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sperry 2010-04-02 10:25 AM

Beautiful home shop built in a small garage
 
...as found on NASIOC, this guy has converted his small 2-car garage into a gorgeous shop for woodworking and maintenance of his sweet 911 track car.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...5006&showall=1

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1875/allaround.jpg

Makes me want to tear everything out of my garage and get to work prettying up the place.

cody 2010-04-02 10:37 AM

Nice!

A1337STI 2010-04-02 11:05 AM

Makes me want a 911

:lol: Oh and a garage would be cool too!

Kevin M 2010-04-02 11:07 AM

That deserves a wow.

moose 2010-04-02 12:44 PM

Simply amazing!!

sybir 2010-04-02 02:06 PM

And if you want to read more about BB2, that gorgeous (and well-used) RSR replica, here you go.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...beauty-ii.html

doubleurx 2010-04-02 05:23 PM

That car! God I love these things. I need to redo my garage badly. I've been on the mouse hunt the last month. I think I got them all now.

Libila 2010-04-12 12:28 PM

I already need to re-clean and sort my garage. Now I really want to do it.

ScottyS 2010-04-12 12:32 PM

Yes, but how do you fit in advanced car mechanics + woodworking + general home maint + bicycle maint + electronics + theotherthingsIdo ?

I'm still trying to figure this out. You really need a 3-car garage + one 12x10 room to do this right, even if you are organized.

AkRSguy 2010-04-13 05:59 PM

makes me want a garage......period!

szucchet 2010-04-14 05:41 AM

make me want a 911......period;)

knucklesplitter 2010-04-14 05:32 PM

This cabinet color reminds me of my childhood home's kitchen from 1970. And... wait... is that a phone with a cord? A rotary dial even?

knucklesplitter 2010-04-14 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 148239)
This cabinet color reminds me of my childhood home's kitchen from 1970. And... wait... is that a phone with a cord? A rotary dial even?

Nope, not a rotary dial, but it simulates one:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1268598530.jpg

knucklesplitter 2010-04-14 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 148240)
Nope, not a rotary dial, but it simulates one...

Oh, oh, no he dihn't! He changed it out to a true rotary! And it still works on current phone lines. I'm getting one.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8909/newoldphone2.jpg

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...&postcount=121

ScottyS 2010-04-15 11:08 AM

Reminds me - I've got a black rotary desk phone in a box - I'm gonna hook it up.

MikeK 2010-04-15 03:07 PM

If you can get a red one write "Kremlin" above it.

ScottyS 2010-05-09 05:48 PM

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Done. Not quite as cool as the phone in the OP, but it works great nonetheless! The wiring was really straightforward.

You are right Mike, a "Kremlin" phone would be tops.

Double Phister 2010-05-12 01:50 PM

Would a pulse type phone like that even work on a phone tree these days?

sperry 2010-05-12 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by R4ND0M_AX3 (Post 148984)
Would a pulse type phone like that even work on a phone tree these days?

They sure do, amazingly enough.

Then again, who has a land line to plug it into these days... I sure don't.

ScottyS 2010-05-12 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R4ND0M_AX3 (Post 148984)
Would a pulse type phone like that even work on a phone tree these days?

Mine in the photo there rings great, and dials out just fine.

Double Phister 2010-05-13 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottyS (Post 148986)
Mine in the photo there rings great, and dials out just fine.

I was talking about the "press 1 to subscribe to more advertising, press 2 to add reoccuring charges to your credit card..."

I know it will ring and dial out. Now where's my blue box at?

sperry 2010-05-13 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R4ND0M_AX3 (Post 149002)
I was talking about the "press 1 to subscribe to more advertising, press 2 to add reoccuring charges to your credit card..."

I know it will ring and dial out. Now where's my blue box at?

Oh, that's what you meant by "phone tree", I was assuming you were just talking about the wiring to the house.

I bet those menus don't work... I'm pretty sure they're touch-tone only, hence all the older adverts that say stuff like "check your account from your touch-tone phone!" Supposedly if you wait on the line though it should route to an operator... if the place isn't super cheap.

But really, who's going to own an old rotary dial phone as their only phone these days... they're cool nostalgia items, not communications appliances. Needing a rotary phone that works on a menu tree is like needing a '64 Vette that gets 50 mpg.

Nick Koan 2010-05-13 09:48 AM

Get one of these:

http://gizmodo.com/5524357/iretrofon...rys-technology

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...iretrofone.jpg

Dean 2010-05-13 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan (Post 149009)

Does it come with a rotary dial app?
http://www.iphoneskinning.com/wp-con...nap_010803.png

Nick Koan 2010-05-13 09:59 AM

It doesn't come with one, but you can get there are rotary dial apps in the app store.

http://www.geekalerts.com/iretrophon...pp-for-iphone/

sperry 2010-05-13 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 149010)
Does it come with a rotary dial app?
http://www.iphoneskinning.com/wp-con...nap_010803.png

What's up with the lettering on that? O and Q on the zero, no Z?

Dean 2010-05-13 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 149013)
What's up with the lettering on that? O and Q on the zero, no Z?

Q and Z were not on old rotary phones, or even early touch tones and they were never on the 0. So it is wrong on many levels. it was just the first image of a rotary dial app I found.

sperry 2010-05-13 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 149014)
Q and Z were not on old rotary phones, or even early touch tones and they were never on the 0. So it is wrong on many levels. it was just the first image of a rotary dial app I found.

I thought old phones had "OPER" on the zero. And ABC DEF GHI JKL MNO PRS TUV WXY on 2 through 9. No Q or Z.

But either way... if that's a rotary interface for the iPhone, shouldn't the letters match the iPhone which uses the modern layout of ABC DEF GHI JKL MNO PQRS TUV WXYZ, you know, so you can use it without having to guess at the letters? :lol:

Dean 2010-05-13 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry (Post 149017)
I thought old phones had "OPER" on the zero. And ABC DEF GHI JKL MNO PRS TUV WXY on 2 through 9. No Q or Z.

But either way... if that's a rotary interface for the iPhone, shouldn't the letters match the iPhone which uses the modern layout of ABC DEF GHI JKL MNO PQRS TUV WXYZ, you know, so you can use it without having to guess at the letters? :lol:

Correct and correct.

Jack Olsen 2012-06-23 12:51 PM

Sorry to bump this thread up after years of inactivity. But I just got sent a link to it and wanted to say thanks for the kind words about my little shop.

The phone is a 1951 Western Electric 354 that I got on Ebay. It's never bee restored -- they built those things like tanks. The odd part was plugging it in, dialing, and seeing my cell phone light up and ring. (Imagine trying to connect to the network with your current cell phone 6 years from now, let alone 60.)

Since the thread about the garage on Garage Journal got so long, I decided to make a website for the garage where people could get information on it more concisely. There's a bench-by-bench tour and a lot more photographs. The site is at:

http://www.12-gaugegarage.com

Here are some more pictures:

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4681/img0543zm.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3986/img0440nzs.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2667/img0467ah.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2066/img0434cp.jpg

Benches fold down from the wall:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9287/img0324yt.jpg

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8748/img0426i.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7200/img0550m.jpg

It looks nice cleaned up, but it's a working garage:

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/1904/humpty.jpg

Kevin M 2012-06-23 03:31 PM

That last pic only adds to the awesomeness.

rory_a 2012-06-23 10:11 PM

Good god that's amazing.

I have a 36x24 that I'll be moving into in the next few months, need to figure out how to fit a boat, snowmobiles, tools and workspace for a resto. But really though, the colors, budget of 4k, and the gorgeous RSR replica make this so amazing.

sperry 2012-06-24 08:40 PM

Wow. Thanks for joining the board to share some more pictures Jack!

How'd you get that lift flush with the floor? Concrete cutting and excavating?

And I love the little details like mounting overhead lights that are suspended under the rollup of the garage door. Brilliant!

MPREZIV 2012-06-25 07:08 AM

SO awesome... Excellent work sir!

Jack Olsen 2012-06-25 08:36 AM

Thanks, guys.

sperry, I dug out a hole for the lift so it would be flush. It was kind of scary -- I'd never poured concrete before, wasn't 100% sure this was the right use for this kind of lift table, and the first step was going to be to cut a 5'x5' hole in my nice garage floor. I rented a walk-behind concrete-cutting saw and dug a 16" deep pit. Now that it's done, there's an 8" thick reinforced pad underneath the lift. The walls for the pit that are tied in to the surrounding pad with rebar. I had to bring the concrete sacks home in two loads to avoid destroying my Jeep's suspension. The mixing and pouring took an afternoon. Finding out that it was the right depth (and seeing the lift go up for the first time) was pretty satisfying. When you get concrete wrong, it's a real pain to tear out and do again.

Just getting the thing home was an adventure. Since I'm frugal, I rented a truck from Home Depot -- $20 for 90 minutes. Getting the thing down by myself was tense. The lift table itself weighs 950 pounds.

http://12-gaugegarage.com/resources/AsItArrived-H.jpg

This video shows some pictures from the installation. You just have to weight through a minute or so of cheesy 'presentation.' :)


Here's a clearer look at the whole deal. You can see it's shimmed up to get to the right level. Better to go a little too deep than to not go deep enough and have it never be flush.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5937/liftup.jpg

It also works as a work surface. It's also useful for getting heavy stuff into the back of the Jeep.

sperry 2012-06-25 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Olsen (Post 161681)
Thanks, guys.

sperry, I dug out a hole for the lift so it would be flush. It was kind of scary -- I'd never poured concrete before, wasn't 100% sure this was the right use for this kind of lift table, and the first step was going to be to cut a 5'x5' hole in my nice garage floor. I rented a walk-behind concrete-cutting saw and dug a 16" deep pit. Now that it's done, there's an 8" thick reinforced pad underneath the lift. The walls for the pit that are tied in to the surrounding pad with rebar. I had to bring the concrete sacks home in two loads to avoid destroying my Jeep's suspension. The mixing and pouring took an afternoon. Finding out that it was the right depth (and seeing the lift go up for the first time) was pretty satisfying. When you get concrete wrong, it's a real pain to tear out and do again.

Just getting the thing home was an adventure. Since I'm frugal, I rented a truck from Home Depot -- $20 for 90 minutes. Getting the thing down by myself was tense. The lift table itself weighs 950 pounds.

http://12-gaugegarage.com/resources/AsItArrived-H.jpg

This video shows some pictures from the installation. You just have to weight through a minute or so of cheesy 'presentation.' :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Mnl...layer_embedded

Here's a clearer look at the whole deal. You can see it's shimmed up to get to the right level. Better to go a little too deep than to not go deep enough and have it never be flush.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5937/liftup.jpg

It also works as a work surface. It's also useful for getting heavy stuff into the back of the Jeep.

That is an impressive amount of effort. Looks like it's worth it... I take it that you have no plans of moving anytime soon, eh? :lol:

I'm definitely inspired... I've got a 3 car garage I'd love to convert to a partial shop, but I've also got 3 cars to park in there, so even with more actual space, I have less to work with. Plus, I don't plan to be in this home forever, so it feels like some wasted effort to try to do something this nice now.

Did you ever consider a self-leveling concrete layer over the entire floor before going with the tile? I'm just amazed that you've had such great luck with the tile... I've got tile in my kitchen that's cracked, and I'm not even parking a car or using heavy tools in there!

Jack Olsen 2012-06-25 12:37 PM

I've got no plans to move. And I'm crossing my fingers that my wife will continue to feel the same way. It'd be pretty daunting to do all of this work over again.

On the tile, the biggest factor is how the stuff is installed. For home interiors, speed is the biggest factor, so you get a series of dabs of adhesive, basically. This leaves a lot of empty space under the tiles, and this will put them in tension (as opposed to compression), and they'll be more vulnerable to cracks. Inside a house, this usually isn't a huge deal.

Interior installations are often done over joists, which introduces more opportunities for trouble.

In an industrial or commercial setting -- or a garage -- you're installing over concrete, and you 'double butter' the thinset, which means it's uniformly distributed on both the concrete slab and the underside of the tile. Without gaps in the adhesive, you get this kind of strength.


(Note: these are the cheapest floor tiles I was able to find at the Home Depot. And that's a 4-lb sledge hammer.)

ScottyS 2012-06-30 06:37 PM

Wow, major kudos for doing all that yourself. That post-build floor lift mod is awesome.

Jack Olsen 2012-06-30 07:19 PM

Thanks. Everything in this shop is post-build, since the pad was poured in 1925. :)

I got a better video camera, so here's a clearer picture of the lift in use -- although you've got to put up with some over-the-top music while you see it. (But cut me some slack, there was a lot of work involved in putting the thing in, so I was pretty happy when I got to see it work.) I suggest full screen and 720p.


AtomicLabMonkey 2012-06-30 08:24 PM

:lol: The music cracked me up.

Nice work Jack, to put it mildly.

The green seems appropriate since there are a whole lot of people envious of that shop.


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