[Dean]

I agree with Nick... They are both good products...

I am so sick of the *cough* ECUTek preaching *cough*... And statements that you can't possibly tune a Subaru yourself without detonating your engine.

Each product has its own pros and cons.

AccessPort maps and the foundation maps for ST are created by a company with more hours tuning Subarus than probably anyone in the USA.

To say that tuner X with ECUTek software can do better/safer/with 1/2 the calories is quite presumptious.

I would also mention that the Cobb maps are done at a much similar altitude to ours.

I own both.

My ECUTek has a very specific purpose, at which it excells. If you want a single map, or two for specific purposes, it is a good option, but be prepared to drive to Sac. every time you make a Mod, or want something changed, and the corresponding cost of the dyno time.

With the AP, I can change between many maps with different purposes. With ST I hope to be able to make careful and small tweaks to those well tested base maps to fit my needs. And in the process, hope to learn something.

They are Apples and Oranges. Make your own choices based on your needs/wants.