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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice
The world today has the "if it feels good, do it" and "don't tell me what I can and can't do" mentality.
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That's not new. As long as humans have had advanced language and "society" there have been those in power, and those who think they suck.
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Nothing is wrong with having a strong relationship with a person of the same sex. I have male friends that I love and would give my life for. It is natural to have love for a person of the same gender. It is unnatural to have sexual intercourse with them.
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What does "unnatural" mean?
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It all comes back to a persons actions. Everything you do in life has consequences. For those that believe the bible, homosexuality has serious consequences.
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Does it? Many churches believe otherwise.
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For those who don't believe the bible, take God out of the equation.
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Done.
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Medically speaking there are numerous risks involved with same gender sex. Not only that but, the human body is not designed for it.
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Those risks are identical to heterosexual sex... if you account for specific sex acts. The "not designed for it" line is bullshit too. There's a right way and a wrong way of doing anything you want to do to your body.
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I don't think I have ever told anyone how to live their life or imposed my own belief on them.
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You're quoting the Bible to support anti-homosexual views. So this statement is patently false- you are indeed telling people how to live their lives, because if they don't do it you're way you think they're going to hell.
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There are however, many that do.
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Also nothing new.
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Look at it from a different angle. Think back to when you were a kid. I am sure that at one time your dad told you not to play in the street. Did he say that because he wanted to suck all the fun out of your life? No, he probably said it to keep you safe from harm.
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Erroneous application of your analogy. It assumes that homosexuality is "bad" and "wrong."
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As children we don't always understand our parents rules and guidelines. As we grow older and mature it becomes clear that many of the things our parents did were for our benefit.
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Not sure what your point is here. Anybody that wants to modify your behavior is a "parent" and has your best interests at heart?
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As imperfect humans it is impossible to understand all of God's thoughts. We do however have his word that is filled with guidelines to help us live a happy fulfilling life. 2 Peter 3:9 tells us that God "does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance."
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You can't use the Bible as an argument when debating people who don't fully believe in the Bible as the the true Word of God.
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I could be a real pain in the butt when I was a kid. There were many times that I disobeyed my dad and he would discipline me. Some times I even got spanked for the crap I did. Did that mean my dad didn't love me? No, quite the opposite. My dad cared about me a great deal and wanted me to grow up to be a good man. This is the same as our relationship with our heavenly father. Hebrews 12:11 says "True, no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but grievous; yet afterward to those who have been trained by it it yields peaceable fruit, namely, righteousness."
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I still don't believe in the Bible the way you do, so your point is still invalid in this arena. As I don't believe that God is sending people to hell for crap like loving one person who happens to also have a penis, and I see no other negatives to me personally or society at large for their relationship, I therefore see absolutely no reason to discriminate against them.
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hows that for long winded.  |
Not particularly so, by the standards of debates on this forum.