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Old 2004-11-03, 11:56 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by MikeSTI
Scott - you way off on your rant. Its not North vs. South, it comes down to morals. Kerry wants partial birth abortion. Kerry wants to tax small business to death. Kerry wants to cut defence. Kerry wants gay marriage. Kerry wants to remove God from this country. Kerry is the biggest pupet I have ever seen run for president with views that change for everything, but a party he will obey. I voted for a persident not a party.

Democrates are going to need to understand that the rest of the world already views us as a Chistian country and the more we fall from the Christian values the worse we look to the rest of the world.

http://www.themessengersofhope.com/m.../view?id=93492

http://www.themessengersofhope.com/m...93539&id=93539


I voted for Clinton in both elections and do not vote the party but the person. If you watch these clips and keep an open mind you might see why people voted the way they did. these things can not be coved up in small towns but in the big cities the media contols the weak minded.
Ugh... this is exactly the argument I didn't want to get into. I certainly don't was to rehash the whole point by point Bush vs. Kerry crap, bottom line, they're both party driven idiots. My point was that there are two very different factions in the US, and that these factions can be geographically grouped along the same old North vs South lines from the Civil War.

You're right about the Christian thing though. The world does view us as a Christian country. The problem is that we are not a Christian country. The US was *founded* on religious freedom... that means we each have the right to believe what we want to believe. We have the right (and responsibility) to make moral decisions for ourselves. If you turn moral and/or religious issues into law, you violate one of the fundamental principles our country was founded on.

Moral and religious convictions are fine and dandy... and if you subscribe to a particular set of moral and religious convictions, feel free to live your life by those convictions. But don't try to push them on others. As soon as you attempt to make your belief set law, you undo the very fabric of the US Constitution. When religion invades politics you end up with Fundamentalist governments... that's what the Taliban was for example. People need to be free to make their own moral decisions... the consequences of their choices are between them and their maker.

What scares me is that much of our nation believes that their religious beliefs superceed those of the rest of the nation. That's exactly the type of thinking that ends in revolution.
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