!

Joeyy 2006-10-03 02:49 PM

Anybody see the A's game today? I'm going to blame the cone hits due to blending in with the pavement at Stead like the right feilder with the dome ceiling. "Can't see the ball". At least he made a good play on the next hit, cathcing the liner to him and making a good throw to home.

MattR 2006-10-03 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeyy
Anybody see the A's game today? I'm going to blame the cone hits due to blending in with the pavement at Stead like the right feilder with the dome ceiling. "Can't see the ball". At least he made a good play on the next hit, cathcing the liner to him and making a good throw to home.


Yeah, great game, poor Milton though, that ball was no where for him.

qksubi 2006-10-03 08:02 PM

This is when I start to watch basball :P

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-04 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Man, no kidding. :lol: :lol:

Dodger's v A's would be a funny flashback series. In fact, I do believe the Dodgers/ A's WS from way back is coincidently m first great baseball memory AND sperry's first tragic babseball memory. :lol:

Remember this guy :D
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Kir...C10103671.jpeg

FUCK THAT GUY

I was in the stands when that happend. I still want to break his knees with a bat

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-04 02:12 PM

and if you could not guess

http://www.maxtastic.org/pics/oakland_logo.jpg

Kevin M 2006-10-04 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
I still want to break his knees with a bat

Dude, you could break Gibson's knees with a soda straw. :lol:

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-04 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezdno
The only person that I hate worse than Gibson is Sabo.

Sabo was ok, it was the whole Gibson is a gimp and pulled one out of his ass for his team against the best closer in the league at the time that gets to me

MattR 2006-10-04 03:01 PM

Boy, it's getting ugly in New York right now, top of the 8th,,uuhhggg.

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-04 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Boy, it's getting ugly in New York right now, top of the 8th,,uuhhggg.

BEAT LA

MattR 2006-10-04 03:09 PM

Beat Scott B!!!!!!!!

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-04 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Beat Scott B!!!!!!!!

I'm not bitter or anything for 88

MattR 2006-10-04 03:15 PM

Son of a bitch...Mets up 1-0

MattR 2006-10-04 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
I'm not bitter or anything for 88


Just like all A's fans. :lol: You have a right to be bitter for 88.

sperry 2006-10-04 07:51 PM

The Gibson homerun is the second most incredible thing I've ever seen in Baseball history... (second only to the day Cal broke the iron-horse record). It's just a shame that it happened against my childhood hero, Dennis Eckersley. I was seriously disturbed for like 3 weeks after that game... it took about 10 years before I started to realize how unbelieveably amazing that Dodger's victory was. It was like The Natural, but for real. I almost feel bad that I'll never truely appreciate it like Dodgers fans did, but I'm an A's far for life, and forever a Dodger hater.

skimonkey30 2006-10-04 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
BEAT LA

BEAT LA

Ezdno 2006-10-05 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I'm an A's far for life, and forever a Dodger hater.

amen!

sperry 2006-10-06 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by skimonkey30
BEAT LA

BEAT LA!

MattR 2006-10-06 08:39 AM

Well, it looks like the Dodgers are in trouble, so you A's queens are getting your way.

skimonkey30 2006-10-06 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Well, it looks like the Dodgers are in trouble, so you A's queens are getting your way.

A's queen? KMA

sperry 2006-10-06 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR
Well, it looks like the Dodgers are in trouble, so you A's queens are getting your way.

What are you talking about? Haven't the A's lost 3 of their last 5 post-season series losses in game 5? Weren't they up 2-0 against the Yankees, then got swept 3 in a row in Oakland?

It could be 15 to 1 A's, top of 9, two outs, two strikes, game 3, in Oakland, and I'm still scared of a Minnisota come-back.

But yeah, it's looking bad for them Dodgers. :devil:

MattR 2006-10-06 08:47 AM

Sorry, Giants queens too.

MattR 2006-10-06 08:48 AM

I'm just saying all your negativity towards the Dodgers is paying off, they are not playing well at all.

As far as teh A's go, they are nowhere near in the clear, a 2-0 lead for the A's means nothing given their recent experience.

Ezdno 2006-10-06 09:23 AM

The dodgers will probably win tonight with Maddux, I never bet against Maddux. I have refocused my negative chi towards the Yankee's the only team I hate worse than the Dodger's is the Yankee's. That is a big injury to Nomar, him not being in the line up changes the whole dodger dynamic, even though his replacement did produce the only spark for the Dodger's.

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-06 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
The Gibson homerun is the second most incredible thing I've ever seen in Baseball history... (second only to the day Cal broke the iron-horse record). It's just a shame that it happened against my childhood hero, Dennis Eckersley. I was seriously disturbed for like 3 weeks after that game... it took about 10 years before I started to realize how unbelieveably amazing that Dodger's victory was. It was like The Natural, but for real. I almost feel bad that I'll never truely appreciate it like Dodgers fans did, but I'm an A's far for life, and forever a Dodger hater.

1. fuck Gibson (I think I covered that before)

2. Ripkins ironman record is a fucking sham. He did not play every inning of every game like Lou Gehrig did. Cal would play the 7 innings to get the full game in the books and pull himself out. He would even DH just to make sure to keep his streak running.

Gehrig played every inning of every game for that entire streak.

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-06 03:15 PM

8-2 Oakland

YES !

MattR 2006-10-06 04:00 PM

Way to go A's

sperry 2006-10-06 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
1. fuck Gibson (I think I covered that before)

2. Ripkins ironman record is a fucking sham. He did not play every inning of every game like Lou Gehrig did. Cal would play the 7 innings to get the full game in the books and pull himself out. He would even DH just to make sure to keep his streak running.

Gehrig played every inning of every game for that entire streak.

Ripken = 2,632 games (1st), 8,234 consecutive innings (1st)
Gehrig = 2,130 games (2nd)
Buck Freeman = 5,342 consecutive innings (2nd)

I'd say Cal was the real deal... 502 more games than Gehrig, and almost 3,000 more consecutive innings over the 2nd place more than makes up for the DH position. And Gehrig certainly didn't play every inning of every game in his streak. Plus Ripken did it in the modern era with more games per season (meaning less down time to recover), and a higher level of competition. Remember Cal didn't just "show up", he also contributed (not to say Gehrig didn't). Even if the last few years when he moved to 3rd base and he wasn't producing as he had in the 80's, he was still more than just going through the motions.

IMO, Ripken's record is the last true record before all this current steroids nonsense. There's no friggen way you can try to asterik that one.

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-06 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Ripken = 2,632 games (1st), 8,234 consecutive innings (1st)
Gehrig = 2,130 games (2nd)
Buck Freeman = 5,342 consecutive innings (2nd)

I'd say Cal was the real deal... 502 more games than Gehrig, and almost 3,000 more consecutive innings over the 2nd place more than makes up for the DH position. And Gehrig certainly didn't play every inning of every game in his streak. Plus Ripken did it in the modern era with more games per season (meaning less down time to recover), and a higher level of competition. Remember Cal didn't just "show up", he also contributed (not to say Gehrig didn't). Even if the last few years when he moved to 3rd base and he wasn't producing as he had in the 80's, he was still more than just going through the motions.

IMO, Ripken's record is the last true record before all this current steroids nonsense. There's no friggen way you can try to asterik that one.

As far as I can remember when the argument started when Cal beat Lou for the title, there was proof that Gehrig did play all 9 innings of every game he was in. I cannot find it so maybe it does not exist, but I ask you to disprove it as well :D

didn't Conseco go 40/40 before Ripkin got his ironman title?

I honestly think thats when the steroid era began

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-06 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Ripken = 2,632 games (1st), 8,234 consecutive innings (1st)
Gehrig = 2,130 games (2nd)
Buck Freeman = 5,342 consecutive innings (2nd)

and just to point out, there were 23,688 innings total in Ripkens' record. he only played 34% of his games consecutively. This of course is not counting extra innings which no way in hell I am going to research that :P

I still believe that Gherig played all his 2130 consecutively.

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-06 04:54 PM

I believe this is the nail in the coffin

http://www.maxtastic.org/pics/Ripkenffcard.jpg

lol.. I have one of those in a safe deposit box along with all my other good cards :D

sperry 2006-10-07 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
and just to point out, there were 23,688 innings total in Ripkens' record. he only played 34% of his games consecutively. This of course is not counting extra innings which no way in hell I am going to research that :P

I still believe that Gherig played all his 2130 consecutively.

I'm pretty sure Ripken played 100% of his games in his consecutive game record consecutively. Or it wouldn't be a record.

And if you ment to say "34% of the innings consecutively", you're wrong again, because you're only looking at the consecutive innings from his record for consecutive innings. 34% implys that before and after that record, he *never* played two innings back to back. I'm sure there were plenty of games in the iron man record where Cal played all 9. Far more than 34%.

And there's no way Gehrig played every inning of every game in his record. I'm even willing to bet that he missed a game or two in there, but in that era records weren't 100% accuratly kept, but who would come forward to say otherwise? Now I'm not implying that Ripken's the better ball player than Gehrig... Gehrig is probably one of the top 5 players in the history of the game... I'm just saying Ripken's record is the most fanstatic thing I've ever seen. Partly due to what it meant to baseball, which at the time was at a low-point due to the '94 strike. You could say Ripken saved baseball with that record.

As far as Canseco's 40/40... Ripken's record started in '82, Canseco's 40/40 was in '88. Also, I don't believe the 40/40 was all that influenced by 'roids. You don't steal 40 bases when you're all loaded up on juice... you lose too much flexibility/speed on that stuff. '88 was probably more like the 1st year people started getting into 'roids, which is why 40/40's don't happen any more even though 40 homeruns aren't even special anymore.

Finally, what does Cal's brother's rare Fuck Face card have to do w/ the scale of Cal's record?

Ezdno 2006-10-08 08:24 AM

There is no way Gehrig played every inning of every game, the last years of his career he was in constant pain. Cal played with pain also, and playing one inning in a game is still playing in a game.

40/40 is still a pretty amazing feat. Count how many people have done it, with or without steriods.

My anti-yankee mojo seems to have worked, and I should have bet against Maddux this time.

Ezdno 2006-10-08 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Dodgers/Yankees WS? I'll kill myself before watching that... those are the two teams I hate the most in Baseball. :(

In my fantasy world:

OAK def. MIN
DET def. NYY
SD def. STL
NYM def. LAD

OAK def. DET
SD def. NYM

OAK over SD in the World Series. :cool:
(


3 of 4 so far....not bad

Mr. Xevious 2006-10-08 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I'm pretty sure Ripken played 100% of his games in his consecutive game record consecutively. Or it wouldn't be a record.

And if you ment to say "34% of the innings consecutively", you're wrong again, because you're only looking at the consecutive innings from his record for consecutive innings. 34% implys that before and after that record, he *never* played two innings back to back. I'm sure there were plenty of games in the iron man record where Cal played all 9. Far more than 34%.

And there's no way Gehrig played every inning of every game in his record. I'm even willing to bet that he missed a game or two in there, but in that era records weren't 100% accuratly kept, but who would come forward to say otherwise? Now I'm not implying that Ripken's the better ball player than Gehrig... Gehrig is probably one of the top 5 players in the history of the game... I'm just saying Ripken's record is the most fanstatic thing I've ever seen. Partly due to what it meant to baseball, which at the time was at a low-point due to the '94 strike. You could say Ripken saved baseball with that record.

As far as Canseco's 40/40... Ripken's record started in '82, Canseco's 40/40 was in '88. Also, I don't believe the 40/40 was all that influenced by 'roids. You don't steal 40 bases when you're all loaded up on juice... you lose too much flexibility/speed on that stuff. '88 was probably more like the 1st year people started getting into 'roids, which is why 40/40's don't happen any more even though 40 homeruns aren't even special anymore.

Finally, what does Cal's brother's rare Fuck Face card have to do w/ the scale of Cal's record?

I guess the problem I have with this record is its considered the "ironman" award, but you only need to play 7 innings of the game for you to be considered playing the entire game.

when I was talking about Canseco's record, I was talking about when the end of the record took place, not when Cal started it. Canseco was ripping huge home runs when he first started (anyone remember that shot in Toronto that went to the upper upper deck in the sky dome in 88??) so we have no idea if/when he started the roids. Check is picture from his 86 1/2 rookie card to his 88 card with the A's. he got pretty darn big fast.

and with the card.. I was making fun of the Ripkin family :(

and just a FYI.. I am a huge fan (is/still is) of the Bash Brothers :(

Ezdno 2006-10-10 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
I guess the problem I have with this record is its considered the "ironman" award, but you only need to play 7 innings of the game for you to be considered playing the entire game.
(

You only have to play 5 1/2 for a game to be considered complete. Say it rains or something and the game gets canceled.

sperry 2006-10-10 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezdno
You only have to play 5 1/2 for a game to be considered complete. Say it rains or something and the game gets canceled.

But you only have to be officially added to the lineup and on the field for one millisecond to have "played" in a game.

Kevin M 2006-10-10 01:32 PM

I remember reading about a theoretical way to extend the "streak" without playing. Bat him leadoff, and once the PA announcer says his name he's officially in the game. Then you pinch-hit for him. At home you do the same thing, but he has to DH.

Ezdno 2006-10-10 01:34 PM

Yes I know, and actually all you have to do in the Pro's is be announced, you might not ever even get in the game to be considered having played. How many times have you seen the strategy of a manager announce a pinch hitter to force the hand of the opposing manager and change pitchers then have the manager replace the pinch hitter with someone else.


Also best quote of the day....."its official the Yankees will not be firing Joe Torre, he will remain as the manager and finish out his contract....The Yankees are alot like the Democrats" Rush Limbaugh


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