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GusGus91 2011-04-06 09:20 AM

Shaky Steering wheel?
 
So I got the new wheels and tires on the other day and noticed 60mph and above the steering wheel get's shaky. Well I just the wheels rebalanced thinking that was the problem, and it's still slightly shaky.. Any ideas of what it could be besides being off balance?

austin

A1337STI 2011-04-06 09:56 AM

Could still be an out of balance wheel. I've had a buddy who got new tires and rims, but they were not balanced right. he went back and it got better, but still an issue, he went back again and found out that garage had found an issue with their tire balance, rebalanced him and the 3rd time was the charm.

I've also had wobbles due to , wheel bearing, steering rack, inner and or outer tie rods, and they have all felt like an out of balance wheel (more or less) i've also had a wheel that was falling off and it felt out of balance too .. =\ meh

GusGus91 2011-04-06 10:07 AM

When I took it back he said he re calibrated the machine.. it's a bit better. but still shaky. It didn't do it til i put these wheels on. I guess it's all a guessing game now..

knucklesplitter 2011-04-06 10:10 AM

Poor-quality/defective tire.

Wheel run-out or warped or bent.

GusGus91 2011-04-06 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 155848)
Poor-quality/defective tire.

Wheel run-out or warped or bent.

He says the wheel and tire weren't out of round.. I guess i have some searching to do.

GusGus91 2011-04-06 10:25 AM

Also possible that I could have forgot to put 1 of the hubcentric rings in.. Just thought of that.

knucklesplitter 2011-04-06 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GusGus91 (Post 155850)
He says the wheel and tire weren't out of round.. I guess i have some searching to do.

A tire can be perfectly round and still cause shake and/or other issues. I spent 12 years at Michelin and a big part of my job was was improving tire uniformity.

Try changing the wheels front to back and see if it changes or stays the same.

GusGus91 2011-04-06 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 155852)
A tire can be perfectly round and still cause shake and/or other issues. I spent 12 years at Michelin and a big part of my job was was improving tire uniformity.

Try changing the wheels front to back and see if it changes or stays the same.

Ok thanks matt. I'll try that.

A1337STI 2011-04-06 03:38 PM

Or try putting someone else;s set of tires on your car and see if you still get shaking / vibrations.

the front to back is a lot easier though. :)

GusGus91 2011-04-06 05:12 PM

Well it wasn't happening the day before I put the new ones on.. But I'll try the front to back first.

I took a spirited run up Geiger this afternoon, and after that the shake seemed slightly less worse.. Idk how that works out though.

khail19 2011-04-06 07:46 PM

Sometimes a tire needs to be unmounted, rotated on the wheel and remounted. Like Matt said, even if a tire is perfectly round it might still be slightly heavier in spots. If your shop doesn't have a road force balancer, you might try finding one who does.

A1337STI 2011-04-07 08:25 AM

Could also be built up dirt,mud, and or debris I know after rally crosses (esp if there's any mud) I'll get some really bad shaking. Probably not your situation but a quick peek won't hurt any

sperry 2011-04-07 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1337STI (Post 155869)
Could also be built up dirt,mud, and or debris I know after rally crosses (esp if there's any mud) I'll get some really bad shaking. Probably not your situation but a quick peek won't hurt any

You'd hope that even the most retarded shop tech wouldn't try to balance, then rebalance a mud coated wheel.

A1337STI 2011-04-07 09:43 AM

good point. though if its just one tiny block of mud stuck , they might miss it. my winter rims hide mud behind the spokes really good, even after $2 at a self spray , with all the time spent on rims i've missed a lump or two..

GusGus91 2011-04-07 09:54 PM

It was for sure not mud. the wheels barely had any brake dust on them. I had just put them on. Brand new Wheels, Brand new tires.

When I get back in the country I'll have to figure it out...

AtomicLabMonkey 2011-04-11 05:11 PM

Maybe your steering wheel fluid is low.

sperry 2011-04-11 07:45 PM

Actually, a common problem with the svx is a bad o-ring between the power steering reservoir and pump. The pump ends up sucking air and causes vibration in the steering. But that only shakes when turning, and it's not very speed sensitive.

GusGus91 2011-04-11 09:26 PM

So i put the other set of wheels and tires on that I have, and the problem was gone.. so I think it's the wheels. Another guy on nasioc PM'd me and said he's having the same problems with his DPT's.

sybir 2011-04-11 10:29 PM

FWIW, I never had problems with DPT's, thought I was running a "correct fitment" set as opposed to herrafrush.

Rotate back to front one side at a time (I hope you labelled when you pulled them off or this could take a while, lol) and see if it changes, that will tell you more.

GusGus91 2011-04-11 10:34 PM

My wheels aren't "herra frush". they're barely even flush with the car. But everybody likes things differently on their car..
Anyways, The other guy that's having this problem too has 18x8.5. So I dont know if it has to do with them being a "uncorrect fitment". But yea I did label them. haha i didnt wanna have to keep switching them.

sybir 2011-04-12 11:15 AM

Oh, I wasn't talking shit :lol: Just saying I had no issues with a 17x8 with a 245, so wasn't sure if there was something with a scrub radius change from a lower offset wheel, etc.

GusGus91 2011-04-12 07:27 PM

oh ok. lol

No there is no clearance problems, and I dont have to run stupid amounts of camber that are gonna wear the tires out. It's reasonable alignment, and no rubbing issues. Cory just rolled the fenders and that's all that had to be done.

A1337STI 2011-04-13 08:34 AM

Is it possible to get a tire taken off, and have the wheel guy do a test balance on the rim with no tire just to see how far its off , or maybe there's just 1 that's way off ? if so i would hope the manufacturer will replace it (and maybe kick you some money for tire mounts / dismounts)

? wishful thinking ?

GusGus91 2011-04-13 08:13 PM

Yea I could have him do it. I'll try that when i get back in the country. Im just gathering ideas now.

100_Percent_Juice 2011-04-14 12:28 AM

Why are you being such a pussy? Just deal with it.


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