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BOO 2007-11-15 10:09 AM

RS on side of freeway(395 S)
 
southbound 395 over by the kietzke/virginia exit I saw a broken down 2.5 blue w/ black wheels. it had a red paper/sticker by the windshield and I thought I hope it doesnt get towed. I guess what I am trying to say is I was sad to see that.

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-15 10:11 AM

Thanks. =/

It will be getting towed soon.

Kevin M 2007-11-15 10:16 AM

What happened?

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-15 10:24 AM

I was just cruisin to work, in the slow lane and my car starts decelerating pretty quickly. The tach needle starts twitching as I slow down. I shifted down once and it did that fine, but nothing would happen when I gave it gas. Then it wouldn't start. I don't know what's wrong. I'm not really that much of a gearhead. Hopefully once we tow it here in a few minutes, we can figure out how bad it is or isn't.

cody 2007-11-15 10:42 AM

I'm sure you know, but just in case, make sure they use a flatbed to tow it.

Hope it's nothing expensive.

BOO 2007-11-15 11:10 AM

good I am glad it will be towed so nothing happens to it(ie.. vandalized overnight or gets hit)

MPREZIV 2007-11-15 12:28 PM

Cranking it, it seems like it may be down on compression... Cranks fast. Maybe timing belt issue... I haven't really had time to get deep into it, but I will this afternoon.

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-15 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV (Post 109849)
Cranking it, it seems like it may be down on compression... Cranks fast. Maybe timing belt issue... I haven't really had time to get deep into it, but I will this afternoon.

Alright mang. I REALLY appreciate it.

Libila 2007-11-15 12:49 PM

I've got my fingers crossed and hoping it's nothing serious Jonny.

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-15 01:09 PM

Doesn't sound like it.

tysonK 2007-11-15 02:19 PM

STI swap!!

Sorry about the news btw.

MPREZIV 2007-11-15 03:27 PM

Looks like a timing belt issue. Compression in cylinder #2 is only 40psi... no bueno. Belt possibly jumped or lost a tooth or who knows... I'll find out soon! Gonna start tearing!

MPREZIV 2007-11-15 05:15 PM

WELL! Belt snapped! There's teeth missing from multiple spots around the belt, (which *could* be due to the gears flopping around on it after it lost tension) and burnt up belt residue all over the inside of the cover.

I'll slap a new belt and tensioner on there in the AM (checked all the other pulleys, everything looks/feels fine) and check everything out to make sure there's nothing else. Should be good tho.

ScottyS 2007-11-15 05:33 PM

Ow, no interference, I hope.

wrxkidid 2007-11-15 09:06 PM

Thats what I was thinking....*crosses findgers*

Libila 2007-11-15 10:47 PM

Sounds like good news Cory.

Hey Jonny, worst case scenrio, WRX swap?

Dean 2007-11-15 11:59 PM

I'm almost positive that is an interference engine... Only the pre-1997s SOHC engines were non-interference.

Hope it only skipped a couple teeth and nothing crashed into each other.

MPREZIV 2007-11-16 07:53 AM

See, I thought the phase 1 DOHC 2.5 was interference, and the phase 2 SOHC 2.5 was not. I'll be slaping a belt on it soon as it shows up, and rechecking comression to be sure everything's okay tho.

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libila (Post 109910)
Sounds like good news Cory.

Hey Jonny, worst case scenrio, WRX swap?

Yes. There is a corner in the back of my mind that wants my motor to be done. I've got the NA bluuues. :lol:

Dean 2007-11-16 08:52 AM

I'm just going by Wikipedia... It may be wrong.
Quote:

The SOHC EJ Subaru boxer engines were non-interference engines through 1996, run by a single timing belt driving both cams (both sides of the engine) and the water pump. If the timing belt fails, the engine of the models up to 1996 will not be destroyed but re-timing is necessary, because they are non-interference engines. The oil pump is driven directly from the crank shaft and the waterpump by the timing belt. All DOHC and 1997-up SOHC EJ engines are interference engines, if the timing belt fails the engine will likely be destroyed or the valves & piston will be heavily damaged.

MPREZIV 2007-11-16 09:05 AM

Hmm... I'm not 100% positive either... I'll definitely be checking compression after I get it turning again.

Edit: Just heard back from Jeremy. He said it IS interference...

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 09:24 AM

WOW. So... that sounds like it's gonna suck.

MPREZIV 2007-11-16 09:37 AM

Jer said essentially, that he's seen his fair share of "lucky ones" that didn't have any engine damage with a broken belt, so it's worth putting on a new belt and checking the compression. If everything looks good, ship it! If there's valve damage, down there they usually just yank the heads and replace the valves, OR you could just get a whole new motor. Depends on which one turns out cheaper tho.

I just got the parts, so I'm gonna log off and slap her together real quick! I'll keep you updated!

BOO 2007-11-16 09:57 AM

You guys are scaring me, maybe I should get mine done too as I also have an 00 rs (for those of you who didnt know).

sperry 2007-11-16 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV (Post 109925)
Jer said essentially, that he's seen his fair share of "lucky ones" that didn't have any engine damage with a broken belt, so it's worth putting on a new belt and checking the compression. If everything looks good, ship it! If there's valve damage, down there they usually just yank the heads and replace the valves, OR you could just get a whole new motor. Depends on which one turns out cheaper tho.

I just got the parts, so I'm gonna log off and slap her together real quick! I'll keep you updated!

Somehow, I've had one of those "lucky failures"... not that any failure is lucky, but I had the passenger intake cam sprocket bolt shear off and my motor grinded to a halt... no valve damage. The valves happened to snap shut on the intake cam, and everything else stayed timed until the motor stopped. :eek:

sybir 2007-11-16 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 109930)
Somehow, I've had one of those "lucky failures"... not that any failure is lucky, but I had the passenger intake cam sprocket bolt shear off and my motor grinded to a halt... no valve damage. The valves happened to snap shut on the intake cam, and everything else stayed timed until the motor stopped. :eek:


Yeah, that was nuts.

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCN0106.JPG

:lol: :cool: :eek:

MPREZIV 2007-11-16 10:25 AM

Shit... Cylinders 1 and 2 are around 165psi. Cylinders 3 and 4 are between 0 and 5. Doesn't even read on my gauge. Crap.

cody 2007-11-16 10:30 AM

Crap!

sperry 2007-11-16 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV (Post 109934)
Shit... Cylinders 1 and 2 are around 165psi. Cylinders 3 and 4 are between 0 and 5. Doesn't even read on my gauge. Crap.

You sure about those cylinder numbers? Sounds like bent valves on both sides of the motor? :(

sperry 2007-11-16 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sybir (Post 109932)
Yeah, that was nuts.

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCN0106.JPG

:lol: :cool: :eek:

Was that me saying "fuck you Aaron" for taking a picture of me right after my 4 day old motor had just died while my way back to Reno?

:mad:

sybir 2007-11-16 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 109937)
Was that me saying "fuck you Aaron" for taking a picture of me right after my 4 day old motor had just died while my way back to Reno?

:mad:

You know I love ya, cupcake.

Yeah, it was. It was also after I got the call going "the motor's dead, i need a tow" and we got the fun of getting that thing on the damn truck :D

I'm glad that particular one ended up being minimal........I just wish what came afterwards went as well :(

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 11:01 AM

Welp, I have AWESOME parents. I wouldn't be here without em. I know thats corny but they are the ones who are always there when I need help.

So with that, it's looking like I'm going to try and find a stock WRX motor. If anybody would like to assist me in the search, that would be nice.

What do you think Cory?

P.S. I just put that stupid header on!

100_Percent_Juice 2007-11-16 11:11 AM

swap that mofo!!

Dean 2007-11-16 11:33 AM

A clean snap at low RPM is what can save valves as the spring tension forces all valves to minimal extension. Or a couple teeth that just make it run terrible so you stop before a big slip.

Many missing teeth and a big slip especially on the drive shaft is the killer.

Joeyy 2007-11-16 12:03 PM

Give Paul a call at DB Tuned. Last time I was in the shop, saw a couple motors that he was building. Paul is good people and backs his work up.


Just called Paul while typing this. He has all the fixins (sp?) for a 2.5 at the shop just give hime the call. And he adds that 2.0 liters are for bitchs. Ok he may be currently off his meds but he'll do you good.

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 12:07 PM

Haha, I can't go that big.

MPREZIV 2007-11-16 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 109936)
You sure about those cylinder numbers? Sounds like bent valves on both sides of the motor? :(

Yep, I'm sure. BOTH sides. SUXORZ!

John, if you wanna swap it, anything that I can do, I'm down for! I don't know how far my shop will let me go, as far as changing the wiring and whatnot, but I'm TOTALLY in!

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV (Post 109957)
Yep, I'm sure. BOTH sides. SUXORZ!

John, if you wanna swap it, anything that I can do, I'm down for! I don't know how far my shop will let me go, as far as changing the wiring and whatnot, but I'm TOTALLY in!

Alright. Well my mammy said to find a motor ASAP. I don't really know where to start, and I want to make sure I don't get crap. I'll call that guy I guess and see what's up.

Joeyy 2007-11-16 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba (Post 109958)
Alright. Well my mammy said to find a motor ASAP. I don't really know where to start, and I want to make sure I don't get crap. I'll call that guy I guess and see what's up.

For a swap, I'll volunteer to pick up the engine with my truck.
P.S. If it's from Paul.

MPREZIV 2007-11-16 12:19 PM

P.S. Would your parents like to adopt a 27 year old black guy? 'Cause if so, I'll go outside and blow my motor up RIGHT NOW!!! :lol:

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 12:25 PM

LOL. I'm just glad they like me enough to do things like this for me. I'm fairly fond of them myself :lol: I don't want it to sound like "mommy and daddy" are buying me a motor. They are just paying for me up front.

Left a message at DB.

Joeyy 2007-11-16 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba (Post 109961)
LOL. I'm just glad they like me enough to do things like this for me. I'm fairly fond of them myself :lol:

Left a message at DB.

He's well tuning at the moment. I'll bug him to call you back...

...he was under a car but he'll call you back ASAP.

MPREZIV 2007-11-16 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOO (Post 109926)
You guys are scaring me, maybe I should get mine done too as I also have an 00 rs (for those of you who didnt know).

Yes you should... I have Moose's car here as well, (98 RS) and his water pump siezed and *almost* threw the belt! :eek: Lucky for him, everything stayed timed tho, so all I've gotta do is replace the pump, belt, tensioner, and a couple of the noisy idlers, and he should be okay.

Bad week for RS owners... Shit, makes me wanna go check out MY car!

wrxkidid 2007-11-16 12:50 PM

Cory if you arent allowed to do it at Nissan your more than welcome to use the garage.

Maybe a SECCS BBQ + Motor swap??

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 12:53 PM

I like sex bbq's.

wrxkidid 2007-11-16 12:56 PM

[Borat] We make SECCSy time, Yes? [/Borat]

sperry 2007-11-16 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba (Post 109944)
Welp, I have AWESOME parents. I wouldn't be here without em. I know thats corny but they are the ones who are always there when I need help.

So with that, it's looking like I'm going to try and find a stock WRX motor. If anybody would like to assist me in the search, that would be nice.

What do you think Cory?

P.S. I just put that stupid header on!

Cory's got dibs already, but I've got a 2.0L shortblock, and some semi-bare WRX heads in my garage, not to mention a stock WRX turbo & exhaust, ECU, and other bits if you want to come by and scavenge for what you need for a swap.

Kevin M 2007-11-16 01:06 PM

You gots PM Jon.

JonnydaJibba 2007-11-16 01:14 PM

Fuckin hell, my brain is all backwards now. Thanks for nothin guys. jay kay jay kay.

Cory, give me a holler when you have time.

JC 2007-11-16 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba (Post 109958)
Alright. Well my mammy said to find a motor ASAP. I don't really know where to start, and I want to make sure I don't get crap. I'll call that guy I guess and see what's up.

http://www.garagetuning.com/
http://www.eastcoastswappers.com/

Either one should be willing to merge just the harness for you too. So basically you can have the swap be plug and play.


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