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Dean · 2008-10-07, 12:27 PM

I was very clear in my requests, and you have a strange definition of mutually exclusive. Suspension and power have nothing to do with interior comfort & convenience.

Are you claiming the 2007 Limited in Matt & Carrie's garage doesn't exist?

Are you also saying Subaru should not continue to innovate and improve their flagship product, but let it languish as they bring the lesser model up to it's level?

Let's see, to lower weight, they could make the trunk and fenders aluminum as they already with the hood... They could trim the chassis like Mazda does with the Miata... Heck, they could use lighter materials and a better design for the front subframe brace as we have previously discussed and maybe reinforce the suspension pickups as you would like. Maybe use lighter materials for the exhaust. I don't think even all those combined would push the price even a couple grand..

And do you honestly believe they couldn't make 325-350HP or so without major changes? A slightly different turbo has basically zero cost delta and a little remaping.

I do not know enough about the Rally car to speak to specific components, but maybe over time, if they have a better front suspension layout for it, it could be incorporated... FMIC??? Sequential tranny?

What is so bloody unreasonable about any of this that it apparently makes the car somehow untenable for Subaru in your opinion? Do you expect the 2014 STI to still have the same power train and basically the same front suspension as the 2004?

If so, the only thing they will be selling is Outbacks to skiers and old ladies like you.

2008-10-07, 12:27 PM	#48
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I was very clear in my requests, and you have a strange definition of mutually exclusive. Suspension and power have nothing to do with interior comfort & convenience. Are you claiming the 2007 Limited in Matt & Carrie's garage doesn't exist? Are you also saying Subaru should not continue to innovate and improve their flagship product, but let it languish as they bring the lesser model up to it's level? Let's see, to lower weight, they could make the trunk and fenders aluminum as they already with the hood... They could trim the chassis like Mazda does with the Miata... Heck, they could use lighter materials and a better design for the front subframe brace as we have previously discussed and maybe reinforce the suspension pickups as you would like. Maybe use lighter materials for the exhaust. I don't think even all those combined would push the price even a couple grand.. And do you honestly believe they couldn't make 325-350HP or so without major changes? A slightly different turbo has basically zero cost delta and a little remaping. I do not know enough about the Rally car to speak to specific components, but maybe over time, if they have a better front suspension layout for it, it could be incorporated... FMIC??? Sequential tranny? What is so bloody unreasonable about any of this that it apparently makes the car somehow untenable for Subaru in your opinion? Do you expect the 2014 STI to still have the same power train and basically the same front suspension as the 2004? If so, the only thing they will be selling is Outbacks to skiers and old ladies like you. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...