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Old 2005-02-02, 03:42 PM   #47
Kevin M
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
Just so you know dean, you don't tune with gauges, you tune with datalogging. Gauges are a failsafe for when you aren't tuning.
Please either go back to sleep, or read the whole damn thread. We spent much of page 1 discussing data logging, so please bite me!
Dean, I don't understand your fascination with wanting to avoid new technology. I said you sound like a Utec user, not a DSM tuner (I was implying Austin was, tongue-in-cheek). Utec user love to espouse the virtues of road tuning for one reason- they don't own dynos. You keep attempting to discredit a dyno for being a "tool" when that's all ANYTHING is, including one's experience. Neither Scott nor myself is saying that road tuning is useless or pointless. But to say that you can accomplish everything you can with a dyno by roadtuning is a mistaken assumption. Dynos are superior tuning tool to road testing, although road testing can be useful as well in its own ways. I'll give you a shining example of why that is. Let's say you've got your shiny new streetTuner, your G-Tech, and your laptop out on whatever desolate, flat, long, straight strecth of road you think is your personal test track. On your 19th pull, you think you've got yuur map pretty set, just one or two more tweaks. So you make those tweaks, and do the next pull. Only on htis one, you get a slightly stronger headwind, and your G-Tech says you lost 4 peak horsepower, even though your changes were the "right" ones. So you go back to the old way, or even worse, change something different, and poof, the G-Tech says you're back to +1 above the previous pull. Nice repeatability, considering the dyno will NOT lie to you about the effect of a given change IF it's properly set up.
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