Cody Nailed it!!!
labmonkey you are missing the fact that Subaru does have 2 factory backed rally efforts, and no road racing efforts.
You are also missing the fact that I'm saying what i would like to see in their new car where motorsports are a thought of in the design.
How the F is saying what i would Like to see in the new 2014 car whining? Subaru didn't change the double A arm to save money (it costs more) they did it to enlarge the trunk and passenger areas. which they did that to try and increase market share ..
In divorcing the WRX from the Impreza, you will get the grocery buyers & point A to B drivers buying Impreza, and the performance oriented buyers going WRX, the new WRX buyers won't be the type who care so much about trunk space / back seat leg room, that they will end up going with a Honda to fit in that extra sack of groceries.
So what exactly are you truly disagreeing with?
Do you Think someone looking at a WRX IS going to turn away because they lost 2 Cubic feet of trunk space?
do you think someone looking at the WRX will go Honda to give their 3rd and 4th passengers more leg room?
Really?
Obviously you seem to disagree strongly the 08-12 dual A Arm is weaker than the 93-07 macpherson . How many off road races with subarus have you been too? how many of your close friends have been to these races to notice which cars break and where?
Am i claiming to be a master of suspension geometry? NO! am i saying I've seen an increase in failure on parts in a car after a design change. YES.
So just who is talking with out any knowledge here? is it Really me? or is it you?
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Originally Posted by atomiclabmonkey
What the hell are you even talking about? If you think the suspension geometry/kinematics are responsible for fatigue failures under off road racing conditions you clearly don't know the first thing about suspension design in particular or machine design in general.
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Maybe have a quick look at my results to see if Maybe, just maybe i have some clue of what i'm talking about...
http://www.californiarallyseries.com...=article&id=56 CRS P-stock champion
http://www.californiarallyseries.com...v%208_2011.htm CRS GT champion
http://www.californiarallyseries.com...gsOct32012.htm CRS GT champion
http://www.rally-america.com/champ_s...hamp=5&yr=2010 rally america south west 2wd production champion
http://www.rally-america.com/champ_s...hamp=5&yr=2011 rally america south west open light
http://www.unitedstatesrallychampion...dingsfinal.pdf West coast champion
http://www.unitedstatesrallychampion...Cstandings.pdf 3rd for the nation in open (in a stock NA car)
How about you Enter and compete in a few off road races, in your subaru, then get back to me.
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to sum it up :
you want subaru to build an optimized passenger car with no thought for off road (and you hate me)
I want subaru to make Slight changes to help off road (and i'm starting to hate you)
I think everyone is clear, thanks