BUSTED!!!!
 

SO, INS has come up and down Kietzke, and shut down every fast food joint with illegal immigrants working there! Wendy's is shut down, McD's, and I believe Carl's as well! :eek:

And my GF just told me she thinks they got Super Burrito on Plumb too...

That sucks. Poor Canadians. :(

No way! I hope they don't come to my work! Oh snaps!

Whooo. I thought they were shipping Cory back to Italy for a moment.

So are Nick and Mike hiding under their desks at IGT? ;)

La Migra! La Migra!

Wait, it was BK, not Carl's. In fact, Carl's is PACKED since there's no other places open on the block! :lol:


No, I'm not headed to Italia... unfortunately...

I watched a news report on K.O.L.O. (not fucking Kolo, wtf is that shit anyway), and they said that ICE was specifically targeting "Latino Americans," and they were not sure if they were after any other types of illegal immigrants. I thought it was funny that they made a point about who they are targeting like you are gonna see an illegal Russian in Mickey D's.

Super Burrito was still open at 11:00am, but there was only like two people working. I heard shortly after that they closed the dining room and were only doing drive thru orders.

Yeah, I read a report of RGJ that said they got 40+ people today.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...m/breakingnews

Awesome, so that's likely 40 families that are fucked 'cause mommy or daddy are going back "home". Meanwhile, McDonalds will keep on steamrolling the income in as soon as they hire the next batch of illegals.

I think McDonalds should have to pay to sponsor these folks they hired illegally for citizenship and pay them a fare wage from now until they're back in the US working legally.

Why? Why pay a criminal? I see your point about their families, but that's not McDonalds fault. Well not completely. MickDees should be fined, punished, whatever for employing them.

People can't keep blaming everybody else for this problem except for the people that are breaking the law. It's pretty cut and dry: if you aren't a citizen, you can't work. If you hire illegals, you are breaking the law. Or are you at the point where it's only 40 people and it won't make a difference in the huge scheme of things?

+1


You have to play to win... and you have to win... to play.

If it's a franchise then the owner should be punished not corporate.

Hook, line, and sinker! ;)

But seriously... first, yeah it's only 40 people... so this "crackdown" will have virtually ZERO effect on the problem of illegal immigration, but it will have a MASSIVE effect on the 40 families that are getting fucked with.

Second, immigrants come to this country illegally because there are jobs here... jobs that are being provided illegally. Get rid of the employers that willfully break the law, you get rid of the demand.

But more to the point, America *needs* illegal labor. Our economy needs people that are willing to work for cheap, especially in agriculture. I have a problem with the "you wanna come here, you better play by the rules" people that think this is a black and white issue. The system intentionally looks the other way on a regular basis to ensure we have the labor force here that prevents every farm in the US from being out-sourced. (As it is, even with illegal labor, we can barely compete with the price of fruits and vegetables being ground in foreign countries and shipped here.) Then, occasionally, the INS "cracks down" on illegals to show that we're fighting to uphold the laws... it's all political, makes no real difference in the "problem", and only hurts the poor families that are busted.

Now, I'm not saying we should just open up the borders... 'cause then the supply of labor would exceed the demand and the last thing we want is a bunch of unemployed migrant workers (which would indeed be a drain on public services). But we certainly should have a *legal* program that allows migrant workers to be here on an easy-to-get pass, and we should grandfather current illegals into this system (aka amnesty for current illegals).

You get, say 2 years to work w/o a social security number and pay no taxes... so you're able to make a better life for your family. After those 2 years you're expected to either return to your country of origin (where you'll be allowed to get on the list for a new 2 year pass), or you can apply for permanent residency and go through the whole deal we're requiring right now for everyone. While in the US on the migrant worker pass, you are not eligible for social programs (since you don't pay taxes), and your employers are only required to pay you a lesser minimum wage (cheap labor != serfs!)

Or something like that...

Granted it won't fix the problem entirely, but it at least recognizes that the US economy requires this sort of labor force, and that the people in this labor force aren't criminals because they want to break the law, but because the risk is far lower than the reward of being able to provide for your family.

Hell, I'd be happy with leaving the current system alone, if people would just admit the hypocrisy inherent in the system.

were not going to start talking about this again are we?

Actually, the ninja I hired should be at your house shortly to force you to post in this thread.

Very well put. But that's what gets me every time I think about this. We do NEED them to sustain the current lifestyle we have. Booting em all out would definitely put a massive strain on this country, but I think some kind of immigration reform is in order.

Maybe we should do a hostile takeover of the Mexican gov't and make it work for the people instead of being corrupt. Not quite sure how that would work though...

Only in Rancho.......heh.

GW Bush called. He wants you to stop reading his diary.

GW Bush called and asked me what the W in GW meant. I didn't have an answer for him.


New Policy should be that everyone in this country who is illegal yet are working a damn job, gets to stay and become a citizen. Anyone taking advantage of the government and sitting at home having unprotected sex and popping babies out and smoking crack and parking their shit cars on our streets and cutting in line at our movies and trashing their FEMA trailers and buying dubs rather then paying taxes and letting their front yard turn into a parking lot *breath* weather they are white, black, yellow, or brown gets sent to mexico and can never come back until they get some work ethic.

Sounds like the Peppermill got hit hard as well.

I believe it. When I worked at the Peppermill, I must have seen at least 150 "questionable" employees every shift. I figure if they really got caught, they lost give or take 500 employees.

time to go job hunting.

They will all be back in a week.:|

I like everything about your idea except the no taxes thing. These people will need to put their kids in school, drive on the street to their job, utilize police and fire, and generally enjoy the "fruits". Why shouldn't they pay some taxes?

S'what I was thinking.

They already pay a sales tax.

Sales tax is regressive, but why shouldn't they pay the same income tax that citizens who make their wage pay?

Hilarous!

I think they should come back in a month or two and re-check the places that they shut down. That should make for good comedy.

...and when they come back they should just start firing bean bags into the crowd.

Can we start with the US Gov't before getting to the Mexican one?

Good idea. A bunch of people who are just trying to make a life for themselves is probably on the bottom of the list of shit we need to get done 'round this country.

Now thats just the kind of attitude thats gonna get your ass deported back to mexico!

'Cause we'd be paying them the equivalent of slave labor wages. Is it right to pay someone half minimum wage, then take 15% of that away? They would be well below the poverty level, so if you want to apply tax laws to them, they would in fact receive welfare, not pay taxes.

The idea would be to allow them to do what they're already doing, but legally. They're already getting paid illegally low wages, and are not paying taxes, which helps the economy. The rest of us who are benefiting from their willingness to work for so cheap can take up the tab for the social services they use... we're already doing it today, and it's not so bad, is it?

If you want to figure out a way to reduce wasted taxpayer money, you're barking up the wrong tree. How about we stop spending $100B/year on wars first. For the amount we've spent on Iraq, we could give each undocumented worker in the US $65,000. We literally spend *half* of the US taxpayers money on the military in this country, and that *doesn't* include the additional $100B/year we spend on Iraq. Then there's the huge pig Social Security is... and how much worse it will be as the baby-boomers retire. There's plenty of bloated government programs to save money on without trying to prevent the 12M illegals in the US from educating their children, or denying them basic healthcare.

I guess that's cool if they are getting paid a lower min. wage...it's not like there'd be much revenue from them anyway. I have a feeling that most Republicans would hate that they wouldn't be paying taxes though, even if the GOP's are still enjoying the low prices at the supermarket that result from the low cost of labor. And many Dems would cry about Human Rights. Sometimes people can't see the big picture.

I say they get paid higher then normal wage but then all of them are forced to have a gambling problem which makes them payback most of their wages to nevada.

I'm not sure about places like McDonalds... but in the agriculture industry (where 1/4 of the workers are illegals) they get paid below minimum wage.

If anyone wants a little perspective about the amount of money we have spent fighting in & "reconstructing" Iraq, I read it's currently somewhere around $450billion. The annual budget for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, one of the two big nuclear weapons labs in this country, is about $1.6billion. You do the math. The money we've burned in Iraq alone (let alone all our other military deployments) could have built & operated several premiere new national research labs for DECADES. Think about the kind of energy research that could have been done at those facilities.

^You can't put a price on freedom!:P


:(

I like looking at it this way: the war in Iraq since 2003 has cost every man, woman, and child in America approximately $1,500 each. And then I get all pissed off.

Damn't.

Immigration reform isn't important until it affects my ability to get a burrito.

+1!


I was kidding, though.

They let 28 people go because they had families.

Wow, missed this while I was out of town. Maybe this has happened in Reno before, but I can't remember a targeted raid.

While I feel bad for those who were affected, I don't fault the INS or ICE or whatever they are called these days.

For one thing, plenty of immigrants come over to the U.S. legally; by allowing or overlooking others who are taking advantage of the system illegally, what message does that send to those who made (or plan to make) the effort? And if it's ok for those who are illegally working here to break that law, then how much thought or concern might there be about breaking other laws?

Except that it's nearly impossible to come to the US from Mexico legally. It costs more and takes longer, by far, than coming from any other country in the world, including the Middle East.

Good news. Super Burrito is 100% open. I went there yesterday :)

I apply a green card for my brother and he have to wait 12 years to do it right. Next time I will fly him to other side and let him run across the border.

12 years!?! Is it faster to get him in on a work visa or something? 12 years seems outlandish, especially for someone that's got family here already!

That's pretty standard, and it's why I no longer mind illegals from Mexico very much, because I can't in good conscience say that they should do it the legal way, because it's basically impossible.