[Dean]

I don't think splitting hurts anything or anyone unless you value a piece of Lucite or other chachki handed out at the end of the season.

I still compared my times to Matt's, Ken's and Ray's in BSP as well as Mike's obviously, and I'm pretty sure at least Matt did likewise to Mike and I. I know at least the 3 Subaru drivers did so after almost every run. We would talk smack as well as talk about how we were driving the course, etc. which I think was a benefit to all of us. This rule change isn't going to change any of that, and that IMHO is the core of what is great about this club. In general we are more likely to help and encourage our fellow drivers than to hoard information and wish them ill.

Competitive people will find ways to compare themselves to others and we should encourage that by continuing to publish a T modified time in our results in addition to raw times for Street tire cars so those who choose to compare can do so easily and those who don't want to know can choose not to. Debbie ran RNP a bunch of times last year, Debbie, did you still compare your times to other's?

Heck, I know at least some of us compare our T raw times with R drivers in other classes and get a big kick when we are faster than them without the modifier.

There is no perfect T factor and there is no perfect inter class factor. I would like to see the PAX trophies dropped for the same reasons we split T & R. As somebody who has looked at the math, I know PAX is broken and unfair and does not really equalize anything and believe it causes as much gripping as the T factor if not more.

You know what would be interesting... making a points system similar to bowling handicapping. With each event, you get a new adjustment based on how you have done in the past. Major race series do this all the time by adding weight or changing intake sizes on winners and losers, we could do something similar only add or subtract time based on finishing position. you might actually get some interest in such a system not based on PAX.

Those types of systems usually reward consistency and slight improvement over time. Isn't that what we are looking for?