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sp00ln 2005-03-16 12:10 PM

The 'Ring in under 5 minutes.
 
Check it out:

http://www.tdotaquaria.ca/gt4-best14.wmv

MikeSTI 2005-03-16 12:21 PM

link broken :(

sperry 2005-03-16 01:34 PM

I've seen it... the guy is using an F1 car. It's not that impressive... he clearly doesn't know the ring, as he's just driving down the center of the road almost the whole way in a stupid fast car. Hell, I've doen the ring in 7 minutes in a 350hp 1200kg car in that game. The F1 car should do it in about 4 to 4:30 IMO.

Kevin M 2005-03-16 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I've seen it... the guy is using an F1 car. It's not that impressive... he clearly doesn't know the ring, as he's just driving down the center of the road almost the whole way in a stupid fast car. Hell, I've doen the ring in 7 minutes in a 350hp 1200kg car in that game. The F1 car should do it in about 4 to 4:30 IMO.

So go get in your F1 car (or borrow mine if you don't have it yet) and hook your PS2 up to a VCR. :p

sperry 2005-03-16 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I've seen it... the guy is using an F1 car. It's not that impressive... he clearly doesn't know the ring, as he's just driving down the center of the road almost the whole way in a stupid fast car. Hell, I've doen the ring in 7 minutes in a 350hp 1200kg car in that game. The F1 car should do it in about 4 to 4:30 IMO.

So go get in your F1 car (or borrow mine if you don't have it yet) and hook your PS2 up to a VCR. :p

I might be able to beat 5 min w/ the Audi R8 or something heavier than the F1 car. But I've been playing PC games now that I got my wheel and pedals all fixed...

Richard Burns Rally + F1 2002 + GTR + Grand Prix Legends > GT4

Kevin M 2005-03-16 02:35 PM

So far the 4rotor is my favorite car. Silly fast and not that hard to drive for something with so much power to weight. Oddly enough, I let the computer run a few laps of the 'ring in B-Spec... it can go around without incident set on 5 pace, but it only turns a 5:35. For some reason the computer doesn't like using your highest gear on long straights. :roll:

sperry 2005-03-16 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
So far the 4rotor is my favorite car. Silly fast and not that hard to drive for something with so much power to weight. Oddly enough, I let the computer run a few laps of the 'ring in B-Spec... it can go around without incident set on 5 pace, but it only turns a 5:35. For some reason the computer doesn't like using your highest gear on long straights. :roll:

B-Spec.... what's that? :p

Kevin M 2005-03-16 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
So far the 4rotor is my favorite car. Silly fast and not that hard to drive for something with so much power to weight. Oddly enough, I let the computer run a few laps of the 'ring in B-Spec... it can go around without incident set on 5 pace, but it only turns a 5:35. For some reason the computer doesn't like using your highest gear on long straights. :roll:

B-Spec.... what's that? :p

B-spec is proof that the smoothest driving is not always the fastest way around the track. :P I got around Infineon about 3 seconds faster than the computer in the F1 car.

sperry 2005-03-16 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
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Originally Posted by sperry
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
So far the 4rotor is my favorite car. Silly fast and not that hard to drive for something with so much power to weight. Oddly enough, I let the computer run a few laps of the 'ring in B-Spec... it can go around without incident set on 5 pace, but it only turns a 5:35. For some reason the computer doesn't like using your highest gear on long straights. :roll:

B-Spec.... what's that? :p

B-spec is proof that the smoothest driving is not always the fastest way around the track. :P I got around Infineon about 3 seconds faster than the computer in the F1 car.

And I'll bet that a person driving smoothly is faster than both you and the computer. :P

Dean 2005-03-16 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
B-spec is proof that the smoothest driving is not always the fastest way around the track. :P I got around Infineon about 3 seconds faster than the computer in the F1 car.

Whoever said that? Smooth is fast, but approriate early/late apexes will destroy a geometrically smooth lap. optimized slip angles are good also...

It would be interersting to watch it's laps at Sears. Does it throw away the exit of turn 3 to optimize 3a. Does it use every inch of the approriate berms, sometimes helping you rotate like turn 7. And does it almost drive accross the infield to maximize the exit of 11?

sperry 2005-03-16 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
B-spec is proof that the smoothest driving is not always the fastest way around the track. :P I got around Infineon about 3 seconds faster than the computer in the F1 car.

Whoever said that? Smooth is fast, but approriate early/late apexes will destroy a geometrically smooth lap. optimized slip angles are good also...

It would be interersting to watch it's laps at Sears. Does it throw away the exit of turn 3 to optimize 3a. Does it use every inch of the approriate berms, sometimes helping you rotate like turn 7. And does it almost drive accross the infield to maximize the exit of 11?

It drives along the pre-set line that every AI car attempts to follow like an Amtrack train. So, if they programmed that line into the game, that's how it drives... to a fault. For example, the AI exists a corner with a run on someone down a long straight... but instead of leaving the optimal line for the easy pass, it slows down to get back on line... or just rams into the side of your car if you happen to be the slower car. :roll:

sp00ln 2005-03-16 05:27 PM

Eh, sorry for the broken link guys. Anywho, I agree - Scott, lets see you do it. :p

Do you guys build cars yourself or do you just buy the pre-tuned cars? I built a ruf and ran a 1:20 at leguna. What do you guys normally get?

Nick Koan 2005-03-16 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sp00ln
Eh, sorry for the broken link guys. Anywho, I agree - Scott, lets see you do it. :p

Do you guys build cars yourself or do you just buy the pre-tuned cars? I built a ruf and ran a 1:20 at leguna. What do you guys normally get?

I think 1:21 was the best I got when I was doing the enduro. Can't remember what car it was in. I think the Merc. CLK-GTR Race Car or something similar.

I think Matt said he got a 1:17. Thats amazing.

Kevin M 2005-03-16 09:07 PM

I've been running Infineon the most out of the actual racetracks. I'm down to like 1:10 in the F1 car, 1:30 in both the M3 GTR and M5, and about 1:35 in my "realistic" STi coupe. I mostly run on R5s though, because frankly it's just more fun to me.

Kevin M 2005-03-16 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
B-spec is proof that the smoothest driving is not always the fastest way around the track. :P I got around Infineon about 3 seconds faster than the computer in the F1 car.

Whoever said that? Smooth is fast, but approriate early/late apexes will destroy a geometrically smooth lap. optimized slip angles are good also...

It would be interersting to watch it's laps at Sears. Does it throw away the exit of turn 3 to optimize 3a. Does it use every inch of the approriate berms, sometimes helping you rotate like turn 7. And does it almost drive accross the infield to maximize the exit of 11?

If I could remember turn numbers I'd tell you. :oops: I have turn progression memorized on most tracks, but I can never remember which corners are which. I can say that the computer makes healthy use of berms at a lot of tracks, but I don't think it's as specific as your turn 7 example.

I was mostly making fun of the AI like Scott explained. And actually, my fastest two laps both had a miraculous stupidly fast stretch before the straight where the pit entrance is. The computer "ghost" was about a second ahead, and somehow my best replay just blows by it with like a 25-30 mph differential in the esses and I kept it on the track. The other issue is that it's *really* damn hard to be smooth when you are using an analog "wheel" that has about 1/4" of movement and a brake and gas pedal that are basically on/off switches. I'm too cheap to drop money on a wheel setup so I just accept the controller handicap and drive like a madman and get things like F1 cars and 787Bs and whatever I happen to be driving sideways several times a lap. ;)

MattR 2005-03-17 02:31 PM

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