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Originally Posted by doubleurx
Ok so back to harnesses.
After all the concern over the roll over issue, I found myself as the only one without a harness at RFR last weekend. Did anyone ever clarify the issue of rollovers, or did you guys just decide it was worth the trade-off. After being thrown around in my car, hitting my helmet on the side roof, I think I will get them as well. Even with the seatbelt trick, I still found that the shoulder belt would loosen after the first lap. I can only imagine that the control over your car with harnesses is greatly improved since you are not supporting yourself so much with the steering wheel.
Also any input regarding the difference between the Schroth Ralleye 3 or 4? They are roughly the same price but mount differently to the back seat.
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The seatback trick works beter if it is actually a seat slide trick. When done properly, it should not come loose. I do this all the time in student cars, and continue to reccomend it.
The Ralleye 3s do work well in our cars, though I am considering getting some sort of teflon or plastic sleeve for my headrest supports as they are wearing on my harness which will need to be replaced shortly.
In the event of a rollover that does not provide enough force to cause the Schroth inner belt to "fail", there could be more of a risk than a 3 point system. Then again, a 3 point system with good seat bolsters is not going to allow you to move much either under those same conditions.
Everyone must make their own choices on safety.