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Old 2005-05-29, 10:07 PM   #74
Dean
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I can't speak to the Ferrodos, but I tend to run High performance street pads, and seldom have brake fade. Even on my stock brakes, I knew how far I could push them. I have not riden with you on a track recently, so don't know where you are in your learning, but, I have a guess as to what is happening....

I'll get into it more in the morning when I'm more awake, but what you are running into now is the resource wall. Your car only has so much to give, and you are asking it to do to much, just like pushing in a corner does to the tires.

Fast is easy. Stand on the pedal. Turning is pretty easy. Consistantly putting the car withing 4-6"s of where you want it, being smooth and managing your car's resources are the next steps and are harder.

A pasenger in your car should have little sensation of when your foot comes on and off the brakes as you enter and exit a braking zone. They will know you braked because of the pressure on the belts, and the deceleration, but the actual transition points will be hard to pinpoint.

You caused the brake fade, not your brakes, or the fluid, or the pads. I doubt there is a brake system, even F1 Carbon-carbons that cannot be overworked. Look at the WRC drivers. They have puny brakes compared to yours, yet they last 2 or more stages of some of the hardest driving imagineable. Heck, they can loose only tenths of seconds due to poor brake performance by managing what little they have left.

You may be surprised with how fast you go when you smooth things out...

Edit: Sorry if this sounded preachy. I'm tired. All I'm trying to say is that the fix may not to be the car, but to how you are driving it, or a combination of the two.
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