spring upgrade - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

02wrxdemon · 2004-12-23, 09:32 AM

Im thinkin about upgrading the already great subaru stock springs is this hard to do or is it pretty straight foward? most of the springs ive seen drop the car from 1.5 inches and up my question is i have 18 in wehhls any guess with that 1.5 in drop my tires will rub???

Rich

sti deede · 2004-12-23, 09:37 AM

Most of the people on the board changed there suspension to accomplish a specific purpose. What is your purpose for lowering the car? Perforance, Looks.

02wrxdemon · 2004-12-23, 09:46 AM

Hmmm ive never cared about looks its always been about function and handling..Im not one of those rice lids with the outta controm body kits and rear wings larger then a 747...I think all that crap is lame im just currious at to which spring is best rated for street and autocross ! I was sayn that all the preformance springs i have looked at drop the car some
and with me tuckin 18in i was currious if anyone here has done it and or has had any trouble with it

Rich

Nick Koan · 2004-12-23, 09:48 AM

MattR runs on STi pinks springs and 18" wheels for street usage. No rubbing.

But he doesn't use them for racing, so I'm wondering if they potentially rub when the car is pushed hard.

sti deede · 2004-12-23, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nKoan

MattR runs on STi pinks springs and 18" wheels for street usage. No rubbing.

But he doesn't use them for racing, so I'm wondering if they potentially rub when the car is pushed hard.

He had rubbing for a small period. I think that it was on the little plastic./rubber lip on the wheel well. Not sure how much the springs lowered his car though. As far as handling he seems to really like them.

MattR · 2004-12-23, 10:11 AM

Eric also runs the same wheels, 18x 8.5 and he was running the tanabe lowering springs...It looked hot, but didn;t handle quite as good as sti pinks.,

3 Best Springs...
1. Sti Pinks Not very low, but excellent handling
2. Prodrives little lower, improved handling
3. Eibach. lower, better handling.

Dean · 2004-12-23, 10:23 AM

Careful, this is an 02 bugeye, not an STI I beleive, so the dampers may not be up to the heavier springs. Lower is only better until you run out of suspension travel. Ask Scott what running on bump stops or tire on fender is like.

Almost everyone I know that wants handling and goes for springs eventually ends up replacing them with coilovers. I'd suggest saving up for a set of Teins or similar, or you can go autrageous like I did and get DMS 50s with road race springs.

MattR · 2004-12-23, 10:28 AM

Tyson runs Eibachs on his 02, not only is it lower, it rides and handles great, and he's had no negative issues as far as I know.

Dean · 2004-12-23, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR

Tyson runs Eibachs on his 02, not only is it lower, it rides and handles great, and he's had no negative issues as far as I know.

I knew that, I just wanted to make sure we were reccoemnding things for a WRX, not STI specific. I haven't actually researched if the STI dampers are stiffer than the WRX, but I would bet they are. You don't want to overpower the dampers or the car wil bounce al over the place.

MattR · 2004-12-23, 10:35 AM

It's actually pretty common to put an STI pink spring upgrade onto a WRX. They sell a speific spring for that application..
www.racecompengineering.com

JC · 2004-12-23, 12:20 PM

Struts are what will make the biggest difference. You are best off going with a strut and spring combo if you have the cash. Even KYB AGXs and Eibachs should make a world of difference for handling.

02wrxdemon · 2004-12-23, 12:25 PM

its all about $$$ havina a wife 2 yr old...morgage bmw payment...hot rod habbit....leaves the subie with upgrades on the cheep

JC · 2004-12-23, 12:30 PM

Eibachs or Prodrives then. I dunno what Tyson is doing with his old Eibachs, you might ask him.

tysonK · 2004-12-23, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC

Eibachs or Prodrives then. I dunno what Tyson is doing with his old Eibachs, you might ask him.

Pfft!

I'm selling those bad boys as soon as I can!

How long can you wait on the spring upgrade? I will putting a new suspension on my car and I will have complete take-offs with less then 27k on them. I'll give you a SECCS deal if you wait a couple months.

khail19 · 2004-12-24, 08:31 AM

I was lowered nearly 2" (Apex springs) with 18 inch wheels and 225/40 tires some time ago. I would rub the rear wheels on tight corners or with people in back. The ride was terrible being that low, so I switched to Prodrives and what an improvement. No more rubbing, better handling, and not such a slammed look. They will lower your car around an inch, maybe a touch more. I'm very pleased with them, and the Eibachs are supposedly very nice with a similar drop. I'm still waiting for my stock struts to give up so I can replace them with AGXs, my wife just won't let me spend that much money for something that doesn't NEED replacing. And I agree, we are far from rich.

2004-12-23, 09:32 AM	#1
02wrxdemon EJ18 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: reno Posts: 50	spring upgrade Im thinkin about upgrading the already great subaru stock springs is this hard to do or is it pretty straight foward? most of the springs ive seen drop the car from 1.5 inches and up my question is i have 18 in wehhls any guess with that 1.5 in drop my tires will rub??? Rich __________________ Blitx BOV AEM INTAKE TRUBO ox MAGNAFLOW CAT BACK

2004-12-23, 09:46 AM	#3
02wrxdemon EJ18 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: reno Posts: 50	Hmmm ive never cared about looks its always been about function and handling..Im not one of those rice lids with the outta controm body kits and rear wings larger then a 747...I think all that crap is lame im just currious at to which spring is best rated for street and autocross ! I was sayn that all the preformance springs i have looked at drop the car some and with me tuckin 18in i was currious if anyone here has done it and or has had any trouble with it Rich __________________ Blitx BOV AEM INTAKE TRUBO ox MAGNAFLOW CAT BACK

2004-12-23, 09:48 AM	#4
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	MattR runs on STi pinks springs and 18" wheels for street usage. No rubbing. But he doesn't use them for racing, so I'm wondering if they potentially rub when the car is pushed hard. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2004-12-23, 10:11 AM	#6
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Eric also runs the same wheels, 18x 8.5 and he was running the tanabe lowering springs...It looked hot, but didn;t handle quite as good as sti pinks., 3 Best Springs... 1. Sti Pinks Not very low, but excellent handling 2. Prodrives little lower, improved handling 3. Eibach. lower, better handling. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-12-23, 10:23 AM	#7
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Careful, this is an 02 bugeye, not an STI I beleive, so the dampers may not be up to the heavier springs. Lower is only better until you run out of suspension travel. Ask Scott what running on bump stops or tire on fender is like. Almost everyone I know that wants handling and goes for springs eventually ends up replacing them with coilovers. I'd suggest saving up for a set of Teins or similar, or you can go autrageous like I did and get DMS 50s with road race springs. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-12-23, 09:37 AM	#2
sti deede EJ205 Real Name: Deede Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,789 Car: '96 4runner Class: none.	Most of the people on the board changed there suspension to accomplish a specific purpose. What is your purpose for lowering the car? Perforance, Looks.

2004-12-23, 10:28 AM	#8
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Tyson runs Eibachs on his 02, not only is it lower, it rides and handles great, and he's had no negative issues as far as I know. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-12-23, 10:35 AM	#10
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	It's actually pretty common to put an STI pink spring upgrade onto a WRX. They sell a speific spring for that application.. www.racecompengineering.com __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-12-23, 12:20 PM	#11
JC Ask me about dubs! Real Name: JC Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 2,895 Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R	Struts are what will make the biggest difference. You are best off going with a strut and spring combo if you have the cash. Even KYB AGXs and Eibachs should make a world of difference for handling. __________________ Actually, I am a rocket scientist.

2004-12-23, 12:25 PM	#12
02wrxdemon EJ18 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: reno Posts: 50	its all about $$$ havina a wife 2 yr old...morgage bmw payment...hot rod habbit....leaves the subie with upgrades on the cheep __________________ Blitx BOV AEM INTAKE TRUBO ox MAGNAFLOW CAT BACK

2004-12-23, 12:30 PM	#13
JC Ask me about dubs! Real Name: JC Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 2,895 Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R	Eibachs or Prodrives then. I dunno what Tyson is doing with his old Eibachs, you might ask him. __________________ Actually, I am a rocket scientist.

2004-12-24, 08:31 AM	#15
khail19 EJ205 Real Name: Khail Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,769 Car: 2016 VW GTI Meets? We have meets?	I was lowered nearly 2" (Apex springs) with 18 inch wheels and 225/40 tires some time ago. I would rub the rear wheels on tight corners or with people in back. The ride was terrible being that low, so I switched to Prodrives and what an improvement. No more rubbing, better handling, and not such a slammed look. They will lower your car around an inch, maybe a touch more. I'm very pleased with them, and the Eibachs are supposedly very nice with a similar drop. I'm still waiting for my stock struts to give up so I can replace them with AGXs, my wife just won't let me spend that much money for something that doesn't NEED replacing. And I agree, we are far from rich.

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