Do you have a tactrix I could borrow? And I do trust your knowledge (dean and Scott in particular here, but really just about anyone on here), but you weren't proving to me why you were right, which made it hard for me to just believe you. Now it's getting somewhere, so thank you.
And John, I'm sorry we took your thread out back and bent it over a cardboard box and had our way with it
also Scott: that "you won't feel less than 20 hp" comment is more for people who drive cars that come with a lot of power stock. I've felt an increase with all my mods. My intake gave me more power up high (the cai, short ram did nothing), my headers and trackpipe gave me more everywhere, but especially down low, etc. So while it's nothing earth-shattering, it helps a little bit, and will help even more after the cams. I've heard aftermarket cams are really the only thing that warrants an aftermarket intake for NA