cars.com is the other good source. It is where most of the Newspaper classifieds end up. make sure you check out the value on KBB.com
You always want to start at or below the "trade-In" value. when negotiating. This is what is referred to as "wholesale" Kelly blue book. The private party and retail values are worth having as well.
If I'm serious, I will do those for each of the conditions, fair, good, excelent to know where I am barganing from, and to show if I am in a negotiation.
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