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sperry · 2007-08-07, 01:13 PM

Your failure to understand what I've posted like 5 times now makes me believe you have a deficiency to understand. I'm not going to keep repeating myself, here it is for the last time:

If a SSS judges the event to be unsafe, he has the duty to request changes from the event staff to make the event safe, if those changes aren't made, the SSS's responsibility is to cancel the event. Whether or not someone is within the cones doesn't have anything to do (rule-wise) with whether or not the SSS determines level of safety. It's a pure judgment call. If you disagree w/ the SSS's decision, file a protest.

If you really believe that a SSS shouldn't take steps when faced with unsafe behavior because you don't see explicit text in the rulebook, you should turn in your Stewardship. The existing rules give the SSS plenty of leeway in determining what's "unsafe" and plenty of authority to have the problem corrected or else the event's over.

With the specific case of the "rogue drifter"... as you say the course must be safe for all competitors, so if you've got one competitor that's not safe because he chooses to drive "differently" enough that the course must be changed to accommodate him, then the event is flawed and should be canned unless that competitor is removed or no longer drives improperly, or the course is actually changed such that sliding around under limited control is still safe.

Nowhere am I contending that a SSS gets to make a call about whether or not he "likes how a competitor is driving", the call is about whether or not the driver and course workers are safe. If Petter Solberg shows up in a WRC rally car and drifts the course, I wouldn't have a problem with it, since I would assume he'd be in control. But if Tooly McDrifterson, age 17, in a busted-ass 240sx with Fast-N-Furious decals all over the thing shows up and starts e-braking into every corner, I'll probably say something about it even if he's within the course. Plainly and simply, as a SSS I have the right to make a judgment call about the potential for disaster, and I'm responsible for acting in a manner to prevent unsafe situations.

2007-08-07, 01:13 PM	#47
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Your failure to understand what I've posted like 5 times now makes me believe you have a deficiency to understand. I'm not going to keep repeating myself, here it is for the last time: If a SSS judges the event to be unsafe, he has the duty to request changes from the event staff to make the event safe, if those changes aren't made, the SSS's responsibility is to cancel the event. Whether or not someone is within the cones doesn't have anything to do (rule-wise) with whether or not the SSS determines level of safety. It's a pure judgment call. If you disagree w/ the SSS's decision, file a protest. If you really believe that a SSS shouldn't take steps when faced with unsafe behavior because you don't see explicit text in the rulebook, you should turn in your Stewardship. The existing rules give the SSS plenty of leeway in determining what's "unsafe" and plenty of authority to have the problem corrected or else the event's over. With the specific case of the "rogue drifter"... as you say the course must be safe for all competitors, so if you've got one competitor that's not safe because he chooses to drive "differently" enough that the course must be changed to accommodate him, then the event is flawed and should be canned unless that competitor is removed or no longer drives improperly, or the course is actually changed such that sliding around under limited control is still safe. Nowhere am I contending that a SSS gets to make a call about whether or not he "likes how a competitor is driving", the call is about whether or not the driver and course workers are safe. If Petter Solberg shows up in a WRC rally car and drifts the course, I wouldn't have a problem with it, since I would assume he'd be in control. But if Tooly McDrifterson, age 17, in a busted-ass 240sx with Fast-N-Furious decals all over the thing shows up and starts e-braking into every corner, I'll probably say something about it even if he's within the course. Plainly and simply, as a SSS I have the right to make a judgment call about the potential for disaster, and I'm responsible for acting in a manner to prevent unsafe situations. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?