[Dean]

Part of the real problem is the ridiculous notion of discretionary on non-discretionary budget.

You want real change it has to be on the "non-discretionary" side. The "discretionary" side is the minority.

Cut Military spending by 25% and fix medicare by 10% and I bet you could make a huge dent in the deficit if not eliminate it in 10-20 years without even discussing social security.

Let's let the Chinese police the world at their expense for a while and see what it does to their economy.