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Dean · 2010-06-11, 07:26 AM

This discussion reminds me of Clarke's laws...

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is probably wrong.
2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

They are very useful to me in conversations like this.

Can we even imagine living in year zero much less BC from a knowledge and technology perspective? Again, I think we have to take the bible in context. What might have been perceived as miraculous or unknowable then might well be trivial or commonplace today. Their perception of time and distance were like a dog's compared to ours.

I do not find value in nitpicking scripture.

If the bible said the earth was flat because that was believed at the time, would that invalidate all else it contains?

We now know Newton's "Laws" while great for everyday use actually don't hold up under extreme conditions. Should we discount him and everything he did because of that? No.

Today we have String Theory, something we may never be able to detect or measure, but may well be the all encompassing wonderfulness for the physical world. For all we know, the universe is just god's tapestry made up of those strings.

I like Darwin's theory, but cannot really fathom time on the scale evolution takes. I talk about vision and how the human eye and the brain work while driving all the time, but cannot imagine the organism that first moved toward the light or motion that was it's origin and the mind boggling sequence to get from there to here, but I have faith that it happened.

Creationism may just be the best science of the day. And if it is the word of God, it is the best understanding of those words or ideas the people of the time had. They did not understand what we do today. How would a person of that period document something as simple as a 3D movie? A vision perceived through plastic glasses known as god's eyes?

Again, I think spending time debating the technical detail of ancient scripture is of far less value than the ideas and ideals in them.

2010-06-11, 07:26 AM	#102
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	This discussion reminds me of Clarke's laws... 1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is probably wrong. 2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. 3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. They are very useful to me in conversations like this. Can we even imagine living in year zero much less BC from a knowledge and technology perspective? Again, I think we have to take the bible in context. What might have been perceived as miraculous or unknowable then might well be trivial or commonplace today. Their perception of time and distance were like a dog's compared to ours. I do not find value in nitpicking scripture. If the bible said the earth was flat because that was believed at the time, would that invalidate all else it contains? We now know Newton's "Laws" while great for everyday use actually don't hold up under extreme conditions. Should we discount him and everything he did because of that? No. Today we have String Theory, something we may never be able to detect or measure, but may well be the all encompassing wonderfulness for the physical world. For all we know, the universe is just god's tapestry made up of those strings. I like Darwin's theory, but cannot really fathom time on the scale evolution takes. I talk about vision and how the human eye and the brain work while driving all the time, but cannot imagine the organism that first moved toward the light or motion that was it's origin and the mind boggling sequence to get from there to here, but I have faith that it happened. Creationism may just be the best science of the day. And if it is the word of God, it is the best understanding of those words or ideas the people of the time had. They did not understand what we do today. How would a person of that period document something as simple as a 3D movie? A vision perceived through plastic glasses known as god's eyes? Again, I think spending time debating the technical detail of ancient scripture is of far less value than the ideas and ideals in them. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...