I would suggest then to really look for a ZR20. Its a few-year old model without a memory stick, but damn it still shoots really nice videos.
I should post some of the videos I made with
You can hook it directly to the VCR also and play from the Recorder.
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I also just noticed that some of the pics look differnet. There might be different sub-models of the ZR20.