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Originally Posted by sperry
The 2000 and 2001 WRC Rally cars both weighed 1,230kg. But the 2001 was a stiffer chassis.
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You work with what you got. I thought about an '01 instead of an '02, but the lack of a turbo made a bigger difference to me than the looks. Some of us aren't so vain that we would pass up 60hp.  |
It was a good choice on your part. It's not like you've replaced the entire drivetrain or anything.
One us drives an attractive car with 271hp stock and one an ugly abortion of an automobile with 227hp stock. So really I have 45 hp more AND a good looking car.
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Originally Posted by sperry
The GC and GD chassis have both won a single WRC Championship each (McRae in '95 was still Group-A, and that was when Toyota was DQ'd, so who knows if they'd really have won it). Plus when Solberg did it in '03, he did it with 4 wins over much more advanced competition than Burns' single win in '01. I see no evidence that the GC was more dominant than the GD, and I see no evidence that it was the introduction of the GD that put Citroen on top in '04+. IMO, the reason the GD started getting beat was because Seb Loeb is a better driver than Subaru's pilots, and because the Xsara and the 206/307's all got better. Going back to the GC chassis in '04 certainly wouldn't have suddenly bumped Subaru back to the top of the WRC standings.
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Uh, who is re-writing history now? Subaru won the manufacturer's title in 1995, 1996, 1997 with the GC. They have won the manufacturer's title exactly zero times with the GD. Last time I check 3 > 0.
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Originally Posted by sperry
Again, the 2000 and 2001 WRC Rally cars both weighed 1,230kg according to Subaru's own website. The 4-door GD is a stiffer chassis than the 2-door GC. Facts are facts. Feel free to make up your own "whys". I don't think the road-car weights mean much to Prodrive, considering they strip it down to nothing, then weld in a massive cage. Prodrive can make the car weigh pretty much whatever they want it to weigh, which I'm guessing is the 1,230kg WRC minimum. But I'll bet Prodrive was interested in a more rigid chassis which would allow them to spend less weight in the cage making it stiffer, thus moving weight lower in the form of ballast which lowers the CG of the car.
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The new Camry is stiffer too, is that so they can be more competitive in NASCAR? Each generation of car gets stiffer, that's the nature of automobiles. I'm sure Prodrive had say in the chassis design, they have had for some time now but to think that added chassis stiffness was somehow a concession to rallying is asinine.