WTB: 04 wrx headlight Passenger side
 

If you got one then let me know.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2211206

A pair on NASIOC for $100 plus shipping, seems like a good deal.

Awesome. I will email him now. Thanks!

I was too slow.

Found one and paypal was sent. Hopefully I get it this next week. I always worry when someone has one last name on their email and then the last name on their paypal is different. We will see:~:

So I got hosed. The light came and all the tabs are broken off. I specifically asked about the condition of the tabs and he said everything looked good. I just emailed him after getting the package and I told him of the tabs. He replied and said "I guess you should file a claim with the shipping company as everything was fine when I sent it."

At least I used paypal so that if he doesn't work with me I can at least file some sort of claim.

Except the shipper has to file the claim. Your problem is not with UPS (or whoever), it's with him. Tell him you want your money back and it's up to him if he wants to get refunded from the carrier.

Then plaster his scammer ass name all over NASIOC for being a douche.

Yeah, I have no intention of filing a claim with FedEx for something that we both know they didn't do. I'm trying to be chill about it right now but he might make that difficult. I sent him with an email with pictures(not that he needs them) and requesting a refund. If not I will file with paypal.

Were the tabs in the box like they actually broke off during shipping?

When that doesn't work, let me know. I enjoy talking shit on NASIOC.

And whether or not the lights were "fine" before he sent them, as the seller he's responsible for getting them to you in the described condition. Even it FedEx broke them, he's required to make it right since he's got your money... FedEx didn't break your light, they broke *his* light. It's not yours because the transaction was never completed as per your agreement.

If they're not, that dude is the dumbest scammer alive. :lol:

Finding somebody that actually knows how to pack an item for shipping is pretty hard these days.

Bummer, good luck. Was it someone with a lot of posts on nasioc?

I know a guy.

So an update.

This was by far the worst package I have ever gotten in the mail. First, the cardboard box was very sickly. You could tell it had been out in the weather for some time. I could have literally stuck my hand directly into it Temple of Doom style. Then I opened it up and was punched in the face with the smell of cat piss. Its the first time I had to open a package outside of my house. At least he happened to throw in a grip of oily bubble wrap. :rolleyes:

So of course the first thing I notice is the tabs are broken. They didn't look like fresh breaks but I still looked in the bottom of the box for pieces. There were none. So that's when I emailed him and he said "oh it must be FedEx". So then of course I tell him he needs to refund my money. Now he comes back and says " oh yeah, that's my brothers PayPal and I'm probably not gonna see him until Saturday since we work different shifts."

:|

So I filed a claim with PayPal and told him he has 24hrs to talk to his "brother" and refund my money. I then read on many forums that PayPal will probably screw me anyways and let him get away with it. So tomorrow I will probably just call VISA and have them fix it.

You: Hey PayPal, this guy totally screw me out of the money I sent him using your service, which I like to use for the consumer protections it offers in cases like this. I bought a used item from the guy, and the item he sent me was broken despite my specific inquiry into its condition and his statements that it was in good working condition.

PayPal: We'll get back to you when we hear from the seller.

Seller: That shit was fine when I sent it out, yo.

PayPal: We are sorry, but we cannot refund your money. The seller says he sent you good shit.

You: :unamused:

I don't know, every time I've filed a PP dispute because something was damaged they have decided in my favor. I think you have a pretty good chance of winning since the broken pieces are not in the box.

Me too (myself!) :lol:

Seriously though, probably 75% of the packages I get from private sellers are inadequately packed. Like when you buy a $200 stereo and the seller just drops it in a flat rate box with nothing to protect it. Sometimes I get lucky and the item makes it despite the piss poor packaging.

How long did you wait until you elevated the dispute to a claim?

Well, in your case I would do it after 24 hours like you said. The dude already sounds like he isn't giving your money back willingly. If the seller doesn't respond at all I wait a couple of days max.

Sounds like it was intentionally packed like crap specifically so he could blame FedEx. What a shady dickhole.

Douche needs to be black listed on nasioc and locked out of his paypal. As soon as you have your money back, you should send this thread to the nasioc mods. They don't take kindly to scammers like this.

It's been about ten years since I was screwed similarly (~8 years) but when neither eBay nor Paypal would do the right thing, my credit card company had no problem reversing the charges for me. Paypal, in turn, must have taken the money back from the shipper because he immediately contacted me and requested that I return the speakers (the issue was that the tweeters were missing). I informed him that I would be happy to if he would simply send a call-tag (so he pays for and arranges shipping) which he promptly did.

I had an issue with a gear i bought from someone on nasioc (jay storms) gear was the wrong ratio and he kept telling me he was looking through his garage. (i think he was) but as time passed he stopped being responsive to Pms on nasioc. i tried to start a dispute with pay pal but i was past the cut off time. think i did a direct bank transfer for pay pal so i didn't have the visa charge back (nuclear option) on the table.

but i ended up E-thuging him on nasioc (posting in all of his current threads, asking about a refund, or at least to be contacted) and he actually refunded my money .

I felt a bit bad, but i was going weeks with out any response , when you can clearly see him logging in and posting every day, figured he was trying to ignore me until i went away. but $115 for the wrong gear is lame.

i still need to mail him back the gear but he was pretty pissed and didn't care either way, and i have to get the gear from toms...

anywho , you're dead on filing a dispute 24 hours later!

Wait, you intentionally e-thugged the dude into refunding your money and then didn't send back the item immediately?

That's worse than sending the incorrect part in the first place! WTF man? :huh:

Haha, I saw that in his ESP thread.

Payback's a bitch.

Payback for what? Accidentally sending the wrong gear ratio to someone who doesn't notify you about it for over 45 days?

What if you sold someone something, then months later after the transactions been complete they start chasing you around the internet looking for a refund telling you that the part they've had for a long time is the wrong part? Would you believe them?

Frankly, if I were to sell something and they didn't contact me at most a day or two after receiving it that it's the wrong part, I'd tell them to pound sand. Granted, I wouldn't try to sell something to someone without being very explicit about what I'm selling (for example, I'd definitely be sure of the ratio on a set of gears or whatever), but if the buyer perhaps didn't know what they were buying they better get in touch with me immediately to return the part and get a refund. After a few days, it's their own damn fault for buying the wrong part.

No, payback for becoming unresponsive after promising to resend the correct part (admitting fault). Sending the incorrect part, initially, sounds like it could be an honest mistake. Saying you'll have to look in your garage for the correct part and then becoming unresponsive = understandable aggravation.

...also, note the bold part before you make Alex out to be such a bad person for not sending back the gear immediately.

Neither of those things absolve Alex from his responsibility to follow through with promptly sending back the item he was refunded for. Two wrongs don't make a right, etc.

If Alex is going to harangue the guy then not send back the item, not only is he just as bad as the seller for the delay itself, he's also a hypocrite for making a stink about it.

Granted, I don't really know the details of how this went down, but from what I've heard so far, I wouldn't do business with either Alex or the other dude. :lol:

When somebody says, "Payback's a bitch", they generally are indicating that two wrongs DO make a right in that instance (RE: retribution).

While I agree that it's "wrong" for Alex to not send back the gear promptly if the guy asked nicely for him to do so, I can only go by what Alex wrote, which is that the guy was pissed [about getting e-thugged into submission] and doesn't even care about getting the stupid gear back. :lol:

I am sure you may have already seen it, but there is a set on the reno craigslist right now...

http://reno.craigslist.org/pts/2512265990.html

"Call or text Alex" :lol:

:lol: That was part of the reason I posted it.

Alex wants a headlight now too!?

Long story short, he told me i didn't have to send him the gears back, but i could if i wanted to.


Short story long:
I contacted him and told him i was only interested if it was a .825 5th gear. i have multiple .780 5th gears and didn't need a 3rd back up. he assured me it was the .825 , that he also found that cool gear and put it together.

confusing bit , "for my autocross build" .. which made me think "better 5th gear, for AutoX?"

but anywho i went ahead, felt i over paid, but it was a hard gear to find.
part shows up i deliver it to tom, who then tells me "looks exactly like your last gear" i took a picture and sent it the seller Jay. he followed up with "oops sorry , but lmk if you are Certain its wrong, but i'll check my garage"
over the next .. 90 days + (because i was out of the pay pal dispute, and visa charge back window) we PM back and forth . basically him saying he will look, and after a few weeks i Pmed him for a status update. i wasn't in too much of a hurry because the rally season hadn't started.


But as time went on, he was taking longer and longer to respond.

1 week with out reply
2 weeks with out reply
3 weeks with out reply, click on his "posts made by this user" and you see he has posted every day, during the 3 weeks with no reply to me, so i sent him an other PM (maybe he missed it) nothing, sent 1 more, nothing

OK he's knowingly or unknowingly strung me along during the entire 90 day charge back period, then shortly after wont' reply for multiple weeks.

so then i went into E-thug mode. WTF do i have to lose? internet reputation on nasioc? what do i have to gain? the correct 5th gear, or a full refund?

So i did it. I felt bad, but fully justified. you may not agree, but i don't really give a shit. :) I made every possible effort to let him correct the issue. he did not sell me what was advertised.

and i do plan on sending him back the correct 5th gear, i just haven't been back over to Toms many times since the refund , and so i' get around to it. i figure he strung me along almost 4 months. if he waits 2 months to get the gear back (after saying he's okay with me keeping it) I don't see an issue with that.

first contact was january, i told him it was the wrong gear early march. After my first initial telling him the gear was wrong, several months went by .. :( lol oh wellz

:lol: that is pretty funny... not me , i'm 05 STI ... :P but i do have an extra head light of my own i could sell... but meh .. i'll just hold on to it

I didn't really have the problem with the e-thugging so much as the not-sending-the-gear-back-right-after-the-refund part. If you're going to have to harp on someone to get them to square up with you, you shouldn't also be a slacker when it comes to sending the part back. That's all.

The long-version doesn't sound nearly so bad... but you were lucky the guy would even talk to you in March. If I sold something in Jan, and Feb rolls around... that buyer owns the part. :lol:

I got a partial refund because I didn't feel like screwing him on the money he paid for shipping. Turns out that the kid is not really a scammer but more of a bonehead who doesn't care about accuracy or truth in his listings. I ended up using the headlight and its totally fine.