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Old 2008-01-21, 10:45 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice View Post
I don't understand. I said that every form of government fails at solving mans problems. Then you say that some countries get it right. Then I say "what do you mean". Then you talk about the horrible national debt of this country as if I am debating that.
I think his point was that most countries don't have anywhere near the same scale of national debt as the US has. So, they're "doing it right" with regards to debt management.

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Originally Posted by Dean
Why are you willing to pay more taxes? Why not stop spending billions on farm subsidies and countless other ridiculous and inefficient government programs?

Why do yo believe the democrats have a clue about the economy??? Hillary wants to raise your taxes and spend more money which doesn't help.
I said I'd be willing to pay more taxes if they were getting spent on fixing the economy. You might want to bother reading the whole sentence before replying: "I'd be willing to pay more taxes if they were being spent wisely and were being used to put our economy back in the green." i.e. a bump in my taxes that goes directly towards correcting the deficit would be fine if it were part of a well designed plan. I don't know anyone that's for tax increases in order to just throw away money.

And the Democrats are certainly more realistic about the world... they're not the ones in la-la land pretending that we can still win in Iraq, that the economy is strong, and that the environment isn't threatened. At least the democrats aren't touting tax breaks as a means to fix the economy. No matter how much spin you want to put on history, tax breaks and trickle down economics have *never* solved economic crisis. The last time we had a massive economic disaster, it took FDR's new deal, which was basically socialism.

Free market economies are great right up until monopolies start to take over. Then it takes a dash of socialism to set things back on a productive track. Same goes with government... and since the lobbyists and special interest groups have basically taken over both parties, we're basically living under a monopolized government. We need some smart people to come in and clean things up and make some potentially unpopular changes... Is there anyone like that in the race for '08? Probably not... but I'm certain none of the "more of the same" Republicans are going to do it, so I'm leaning Democrat... and since Hillary strikes me as a selfish twunt, and Edwards is a Mr. McSmiley say-anything-to-get-elected doofus, Obama's up front for me. It's a shame Ron Paul is never going to get his party's support, but then again with all his Libertarianism, he'd never be able to get anything done if he were President anyway.

So IMO, Obama + a Democrat Congress is our best hope at getting some changes made to help the country.
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