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doubleurx 2012-08-21 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR (Post 161961)
Sweet!!!!!!!!!! Way to go Nick, should be a good occasion to have a get together. Maybe we can go drag-race some semis on I80 :lol: like the good old days

Definitely, as long as we can do it in a construction zone, I'm good!

sperry 2012-08-22 04:32 PM

I'll bring the arm-length burritos.

MattR 2012-08-22 05:53 PM

Legendary!

doubleurx 2012-08-22 07:01 PM

Mmm,! Burritos!

sybir 2012-08-22 09:44 PM

Welcome back to the fray, Nick! Let me know when you need wheels :lol:

rory_a 2012-08-22 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 161947)
Now, if aftermarket reflashes are able to use the si drive knob to actually switch full boost/timing/fuel maps, that would be awesome, but I'm pretty sure all you can do is remap the throttle pedal curve.

From what I've read, that's the case. You can set three different maps. Basically a clean Cobb AP. If not, it's a worthless contraption :(

rory_a 2012-08-22 10:09 PM

Congrats! I'm jelly. I'd want a plasma blue or satin white.

doubleurx 2012-08-23 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sybir (Post 161972)
Welcome back to the fray, Nick! Let me know when you need wheels :lol:

Thanks Aaron,

Oddly enough, my first thing I'll need to buy are some snow tires! Skipping the whole performance snows this time and getting the real snow tires (Blizzack WS70). Maybe that will bring us a real winter!

doubleurx 2012-08-23 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rory_a (Post 161974)
Congrats! I'm jelly. I'd want a plasma blue or satin white.

Thanks, those were my favorite as well.

k-dogg39 2012-08-23 07:30 AM

Congrats I like those colors as well.

sperry 2012-08-24 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx (Post 161979)
Thanks Aaron,

Oddly enough, my first thing I'll need to buy are some snow tires! Skipping the whole performance snows this time and getting the real snow tires (Blizzack WS70). Maybe that will bring us a real winter!

I've got a set of ws70s on my outback. I'm less than impressed... awesome in the snow, but uninspiring in the dry. Granted, down in Reno we have much less snow, but I'd much rather have a set of wintersports or something a little more high performance in the dry.

Actually... of you're interested in my ws70s I would probably sell them and get some wintersports... 245 or 235 17's (id have to check) thought they might be a little tall for an sti because they're for an outback, but they would give the sti a little more ground clearance of they dont rub.

doubleurx 2012-08-24 08:06 AM

Thanks for the offer Scott, but I'll be running them on the stock wheels (18's). I know they are mushy in the dry as the tread blocks are really soft. They are remarkable in the snow and morning ice up here though. On the 335xi I had them and they were really capable. I have LM60's on the Turbo, which are good in snow, but awful on hardpack snow and ice. I had a couple of interesting sideways moments on the way to work last year. No snow donkeys to blame, just me. Literally was coming around a corner where a friend was at a stop sign. He called me later, saying..."nice drifting". Little did he know I nearly had a load in my pants, and little to no control over the car.

doubleurx 2012-10-12 05:39 PM

Flying out tomorrow to pick it up! I'll post pics when I get back. I'm giving a presentation at the Sketchup conference in Boulder, then drive back. A little nervous about the presentation, but pretty stoked about the STI!

MattR 2012-10-13 06:13 AM

Congrats, sounds like a nice drive too. Looking forward to some pictures..

knucklesplitter 2012-10-15 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 161947)
si Drive is pretty useless. All it does is remap the drive by wire throttle, so on lower settings, it's literally the same as just not pressing the throttle as far down. That's it. In fact, on my OBXT, putting it in "intelligent" mode results in the worst gas mileage.

Now, if aftermarket reflashes are able to use the si drive knob to actually switch full boost/timing/fuel maps, that would be awesome, but I'm pretty sure all you can do is remap the throttle pedal curve. As such, I'd be happier with another cup holder or the bigger seat heater buttons than si drive. At the least, they could have made it a 3way switch on the steering wheel instead of taking up the center console with a big knob.

There are SI Drive tables for boost target and throttle mapping. Timing and fuel have "cruise" and "non-cruise" tables but these are not selected by the SI Drive.

sperry 2012-10-15 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 162389)
There are SI Drive tables for boost target and throttle mapping. Timing and fuel have "cruise" and "non-cruise" tables but these are not selected by the SI Drive.

I guess boost target is kinda useful. Just put a 1:1 throttle map on all 3 SI Drive settings, then have like a 12 psi low map, 16 psi standard map, and an 18 psi scramble map.

Actually... would that work? Or is "I" mode different. It's supposed to be adaptive according to the marketing literature from Subaru, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.

knucklesplitter 2012-10-15 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI (Post 161942)
sorry i was talking about the 2014 WRX/STI which won't be an impreza... ya the 2013 will be teh 2012 with 1 digit different in the VIN and most likely nothing else changed.

Latest "buzz" is that the 2014 WRX will get a turbo version of the direct-injection 2.0L that now comes in the BRZ, etc. And the '14 STI may be late in the model year (if at all) and who knows what it will be? There is definite talk of separating the WRX (and STI) from the Impreza linup.

knucklesplitter 2012-10-15 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry (Post 162390)
I guess boost target is kinda useful. Just put a 1:1 throttle map on all 3 SI Drive settings, then have like a 12 psi low map, 16 psi standard map, and an 18 psi scramble map.

Actually... would that work? Or is "I" mode different. It's supposed to be adaptive according to the marketing literature from Subaru, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.

"I" mode is no more "adaptive" than the others, or than anything ever on the USDM WRX+, as far as I know.

If I were in charge at Subaru (ha!), this is what I would do:

"Teh Gas Mizerz" Mode:
- Some kind of low-flow air pump to keep wastegate open at all times and kill boost as much as possible (patent pending?)
- Closed/Open Loop transition table to keep it in closed loop for as long as safe.
- Fuel and timing tables to match.
- Some ghey-ass throttle mapping to satisfy gas-mileage standards even when driven by a C-average 17yo rich kid with a lead foot, a little dick, and/or a Napoleon complex (flat-brim hat not included).

"Intelligent" Mode:
- A 12psi target boost map that tapers off the turbo at higher RPM (to let it live longer).
- Closed/Open Loop transition tables to keep it in closed loop for as long as safe (at this boost mapping).
- Fuel and timing table tables to match.
- Cable-throttle-like throttle mapping.

"Sport" Mode:
- A 16psi target boost map that tapers off the turbo at higher RPM (to let it live longer).
- Closed/Open Loop transition tables to keep it in closed loop for as long as safe (at this boost mapping).
- Fuel and timing table tables to match.
- Cable-throttle-like throttle mapping.

"Tuner" Mode:
- A 20psi target boost map with minimal boost taper at higher RPM (and this turbo can handle it even here at 4500', albeit with reduced life...)
- Transition to open loop above 0psi.
- Fuel and timing table tables to match.
- Cable-throttle-like throttle mapping.
- Launch control and flat-foot shifting.
- Signed waver, worldwide registration, and warranty is null and void.

doubleurx 2012-10-21 09:16 AM

Here she is
 
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At 200 miles, I hit a ginormous tumbleweed in Colorado. With a few hours on the polisher, I got them all out. I thought for sure there would be a dent, given the noise. Instead it was about six 5 foot long scratches on the drivers side.

Very different from the '05. Feels more solid. Still in break in mode which will be over this week. No snow tires in hand though. Should have ordered them before I left!

doubleurx 2012-10-21 04:29 PM

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Another view

MattR 2012-10-21 05:37 PM

That is Hot, love that color. Great car man.

sybir 2012-10-24 09:58 AM

Nice!

I actually have a set of the TRmotorsport wheels like you have on the Turbo, in 18x8.5 ET48, 5x114, if you want to keep from killing the stockers in winter (they're actually very pretty).

Nick Koan 2012-10-24 10:05 AM

Looks beautiful man.

ScottyS 2012-10-24 02:07 PM

Mmmmm, wouldn't it be cool if the tails were smoked? Looks like a great ride though.

sperry 2012-10-24 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyS (Post 162435)
Mmmmm, wouldn't it be cool if the tails were smoked? Looks like a great ride though.

I'm still a fan of just the solid red overlays.

http://www.iagperformance.com/images...age_02_600.jpg


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