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Old 2005-05-03, 09:14 PM   #25
sperry
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Originally Posted by Dean
I am so sick of the *cough* ECUTek preaching *cough*... And statements that you can't possibly tune a Subaru yourself without detonating your engine.
I never said ECUTek is better than Cobb's offerings. I said a dumbass on the street has a hopeless chance of tuning a car to the level that an experienced professional with the right tools can. Hell, when you get down to it, the AP and the ECUTek are exactly the same thing: the stock ECU.

The reason I tend to bag on the Street Tuner is because it's being sold as some magical tool that will somehow allow Joe Everybody to tune there car as long as they've got a place to do 4th gear pulls. Even the name, "Street Tuner" is disgusting in its implications. You can argue all you want that you can tweak your car with said product, but the bottom line is that it's not being sold as a tweaking tool, it's being sold as a tuning tool.... say it with me... street.... tuner. Not "closed course tweaker".

So, if and when you can go out and tune your car from the ground up, on the street, in a repeatable, safe, and legal manner with the Street Tuner software, then I'll stop recommending the ECUTek over the Street Tuner. I'm not exactly holding my breath.

So like you said, make your own decision based on your needs and wants, but don't go into it thinking that all it's gonna take is a little persistance and you can tune your car yourself. If you don't know what you're getting yourself into, you will damage your car, and if you do know what you're getting yourself into, you're probably already bringing your car to a professional.

Ugh... I'm starting to feel like Kevin in these debates!
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