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Old 2008-12-05, 05:56 PM   #216
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Originally Posted by knucklesplitter View Post
Maybe those Ford engineers that ALM mentions - the ones bitching about the line workers' pay should take your advice. Sounds to me like they might be the ones thinking they "deserve" something.
I know at least two have since moved on to greener pastures..

..partially because Ford is a shit company that paid them less than UAW line workers.

Unions have served very useful purposes in our history, but they have also gotten incredibly greedy at times, particularly in the auto industry. Steadily giving factory workers fat raises until they're making $80k/yr running the same air wrench they were 20 years ago is fucking stupid. Paying that same factory worker a fat pension 30 years after he stops doing any work for the company is fucking stupid. I'm sorry, but it just is. I'm not going to get a pension from anyone working as an engineer, I'll be lucky to even collect social security when I "retire", not that I'll ever be able to actually retire. I pretty much figure I'm going to have to work until the blissful day that I finally die, to make ends meet. Am I bitter about it? You're goddamned right I am.

Now, that's not to say that the UAW is solely responsible for Detroit's woes, because it's clearly not. The management at these companies for the last couple of decades has been a fiasco at best, and the two have combined to put the entire industry in a screaming nosedive right into a filthy, truckstop quality toilet. And they deserve every second of the massive chocolate swirlie they're getting right now, because of the horrible decisions of everyone involved.

I will be FLAMING PISSED[tm] if my tax dollars are used to bail out these assclowns, especially if it's done without significantly restructuring all the deals they have with their unions.
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