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					Originally Posted by Dean   They became uncompetitive both from a product and a cost perspective. You can't compete when you are paying the guy bolting seats into a car $70K+ including benefits... | 
	
 How do Honda, Toyota, BMW, etc. do it producing cars in the US?  They pay their line workers, engineers, and admin. staff pretty damned well.  When I lived a few miles from the BMW plant in SC in the 90's they let the salaried people have company cars.  Michelin US line workers can make $50k++ along with good benefits including a pension and 4 weeks paid vacation after 10 years, and Michelin is pretty competitive (and most of their BFG/Uniroyal plants are unionized too).