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sperry 2005-07-07 09:50 AM

Wheel Whores Unite!
 
Since 100deg weather + long trips + snow tires = no snow tires very quickly...





They're the MB Motorsports Weapons (aka A-Tech Erasors) from Discount Tire Direct. (17x8+42 5x114.3) The same wheels that JC and Dean have, just in SVX fitment and bronze instead of gunmetal.

The tires are Falken Azenis ST-115 in 255/40ZR17. Usually the minimum width for a 255 tire is 8.5", but these run pretty narrow, so they seem to fit just fine on the 8" wide rims. Plus, they're like $10/tire *cheaper* than the 245's. :lol: Total price for the rims, tires, valve stems, lugs, wheel locks, mounting, balancing, tax, and shipping: $1026. Not bad... reminds me of the good old days when you could get rotas with tires for under $1200.

So far the wheels/tires seem like a really good match for the car. There's no balance issues, and they seem to have plenty of clearance, so no rubbing. Because the suspension and bushings on the SVX are so worn out, there are some wierd issues with the tires following the road... the car will sort of move left and right w/o any feedback in the steering. I noticed the same thing when I had the EVO rims on the car for a weekend. Also, I think the lower profile tires are bouncing the rims around a bit on rough road since the suspension isn't stiff enough... also something I've noticed before, but that was when I had 18's on the WRX's stock suspension. But both issues are really minor compared to the much better looks and handling of the car.

Now I just need to get the car lowered and it'll look sweet!

More pics here.

Nick Koan 2005-07-07 10:05 AM

Looking good man, looking good.

sybir 2005-07-07 10:23 AM

That looks dope, dude :)
Good work.

MikeK 2005-07-07 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Now I just need to get the car lowered and it'll look sweet!

Before or after the wrx drivetrain swap? :P

sperry 2005-07-07 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK
Before or after the wrx drivetrain swap? :P

Suspension, exhaust and transmission should all go in at the same time... I just need to finish the motor swap on the WRX, then pay off the credit card first. :(

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-07-07 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Because the suspension and bushings on the SVX are so worn out, there are some wierd issues with the tires following the road... the car will sort of move left and right w/o any feedback in the steering. I noticed the same thing when I had the EVO rims on the car for a weekend.

Is that wheel offset different than the stock wheel?

sperry 2005-07-07 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
Is that wheel offset different than the stock wheel?

Stock SVX wheels are 16x7.5+55. EVO wheels are 17x8+38. The new ones are 17x8+42, so that pulls the outter lip of the new rims .4cm away from the fender compared to the EVO rims rubbed just the tinyest bit, so the MB's seem just right.

AtomicLabMonkey 2005-07-07 10:55 AM

The rut/bump wandering you're describing can be a side effect of changing wheel offset. Since the front-view tire CL has moved over 1/2" from the stock setup, the scrub radius has changed by that same amount - so the feedback & self-centering characteristics of the steering system has been changed.

sperry 2005-07-07 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey
The rut/bump wandering you're describing can be a side effect of changing wheel offset. Since the front-view tire CL has moved over 1/2" from the stock setup, the scrub radius has changed by that same amount - so the feedback & self-centering characteristics of the steering system has been changed.

The car wanders, but there is *zero* feedback in the wheel... it's like the wheels are following the road, but there's so much slop in the bushings that the car stays straight until the bushings load up enough to move the car just a tiny bit.

Also, it doesn't feel like it's wandering because the front tires are turing, it feels more like the entire car moves latterally about a quarter inch or so.

But yes, the offset is significantly different and has pushed the centerline of the tire away from the stock location. We'll see how the rear bearings do. :lol:

bruspeed 2005-07-07 11:06 AM

Excellent choice man!! I love bronze. :D

sonicsuby 2005-07-07 05:55 PM

I hate when you post pics in your driveway. At first glance, that looks exactly like my neighborhood :lol:

Wheels look good :D

JC 2005-07-07 06:07 PM

Honestly, I dunno if I like them. Maybe I will when I see them in person, but I think the SVX needs a stronger looking wheel with thicker spokes. The color looks hot though. Your SVX has come a long way.

ShawnS 2005-07-07 08:11 PM

Like I said last night, they look good.



PS- I went through the gallery and noticed you only censored your plates in one image, not the rest.:?:

sperry 2005-07-07 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnS
Like I said last night, they look good.



PS- I went through the gallery and noticed you only censored your plates in one image, not the rest.:?:

I only sensored the plates on the pic I was posting on another site.

sybir 2005-07-07 10:32 PM

Since we're supposed to be uniting......

http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DSCF1293.JPG
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DSCF1301.JPG

sperry 2005-07-07 11:18 PM

Wagon on 18's bitch! Nice.

sybir 2005-07-08 08:50 AM

I figured I had to take on all the specs of the original LagnWagn, so P1's work :D

sperry 2005-07-08 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sybir
I figured I had to take on all the specs of the original LagnWagn, so P1's work :D

Well, it's on P1's, it's an automatic, it's slow... all you need is a ricey front lip and white paint!

(IBMattRemindsMeHeBeatMeAtOneAutocrossInThatWagon)

Dean 2005-07-10 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
The car wanders, but there is *zero* feedback in the wheel... it's like the wheels are following the road, but there's so much slop in the bushings that the car stays straight until the bushings load up enough to move the car just a tiny bit.

Also, it doesn't feel like it's wandering because the front tires are turing, it feels more like the entire car moves latterally about a quarter inch or so.

But yes, the offset is significantly different and has pushed the centerline of the tire away from the stock location. We'll see how the rear bearings do. :lol:

Sticky wider tires with stiffer sidewalls are also a contributor. Want a nice smooth ride with no wander, get the crapiest M&S 175s you can, and they will fell great until you turn, brake, etc...

P.S. Nice wheels..... Copycat...

sperry 2005-07-10 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Copycat...

Says the guy that bought them *second*... not to mention the fact that they're *replicas* to begin with. :lol:

Dean 2005-07-10 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
Says the guy that bought them *second*... not to mention the fact that they're *replicas* to begin with. :lol:

Huh? Who had them before me? Not JC... Who else has them?
Me 10/2004
JC 2/2005

sperry 2005-07-10 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Huh? Who had them before me? Not JC... Who else has them?
Me 10/2004
JC 2/2005

I thought JC got his first since I saw them on his car before yours.

Either way, they're still rip-off's of Matt's Gram Lights (as well as several other similar wheels):

http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/emenu/da...80_57S/big.jpg

Dean 2005-07-10 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
I thought JC got his first since I saw them on his car before yours.

Either way, they're still rip-off's of Matt's Gram Lights (as well as several other similar wheels):

Oh yeah, well, the gram Lights are cleary rip offs of Egyptian chariot wheels , so there... :P
http://anchorstone.com/images/wheels1.jpg

MattR 2005-07-10 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean
Oh yeah, well, the gram Lights are cleary rip offs of Egyptian chariot wheels , so there... :P
http://anchorstone.com/images/wheels1.jpg


OMFG!!!!!!!! Hahahhaahhahaahaha! Best comeback of all time....I just died laughing....

Anyway, wheels are looking good everybody...

MattR 2005-07-10 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry
(IBMattRemindsMeHeBeatMeAtOneAutocrossInThatWagon)


haha, missed that the first time...consider yourself reminded.


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